Rallying Supporters Against Indies - Games

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647186]You want evidence? you all want evidence?! FINE ILL GIVE IT TO YOU! Infect ill show u. Look at all your games tht came out in the past 2 years. How many exceed 30 hours. Games r getting shorter and have less content due to the influese of indie games.[/QUOTE] That's opinion. Give us true evidence. Draw information from sources other than your misinformed self.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647186]You want evidence? you all want evidence?! FINE ILL GIVE IT TO YOU! Infect ill show u. Look at all your games tht came out in the past 2 years. How many exceed 30 hours. Games r getting shorter and have less content due to the influese of indie games.[/QUOTE] That isn't evidence, evidence needs to be backed up with pure fact And good spelling

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647186]You want evidence? you all want evidence?! FINE ILL GIVE IT TO YOU! Infect ill show u. Look at all your games tht came out in the past 2 years. How many exceed 30 hours. Games r getting shorter and have less content due to the influese of indie games.[/QUOTE] No, they are getting shorter and less content because publishers have come to realise that people are dumb and will pay for crap like that.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647186]You want evidence? you all want evidence?! FINE ILL GIVE IT TO YOU! Infect ill show u. Look at all your games tht came out in the past 2 years. How many exceed 30 hours. Games r getting shorter and have less content due to the influese of indie games.[/QUOTE] No. Games are getting shorter because of lazy, money grabbing developers. And, on the opposite end of the scale, some developers put effort into their game and end it before it turns monotonous. And the above.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647180]This isn't text messaging, typing speed is irrelevant if people can't understand what the fuck you are saying. 90% of people in this thread have actualy bothered to use the english language, rather than butcher it. You'll get a much better response from people if you type properly, well, not in this thread at least, but still, no excuse. Start shaping up with your spelling or I am going to assume you are a troll and take appropriate action.[/QUOTE] dude im trying to reply to everyone as fast as i can. YOU KNOW HOW HARD THIS IS?! listen if u dont have anything to say about the topic, bug someone else

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647199]No, they are getting shorter and less content because publishers have come to realise that people are dumb and will pay for crap like that.[/QUOTE] oh snap did you just call max payne crap damn baby you got some explaining to do

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647193]They are proving games can sell with less effort and time and money put in. Lower quality games.[/QUOTE] Pouring time/money into making something =/= low quality. Hell, most indie games takes fucking years to be done, often longer than studio games, want to know why less money is put in? Usually because they don't go with the fanciest graphics and oh yeah, the fact that one person is usually responsible for making the entire thing or small teams who don't, you know, get paid for their work until they finish making the game.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647209]dude im trying to reply to everyone as fast as i can. YOU KNOW HOW HARD THIS IS?! listen if u dont have anything to say about the topic, bug someone else[/QUOTE] It's only hard because you've got diddly-squat evidence behind your bullshit claims.

Listen this has gone long enough. Im not trying to force ideas into your heads, im trying to get the wrong ones out. Now, just sign this petition so we can get on with our live. [url]http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/deathtoindiegames[/url]

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647186]You want evidence? you all want evidence?! FINE ILL GIVE IT TO YOU! Infect ill show u. Look at all your games tht came out in the past 2 years. How many exceed 30 hours. Games r getting shorter and have less content due to the influese of indie games.[/QUOTE] I think you are mistaken indie games with piracy. Piracy is the main reason Devs are trying to shit out as many titles as possible. Working on one title for 4 years just isn't profitable.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647186]You want evidence? you all want evidence?! FINE ILL GIVE IT TO YOU! Infect ill show u. Look at all your games tht came out in the past 2 years. How many exceed 30 hours. Games r getting shorter and have less content due to the influese of indie games.[/QUOTE] [img]http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7622/nopeu.jpg[/img] *cough* 2007 but still.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647223]Listen this has gone long enough. Im not trying to force ideas into your heads, im trying to get the wrong ones out. Now, just sign this petition so we can get on with our live. [url]http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/deathtoindiegames[/url][/QUOTE] Back to square one. Good job.

