[QUOTE=dumbidiotretard;35865746]Honestly supermoose isn't doing anything wrong in the manner hes posting here. I knew it was inevitable for a dev or stixmaster to make an account but I pictured them getting real angry and being permad off the bat. So boy what a shocker.. maybe stixmaster will still try to get his 2 cents in here...[/QUOTE]
Oh yes, he sure is doing nicely. This is so fresh after witnessing all the enraged so-called artists back in DA appreciation thread.
I have some honest questions. Others might use the answer to troll you or whatever. I won't. Actually, I doubt you'll get trolled. You seem to be pretty reasonable.
How much did you invest into this?
Did your family invest?
Have you made any money back?
If you lost money, what happens with your investors?
[QUOTE=Supermoose76;35865748]Lol no. The video editor missed spelled that word. :/
[editline]7th May 2012[/editline]
We thought that is what we had to do. We also wanted to turn this into a career.[/QUOTE]
Not to sound offensive, but i'm going to assume that you're naive and don't know what you're doing. The important thing is learn from your mistakes and don't act like an asshole.
What exactly was going on at your office that took 2 years, Supermoose?
I'd like to say I bought this game and I am looking forward to playing it with a friend.
Take from that what you will.
[B]How much did you invest into this?[/B] I can't speak on this.
[B]Did your family invest?[/B] Yes
[B]Have you made any money back?[/B] I can't speak on this.
[B]If you lost money, what happens with your investors?[/B] I can't speak on this.
I'll try to answer as much as I can but there is some answers I can't speak on just because I'm not allowed to or I don't know the answer.
I've gotta ask.
any plans on finishing/releasing the tides of blood and underworld passage campaigns? as laughable as this game can be sometimes i'm honestly kinda having fun
[QUOTE=Supermoose76;35865367]We spoke with him and asked him to stop making posts. So hopefully that has stopped him or slowed him down.[/QUOTE]
I like you.
[QUOTE=Supermoose76;35865888][B]How much did you invest into this?[/B] I can't speak on this.
[B]Did your family invest?[/B] Yes
[B]Have you made any money back?[/B] I can't speak on this.
[B]If you lost money, what happens with your investors?[/B] I can't speak on this.
I'll try to answer as much as I can but there is some answers I can't speak on just because I'm not allowed to or I don't know the answer.[/QUOTE]
So you've lost a shitload of money then
[QUOTE=megafat;35865850]Not to sound offensive, but i'm going to assume that you're naive and don't know what you're doing. The important thing is learn from your mistakes and don't act like an asshole.[/QUOTE]
I can't say that I'm naive because I had a different opinion on the game than the other devs.
"you cant jess axe me to stop makun posts im gonna do sumethang about this"
Moose if you really are from the company just please, practice with mods before you make a whole game......
[QUOTE=Supermoose76;35865888][B]How much did you invest into this?[/B] I can't speak on this.
[B]Did your family invest?[/B] Yes
[B]Have you made any money back?[/B] I can't speak on this.
[B]If you lost money, what happens with your investors?[/B] I can't speak on this.
I'll try to answer as much as I can but there is some answers I can't speak on just because I'm not allowed to or I don't know the answer.[/QUOTE]
Fair enough. I didn't think you'd be able to give answers, but I hoped.
How about this, would you call this first foray into game development a success? What advice would you have for others who are developing games (self included, although mine is in very early prototyping - I have an engine. I have some concept art. I have a Design Document. That's about it).
[QUOTE=Supermoose76;35865916]I can't say that I'm naive because I had a different opinion on the game than the other devs.[/QUOTE]
What did the others think ?
Also out of curiosity, why weren't you on the photo where some of the team + validgaming posed together x)
[QUOTE=sambooo;35865913]So you've lost a shitload of money then[/QUOTE]
no m8. they turned Dark Artz into a billion dollar company just like Kevin Weeks dreamed of doing all those years ago. they did it
[QUOTE=Arvuti;35865938]What did the others think ?
Also out of curiosity, why weren't you on the photo where some of the team + validgaming posed together x)[/QUOTE]
Wait.. which one is he on the staff page?
