Rallying Supporters Against Indies - Games

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647716]But listen, you never warned me of anything, you simply pointed out my spelling multiple times and you never mentioned me being a troll. I felt that what you were saying was irrelevant, so i did literally tell you to bug off. I thought slight language like that was acceptable since you were active in this thread when things of equal offensive were said. In return you essentially told me that im messing with the wrong person and that you are a moderator so i should watch myself. In turn i thought that a moderator's duty was to make the forum a fine experience for all users, not to boast and take advantage of one's self moderator status. But why didn't you intervene when I countered others? And i don't understand what spelling has anything to do with being a troll. A foreigner may have atrocious spelling and grammar but that does not mean they are trying to stir up the community. As for me, I am not "trolling". This is what i truly believe. Ofcourse this is all from my point of view. If the message i interpreted from you was incorrect. Please make so clear. It isn't always easy to show your true intentions on the internet.[/QUOTE] Could you not find the door or something? You bid us farewell, be on your way.

i will admit it kind of seems retarded that people seek out and buy indie games just because one person made them but there are some really good ones out there

[QUOTE=BlindGed;27647745]You're looking for people to sign your petition against indie games on the forum of an indie studio. I'm sure that's what many people view as trolling.[/QUOTE] Not to say that he's ignoring most valid points here which is the first sign of a troll/ignorant asshole.

[QUOTE=geogzm;27647757]i will admit it kind of seems retarded that people seek out and buy indie games just because one person made them but there are some really good ones out there[/QUOTE] I agree, some indie games are quite fun. I must admit, i played Minecraft once or twice. But their success was 1 in 1000. Just because Minecraft was good does not mean all indie games are.

"I would like to add something. People make big companies like Activision look evil. People that say this are jealous tuna fishs that are to dumb to apply 4 a job." what the hell does that mean? edit: who the hell says that people are jealous tuna fishes?

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647772]I agree, some indie games are quite fun. I must admit, i played Minecraft once or twice. But their success was 1 in 1000. Just because Minecraft was good does not mean all indie games are.[/QUOTE] Nobody ever said that all indie games are good, just as some AAA titles are crap so are some indie titles.

As an indie developer. I must say. 1. Nice one posting on a forum about A INDIE GAME. 2. If it wasn't for indies, we would be bogged down by hundred dollar games. 3. :frog:

I still don`t understand how indie games impact anything.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647772]I agree, some indie games are quite fun. I must admit, i played Minecraft once or twice. But their success was 1 in 1000. Just because Minecraft was good does not mean all indie games are.[/QUOTE] Of course a lot of indie games aren't successful. But thats half of the challenge of creating an indie game. You have to find out what you did that wasn't so successful and fix that. You have to keep trying again and again in order to succeed.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO7XhaTGDYg&feature=related[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPCGJtLX6oU&feature=related[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BZNJOj3Sv0&feature=related[/media] See this shit? Thats an indie game. Compare that to high budget stuff like CoD and see the quality difference.

[QUOTE=Antary;27647797]I still don`t understand how indie games impact anything.[/QUOTE] They impact things positively. When AAA games focus on something (Action retarded vroom vroom tactikewl games), indies can do things differently and give us a larger choice. And if a certain type of games only offered by indies gets a high success, big dev studios will inevitable keep an eye on it, and try to copy it. Indie studios are win, and OP is retarded.

So much for leaving the thread.

[QUOTE=cyclocius;27647754]Could you not find the door or something? You bid us farewell, be on your way.[/QUOTE] I returned. Whats so complex about that. If i left and didn't say bye that would be rude.

And coming onto an indie studios forums and complaining that indie games need to removed like they're the incarnation of hell on Earth isn't rude?

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647852]I returned. Whats so complex about that. If i left and didn't say bye that would be rude.[/QUOTE] Leaving normally means you don't post in it again. Not stop viewing it.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647716]But listen, you never warned me of anything, you simply pointed out my spelling multiple times and you never mentioned me being a troll. I felt that what you were saying was irrelevant, so i did literally tell you to bug off. I thought slight language like that was acceptable since you were active in this thread when things of equal offensive were said. In return you essentially told me that im messing with the wrong person and that you are a moderator so i should watch myself. In turn i thought that a moderator's duty was to make the forum a fine experience for all users, not to boast and take advantage of one's self moderator status. But why didn't you intervene when I countered others? And i don't understand what spelling has anything to do with being a troll. A foreigner may have atrocious spelling and grammar but that does not mean they are trying to stir up the community. As for me, I am not "trolling". This is what i truly believe. Ofcourse this is all from my point of view. If the message i interpreted from you was incorrect. Please make so clear. It isn't always easy to show your true intentions on the internet.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647180]This isn't text messaging, typing speed is irrelevant if people can't understand what the fuck you are saying. 90% of people in this thread have actualy bothered to use the english language, rather than butcher it. You'll get a much better response from people if you type properly, well, not in this thread at least, but still, no excuse. [B]Start shaping up with your spelling or I am going to assume you are a troll and take appropriate action.[/B][/QUOTE] My previous posts were disagreeing with you, that one however, was explaining about your spelling and warning you to shape up with your spelling. I am perfectly capable of disagreeing with you and at the same time discharging my moderators duties, I was not boasting or taking advantage of my moderator status with my argument with you, I warned you. As for Me saying I'm a moderator and you should watch yourself, no, I was advising you that it's not exactly a good idea to tell a moderator to bug out in response to something i posted in regards to the quality of your posts. The Foreigner argument doesn't fly either because you already admitted that you disregarded spelling errors and shortened words for the sake of speed. Just to make it clear, me giving you a moderator warning has [B]nothing[/B] to do with me disagreeing with you, I've debated and argued with many people and not pulled the moderator card, because that isn't how i roll, i will pull it when peoples behaviour may result in me needing to moderate them in the future, even if i agreed with your point of view, i'd have still given you that warning.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647873]My previous posts were disagreeing with you, that one however, was explaining about your spelling and warning you to shape up with your spelling. I am perfectly capable of disagreeing with you and at the same time discharging my moderators duties, I was not boasting or taking advantage of my moderator status with my argument with you, I warned you. As for Me saying I'm a moderator and you should watch yourself, no, I was advising you that it's not exactly a good idea to tell a moderator to bug out in response to something i posted in regards to the quality of your posts. The Foreigner argument doesn't fly either because you already admitted that you disregarded spelling errors and shortened words for the sake of speed. Just to make it clear, me giving you a moderator warning has [B]nothing[/B] to do with me disagreeing with you, I've debated and argued with many people and not pulled the moderator card, because that isn't how i roll, i will pull it when peoples behaviour may result in me needing to moderate them in the future, even if i agreed with your point of view, i'd have still given you that warning.[/QUOTE] [img]http://static.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/heart.png[/img]

Somehow I imagine hearing a 12 year old screaming over XBL about how Minecraft's ruining his Blops experience. That said, judging by his recent joining and post history it seems that he won't accept opposing viewpoints. Yes, I'll take Minecraft over whatever-yearly-COD-game there is, since I can't get any fun from CoD anymore.

I could have just banned you before my warning, or even after it as you didn't seem to shape up, but I didn't, I gave you a chance to improve and look! In your post to me your spelling has gotten much better, maybe not your punctuation, but your spelling has which is more important than punctuation. You also need to form clear and cohesive arguments not just "it is because i say it is" or "prove me wrong" if you want to start a debate on Facepunch, it's generally a good idea to have facts and evidence backing it up.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647873]My previous posts were disagreeing with you, that one however, was explaining about your spelling and warning you to shape up with your spelling. I am perfectly capable of disagreeing with you and at the same time discharging my moderators duties, I was not boasting or taking advantage of my moderator status with my argument with you, I warned you. As for Me saying I'm a moderator and you should watch yourself, no, I was advising you that it's not exactly a good idea to tell a moderator to bug out in response to something i posted in regards to the quality of your posts. The Foreigner argument doesn't fly either because you already admitted that you disregarded spelling errors and shortened words for the sake of speed. Just to make it clear, me giving you a moderator warning has [B]nothing[/B] to do with me disagreeing with you, I've debated and argued with many people and not pulled the moderator card, because that isn't how i roll, i will pull it when peoples behaviour may result in me needing to moderate them in the future, even if i agreed with your point of view, i'd have still given you that warning.[/QUOTE] But why didn't you give me that warning when i was countering others? Why would you wait for me to counter you? And where in the rules does it say that spelling has to be 100%?