The petition is called Death to Indie games You're acting as if this is a big cult showing up to pillage game developers

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647209]dude im trying to reply to everyone as fast as i can. YOU KNOW HOW HARD THIS IS?! listen if u dont have anything to say about the topic, bug someone else[/QUOTE] Not a good idea to tell me to bug someone else, I am a moderator afterall. And I have plenty of things to say about the topic. [QUOTE=thisispain;27647210]oh snap did you just call max payne crap damn baby you got some explaining to do[/QUOTE] Max Payne is 10 years old or thereabouts, hardly falls into the "past 2 years" category.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647223]Listen this has gone long enough. Im not trying to force ideas into your heads, im trying to get the wrong ones out. Now, just sign this petition so we can get on with our live. [url]http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/deathtoindiegames[/url][/QUOTE] No

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647193]They are proving games can sell with less effort and time and money put in. Lower quality games.[/QUOTE] No, they sell because they have a unique draw. They do [url=http://www.lexaloffle.com/voxatron.php]something innovative[/url], something cool and fun. It's not generic FPS #4224 which is what most of the industry is entrenched in.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647233] Max Payne is 10 years old or thereabouts, hardly falls into the "past 2 years" category.[/QUOTE] didn't see nothin about 2 years

I don't really care if a developer is indie or not, as long as the games are good, I am happy. However I really don't like when people think that indie = instantly good game.

[QUOTE=thisispain;27647245]didn't see nothin about 2 years[/QUOTE] Try reading the post i quoted, would help.

Anyway, let those big developers that only create crappy short games die, I won't miss them. It opens up marketspace for new developers that actually have good ideas. So in the end, Indie games will bring better games even if I use your half arsed arguments.

OP stopped posting, maybe his typing hand got stuck up his arse from digging so many "facts" from there

Well, in summary; OP makes bullshit claim, fails to supply evidence and then pussies out. Good show chaps.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647223]Listen this has gone long enough. Im not trying to force ideas into your heads, im trying to get the wrong ones out. Now, just sign this petition so we can get on with our live. [url]http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/deathtoindiegames[/url][/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but the only answer I can give you, is [I]no[/I]

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647233]Not a good idea to tell me to bug someone else, I am a moderator afterall. And I have plenty of things to say about the topic. Max Payne is 10 years old or thereabouts, hardly falls into the "past 2 years" category.[/QUOTE] but moderaters r ppl to, just coz u have a title does not mean i should treat u differently, im not holding back because u can remove me, im standing up for my ideas, like i said, if ur ideas are different to mine, that does not mean mine r stupid. I will spell and write how i like, if u think it will damage my points that is my problem. but i admit, i find it strange that other people can shoot me down or i can shoot them down but when i do to u, u pull out the moderater badge. Something i noticed.

For additional laughs, check this same thread he made on pcpowerplay.com [url]http://www.pcpowerplay.com.au/forums/thread/204923/Rallying-support-against-Indies/[/url] [QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647291]but moderaters r ppl to, just coz u have a title does not mean i should treat u differently, im not holding back because u can remove me, im standing up for my ideas, like i said, if ur ideas are different to mine, that does not mean mine r stupid. I will spell and write how i like, if u think it will damage my points that is my problem. but i admit, i find it strange that other people can shoot me down or i can shoot them down but when i do to u, u pull out the moderater badge. Something i noticed.[/QUOTE] I don't know about you, but I don't exactly casually tell my boss to fuck off if I don't want him around, mister defender of the galactic alliance.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647291]but moderaters r ppl to, just coz u have a title does not mean i should treat u differently, im not holding back because u can remove me, im standing up for my ideas, like i said, if ur ideas are different to mine, that does not mean mine r stupid. I will spell and write how i like, if u think it will damage my points that is my problem. but i admit, i find it strange that other people can shoot me down or i can shoot them down but when i do to u, u pull out the moderater badge. Something i noticed.[/QUOTE] I think that post gave me a severe case of eye cancer

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647291]but moderaters r ppl to, just coz u have a title does not mean i should treat u differently, im not holding back because u can remove me, im standing up for my ideas, like i said, if ur ideas are different to mine, [b]that does not mean mine r stupid.[/b] I will spell and write how i like, if u think it will damage my points that is my problem. but i admit, i find it strange that other people can shoot me down or i can shoot them down but when i do to u, u pull out the moderater badge. Something i noticed.[/QUOTE] Your idea is stupid because you can't support it.

Okay, let me do this differently. PROVE ME WRONG. If my idea is so shocking, then a signed petition will make no difference. I would learn my lessen and u guys hold forever bagging rights against me. Sign my petition and if it get nowhere, then i am clearly wrong. [url]http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/deathtoindiegames[/url]

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647309]Okay, let me do this differently. PROVE ME WRONG. If my idea is so shocking, then a signed petition will make no difference. I would learn my lessen and u guys hold forever bagging rights against me. Sign my petition and if it get nowhere, then i am clearly wrong. [url]http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/deathtoindiegames[/url][/QUOTE] We don't need to, online petitions don't get anywhere ever. Remember the dedi server petition for MW2?

[quote]Help me "Cleanse" these minds[/quote] :happyelf: