Rallying Supporters Against Indies - Games

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648016]if you had a view, idealy you would want yours to be shared with all, but i understand some are less... informed. I am trying to fix this.[/QUOTE] Then give us some proof that what you say is true and people might give you SOME credibility.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648016]if you had a view, idealy you would want yours to be shared with all, but i understand some are less... informed. I am trying to fix this.[/QUOTE] Which goes back to " You also need to form clear and cohesive arguments not just "it is because i say it is" or "prove me wrong" if you want to start a debate on Facepunch, it's generally a good idea to have facts and evidence backing it up." You can't really say others views that disagree with you are less informed if you don't have any evidence to prove that your view is informed. Have you ever thought that maybe Indie games aren't causing studio games to become lesser quality, but that indie games are becoming more proliferated [B]because[/B] of the declining quality of studio games.

Can't believe your all still flaming around/trollin'

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648016]if you had a view, idealy you would want yours to be shared with all, but i understand some are less... informed. I am trying to fix this.[/QUOTE] You want to presuade others. Well it certanly failed to convince me. On that note, since it's a public form I have the right to express my disagreement.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27648009]My warning was my 6th post, none of which you countered except for my fifth, where you shared your views on speed typing (which had nothing to do with the argument really) and my 6th post was the warning about your spelling. There are no rules about spelling, but it is common sense, especially when you want to share your views with other people using the english language Then make a blog where people can't post back, otherwise it is going to turn into debate.[/QUOTE] This may not have anything to do with the arguament but neither does spelling. I am just suprised that poor spelling could lead to being banned. I havn't encountered this with any other forums. The rule in otheres is as long as it's english and not swearing then it is fine. Also, if there are no written rules, what is right and wrong. Like i stated common sence is a point of view. [editline]25th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=RayvenQ;27648027]Which goes back to " You also need to form clear and cohesive arguments not just "it is because i say it is" or "prove me wrong" if you want to start a debate on Facepunch, it's generally a good idea to have facts and evidence backing it up." You can't really say others views that disagree with you are less informed if you don't have any evidence to prove that your view is informed. Have you ever thought that maybe Indie games aren't causing studio games to become lesser quality, but that indie games are becoming more proliferated [B]because[/B] of the declining quality of studio games.[/QUOTE] I once thought like this. But over time my standing changed.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648063]This may not have anything to do with the arguament but neither does spelling. I am just suprised that poor spelling could lead to being banned. I havn't encountered this with any other forums. The rule in otheres is as long as it's english and not swearing then it is fine. Also, if there are no written rules, what is right and wrong. Like i stated common sence is a point of view. [editline]25th January 2011[/editline] I once thought like this. But over time my standing changed.[/QUOTE] Its just painful to read through terrible spelling and has been known to cause brain damage. In fact that very post has caused me post traumatic stress disorder.

Except with the degree of your misspelling, it isn't english. Be glad you weren't here a few years ago, otherwise you'd have not lasted five minutes. Back up your "informed" point of view with something other than personal opinion, preferably fact as to why it is an informed point of view. There, thats common sense and so is spelling properly in order to get your views across to people. Here's another piece of common sense: Listen to what a moderator is telling you, especially a moderator that has been on these forums since 2004 and was the 12th registered member, benefit from my experience.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27648089]Except with the degree of your misspelling, it isn't english. Be glad you weren't here a few years ago, otherwise you'd have not lasted five minutes. Back up your "informed" point of view with something other than personal opinion, preferably fact as to why it is an informed point of view. There, thats common sense and so is spelling properly in order to get your views across to people. Here's another piece of common sense: Listen to what a moderator is telling you, especially a moderator that has been on these forums since 2004 and was the 12th registered member, benefit from my experience.[/QUOTE] But as long as english speaking people can understand your writting the it is some form of English. I havn't yet recieved a post in this thread stating that someone can't understand me due to my writing. Yes i understand that it is easier to understand and recieve one's message if the writting is clear but you stated you would ban me if it didn't clear up?

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648119]But as long as english speaking people can understand your writting the it is some form of English. I havn't yet recieved a post in this thread stating that someone can't understand me due to my writing. Yes i understand that it is easier to understand and recieve one's message if the writting is clear but you stated you would ban me if it didn't clear up?[/QUOTE] so ur sying tht tish is pleseant 2 red? or evn xeptable

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648119]But as long as english speaking people can understand your writting the it is some form of English. I havn't yet recieved a post in this thread stating that someone can't understand me due to my writing. Yes i understand that it is easier to understand and recieve one's message if the writting is clear but you stated you would ban me if it didn't clear up?[/QUOTE] Unless it is spelled properly, it isn't english. Plus, as you mentioned foreigners, there are plenty on here and writing in clear, correct english helps those people understand too. Yes I did and instead of absorbing and following what i say, you just keep arguing against it.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648063]This may not have anything to do with the arguament but neither does spelling. I am just suprised that poor spelling could lead to being banned. I havn't encountered this with any other forums. The rule in otheres is as long as it's english and not swearing then it is fine. Also, if there are no written rules, what is right and wrong. Like i stated common sence is a point of view.[/QUOTE] Hah, you're lucky that this isn't SA, you would be already permad if you tried to post something like that there.

[QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;27648130]so ur sying tht tish is pleseant 2 red? or evn xeptable[/QUOTE] I'm not saying it's easy to read. I think it's the writters problem. If you can't read what one is sayng don't bother with the thread. I just find it strange that there is a clear lack of interest in my idea yet others seem to want me to clear my spelling.