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647937]I could have just banned you before my warning, or even after it as you didn't seem to shape up, but I didn't, I gave you a chance to improve and look! In your post to me your spelling has gotten much better, maybe not your punctuation, but your spelling has which is more important than punctuation. You also need to form clear and cohesive arguments not just "it is because i say it is" or "prove me wrong" if you want to start a debate on Facepunch, it's generally a good idea to have facts and evidence backing it up.[/QUOTE] Rayven for president, I go vote.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27647937]I could have just banned you before my warning, or even after it as you didn't seem to shape up, but I didn't, I gave you a chance to improve and look! In your post to me your spelling has gotten much better, maybe not your punctuation, but your spelling has which is more important than punctuation. You also need to form clear and cohesive arguments not just "it is because i say it is" or "prove me wrong" if you want to start a debate on Facepunch, it's generally a good idea to have facts and evidence backing it up.[/QUOTE] But i don't wanna start a debate. I want to share my views not be descriminated.

You have all the time in the world to make your post, the forum isn't going anywhere anytime soon. And nobody will care if you make a small mistake or two. But when you post like you were doing earlier... [editline]25th January 2011[/editline] Its a little late to start a debate over this.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647966]But i don't wanna start a debate. I want to share my views not be descriminated.[/QUOTE] So you don't want anyone to have a differing opinion?

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647951]But why didn't you give me that warning when i was countering others? Why would you wait for me to counter you? And where in the rules does it say that spelling has to be 100%?[/QUOTE] There's no written-in-stone rules on Facepunch, it's common sense.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647951]But why didn't you give me that warning when i was countering others? Why would you wait for me to counter you? And where in the rules does it say that spelling has to be 100%?[/QUOTE] Respect, do you know it? There is no need for a rule, it's common sense. You write eith soft, beautiful, clean grammar, and we will understand you and respect you better. You write like a 12 years old ADD kid and we shun you for what you sound like.

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;27647980]There's no written-in-stone rules on Facepunch, it's common sense.[/QUOTE] So then how do you tell right and wrong? common sence can be a broad view. Do moderaters choose what and when to use random rules? [editline]25th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=kayOkay;27647982]Respect, do you know it? There is no need for a rule, it's common sense. You write eith soft, beautiful, clean grammar, and we will understand you and respect you better. You write like a 12 years old ADD kid and we shun you for what you sound like.[/QUOTE] Then shun me, but is it just to ban me?

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647951]But why didn't you give me that warning when i was countering others? Why would you wait for me to counter you? And where in the rules does it say that spelling has to be 100%?[/QUOTE] My warning was my 6th post, none of which you countered except for my fifth, where you shared your views on speed typing (which had nothing to do with the argument really) and my 6th post was the warning about your spelling. There are no rules about spelling, but it is common sense, especially when you want to share your views with other people using the english language [QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647966]But i don't wanna start a debate. I want to share my views not be descriminated.[/QUOTE] Then make a blog where people can't post back, otherwise it is going to turn into debate.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27647966]But i don't wanna start a debate. I want to share my views not be descriminated.[/QUOTE] "Gaiz, I want to state my opinion but I don't want anyone to disagree with me!"

[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;27647979]So you don't want anyone to have a differing opinion?[/QUOTE] if you had a view, idealy you would want yours to be shared with all, but i understand some are less... informed. I am trying to fix this.