[QUOTE=Lukasaurus;35866065]Wait.. which one is he on the staff page?[/QUOTE]
[img]http://www.darkartzentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/brant_weeks.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;35865943]no m8. they turned Dark Artz into a billion dollar company just like Kevin Weeks dreamed of doing all those [b]weeks[/b] ago. they did it[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mr_Razzums;35865943]no m8. they turned Dark Artz into a billion dollar company just like Kevin Weeks dreamed of doing all those years ago. they did it[/QUOTE]
They could have only invested $200 or so and still broke even
[QUOTE=sambooo;35865862]What exactly was going on at your office that took 2 years, Supermoose?[/QUOTE]
Learning new things and re-doing a lot of work. We are now in the process of re-doing it for the fourth time.
We aren't valve but we hope to become something someday. [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUmbVRuT4wo[/url]
[editline]7th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=whointhe;35865900]I've gotta ask.
any plans on finishing/releasing the tides of blood and underworld passage campaigns? as laughable as this game can be sometimes i'm honestly kinda having fun[/QUOTE]
Yes we have plans to. I really want those plans to make it!!
Whatever you guys do, do NOT post about Supermoose communicating with us on SPUF, if Stixmaster finds this we'll be treated to spelling errors of the fifth kind.
[QUOTE=bluesky;35865926]Moose if you really are from the company just please, practice with mods before you make a whole game......[/QUOTE]
It is a little to late for that but we are going to try to improve on what we have.
[editline]7th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Lukasaurus;35865931]Fair enough. I didn't think you'd be able to give answers, but I hoped.
How about this, would you call this first foray into game development a success? What advice would you have for others who are developing games (self included, although mine is in very early prototyping - I have an engine. I have some concept art. I have a Design Document. That's about it).[/QUOTE]
My best advice would be "Don't take anything personal" You may have something that you think is awesome but other people will say they don't like it. So keep in mind that you will have to re-do work. :)
[editline]7th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Arvuti;35865938]What did the others think ?
Also out of curiosity, why weren't you on the photo where some of the team + validgaming posed together x)[/QUOTE]
They like the game more than I did. I'm picky about the games I play.
I was not there that day for the game testing.
[QUOTE=AceOfDivine;35865635]They'd need to take some real classes or spend quite a few years practicing to get adequate level of knowledge.
Even if you have pro artists, if you have no designer to put all that together you get a poor game.
Where to place entities, gui design, overall feel of the game, all that needs a proper design.[/QUOTE]
lol Most of the people Valve's hired through the community has never taken a class for it.
Hell, I have, and I'm still not on the level of those people. It comes up to experience, not schooling.
[QUOTE=Arvuti;35866089][img]http://www.darkartzentertainment.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/brant_weeks.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Bed head and scruffy face :)
[editline]7th May 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;35866191]lol Most of the people Valve's hired through the community has never taken a class for it.
Hell, I have, and I'm still not on the level of those people. It comes up to experience, not schooling.[/QUOTE]
That is very true. There are people being hired onto Riot games with no schooling but they are good at what they do.
Why does your game still have code from L4D, and copies multiple things from it?
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I was not there that [b]day[/b] for the game testing.[/QUOTE]
Are you saying you only had one day of testing?
(and don't worry about the photo, or people making fun of appearances. The majority of people that did that in this thread got rated down. We care about the game, not about your photogenic bed head).
edit: Also, this is currently the best thread on facepunch - all thanks to you! (no sarcasm). The only thing that could make it better, in a different way, would be in Stixworld started spamming.
[QUOTE=Lukasaurus;35866282]Are you saying you only had one day of testing?
(and don't worry about the photo, or people making fun of appearances. The majority of people that did that in this thread got rated down. We care about the game, not about your photogenic bed head).[/QUOTE]
at least he had a fairly good photo of him, unlike some other people there :v:
[QUOTE=TheSporeGA;35866262]Why does your game still have code from L4D, and copies multiple things from it?[/QUOTE]
Because it was made off of L4D's engine. A rookie mistake, since when you start a mod all the content is still in there. Just not usually usable. It seems they just forgot to delete it.
They aren't stealing, it's a licensed Source game. Now granted, there's a lot of features from L4D that they just straight didn't improve on at all, but it's far from stealing.
[QUOTE=Lukasaurus;35866282]Are you saying you only had one day of testing?
(and don't worry about the photo, or people making fun of appearances. The majority of people that did that in this thread got rated down. We care about the game, not about your photogenic bed head).[/QUOTE]
One full day with Valid Gaming. We also had a lot more beta testers but they weren't that helpful.
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