Except if it isn't easy to read, it's also the readers problem, and if you are trying to get your view across to people for them to understand and agree with, you can see where the problem is when it's not easy to read, can't you. I'm trying to help you and turn you into a better poster, if you can't except that, I'll be seeing you in the refugee camp sometime in the future, because carry on this way and you are going to end up being banned, maybe by me in the future, maybe like someone else in the future.

-snipped for justice-

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648168]I'm not saying it's easy to read. I think it's the writters problem. If you can't read what one is sayng don't bother with the thread. I just find it strange that there is a clear lack of interest in my idea yet others seem to want me to clear my spelling.[/QUOTE] I think it's more strange that you are trying to support your bad spelling more than your argument.

Indie games won't kill gaming

Why did I read this? All it did was give me a headache...

I thing I suddenly got brain cancer from reading this thread.

Mainstream industry will kill the gaming with their expensive DLCs what barely add anything, same content being recycled and games in series being released every year. Indies are the people who actually experiment with different gaming genres and make something original. Fun fact, if it wouldnt be for frictionals penumbra and amnesia series survival horror genre would be butchered to hell by action titles like dead space.

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27648180]Except if it isn't easy to read, it's also the readers problem, and if you are trying to get your view across to people for them to understand and agree with, you can see where the problem is when it's not easy to read, can't you.[/QUOTE] But why does it have to be the readers problem? Like i said if someone cant properly read the post due to spelling then they could syply leave. What i'm saying does not have any life changing point you as an individual. If you can't read my post then nothing will change for you. It's not a life and death thing. Besides there is an obvious lack of support in this thread and it seems no matter what i say your opinion won't change so why bother going through my terrible writting? I'm not hurting anyone with my spelling.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648228]But why does it have to be the readers problem? Like i said if someone cant properly read the post due to spelling then they could syply leave. What i'm saying does not have any life changing point you as an individual. If you can't read my post then nothing will change for you. It's not a life and death thing. Besides there is an obvious lack of support in this thread and it seems no matter what i say your opinion won't change so why bother going through my terrible writting? [B]I'm not hurting anyone with my spelling.[/B][/QUOTE] You are. Your spelling is physically hurting me right now.

[QUOTE=Arvuti;27648227]Mainstream industry will kill the gaming with their expensive DLCs what barely add anything, same content being recycled and games in series being released every year. Indies are the people who actually experiment with different gaming genres and make something original. Fun fact, if it wouldnt be for frictionals penumbra and amnesia series survival horror genre would be butchered to hell by action titles like dead space.[/QUOTE] Mainstream industry will kill gaming? MAINSTREAM INDUSTRY IS GAMING! Through the Halo's the WoW's the CoD's, this is what defines us as gamers, whta seperates us and other industries. You don't see Spielberg taking intrest in a Braid movie. The mainstream industry represents gamming, is gamming.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648228]But why does it have to be the readers problem? Like i said if someone cant properly read the post due to spelling then they could syply leave. What i'm saying does not have any life changing point you as an individual. If you can't read my post then nothing will change for you. It's not a life and death thing. Besides there is an obvious lack of support in this thread and it seems no matter what i say your opinion won't change so why bother going through my terrible writting? I'm not hurting anyone with my spelling.[/QUOTE] But do you see anyone on this site that uses that terrible of English? Even the bilingual people are more coherent then you are, because they PRACTICE and TRY to spell correctly.

[QUOTE=Jack Trades;27648246]You are. Your spelling is physically hurting me right now.[/QUOTE] I could say the same for you. "I thing I suddenly got brain cancer from reading this thread." Thing? [editline]25th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Psycho_Shadow;27648255]But do you see anyone on this site that uses that terrible of English? Even the bilingual people are more coherent then you are, because they PRACTICE and TRY to spell correctly.[/QUOTE] But this in no way counters my arguament on spelling?

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648228]But why does it have to be the readers problem? Like i said if someone cant properly read the post due to spelling then they could syply leave. What i'm saying does not have any life changing point you as an individual. If you can't read my post then nothing will change for you. It's not a life and death thing. Besides there is an obvious lack of support in this thread and it seems no matter what i say your opinion won't change so why bother going through my terrible writting? I'm not hurting anyone with my spelling.[/QUOTE] [B]Moderator Warning Time[/B] Stop Arguing and start following what I say. If you lack that ability, your posting privileges will be revoked via a ban. This isn't your blog, if you post, you should give it the utmost chance of people understanding you by putting your point across in clear, correctly spelled english. You can't properly write posts, so maybe you should leave.

[QUOTE=Voltras DotGA;27648261]I could say the same for you. "I thing I suddenly got brain cancer from reading this thread." Thing?[/QUOTE] I believe it would be better for everyone, if you just went back to "gamming" WoW and CoD, instead of trying to start a mature discussion which you are, obviously, unable to sustain.

This is the longest time I've seen someone dance around the border of a ban. It's kind of obvious he's just aggregating everyone who (he knows will) have a differentiating opinion.

You do realize that High quality games start off from Indie companys. Without Indie companies high quality games wouldn't exist. Indie companies HAVE to start somewhere...

[QUOTE=RayvenQ;27648274][B]Moderator Warning Time[/B] Stop Arguing and start following what I say. If you lack that ability, your posting privileges will be revoked via a ban. This isn't your blog, if you post, you should give it the utmost chance of people understanding you by putting your point across in clear, correctly spelled english. You can't properly write posts, so maybe you should leave.[/QUOTE] Wait, i thought i already brought my spelling to a sufficient standard. You told me it had improved, why do you want to ban me when i already complied with your requests. What i'm going on about now is, is it just to ban one for one's spelling?

I wish I was goldmember already, that way when he finally gets banned I can watch him bitch in the RC