Counter Strike : Global Offensive Beta - Games

[QUOTE=Godline;35427411]Still hate it when I jump across the double doors (mid) on Dust2 and some fucker headshots me with an Ak.[/QUOTE] Smoke.

[QUOTE=Godline;35426648]The game looks bulky like cod, does it still have that (1st person to spot the other more or less gets the kill) feel to it?[/QUOTE] It's all about maneuvering when you do get spotted too. Knowing when to keep going or hold back for a second. The correct timing between jumping out and firing at someone or waiting that extra 3 seconds for them to start coming around the corner and THEN jump out.. Stuff like that is what makes CS so great.

[QUOTE=Benji;35428289]It's all about maneuvering when you do get spotted too. Knowing when to keep going or hold back for a second. The correct timing between jumping out and firing at someone or waiting that extra 3 seconds for them to start coming around the corner and THEN jump out.. Stuff like that is what makes CS so great.[/QUOTE] CS has always been better than any of the CoD games.

[QUOTE=TomZa;35428522]CS has always been better than any of the CoD games.[/QUOTE] In multiplayer I'd agree, but CoD's single player is admitably (at least the older ones were) better than Condition Zero's or Deleted Scenes.

[QUOTE=t h e;35417399]So we had three pub-stompers all in a clan (or "guild" as they said) that were apparently pro from 1.6. They were really douchey, laughing at people when they killed them. We were playing fine until one of them begins crying over a faulty register (there was no fault, he's just a dumbass) We switch maps cause someone calls a vote, a person on my team before map change accidentally joins their team, they say 'wrong team', teamkill him, and then votekick him. Just how arrogant can people get?[/QUOTE] I ran into a team like this, they camped on Inferno in alleys and rooms with Mag-7's and kept laughing their asses off and eventually we just checked nothing but alleys and small rooms and lo and behold they all started losing. Before long they called us campers and bad at the game and left after 10 rounds of arguing that they weren't camping (and still were as they argued).

CS was never meant to be singleplayer in my opinion

[url]http://www.twitch.tv/copenhagengamescss[/url] Four 1.6 teams and four CS:S teams go against each other. SK Gaming already won Copenhagen Wolves and I think mousesports have won Xapso. Brackets: [url]http://slap.dk/live/r/25/bracket/ramme.php?file=soundblastercsgochallenge.htm[/url] There were a few very interesting and thrilling moments in the game, and the usage of the new grenades was nice. However it didn't feel so thrilling as a 1.6 match did.

[QUOTE=userman122;35428029]Smoke.[/QUOTE] Pre fire, wall banging etc.

[QUOTE=Godline;35429542]Pre fire, wall banging etc.[/QUOTE] Mhm. But the chances of killing you is low.

COD is a good game. It just isn't a good series. What I'm saying is, COD needs more innovation. It's still fun though. And I don't think it should be compared to CS tbh. CS is a tactical shooter, COD is more arcady and arena-ish.

I've got 2 dota 2 beta keys on hand and I'm looking for a CS:GO beta key

So apparently if you email Mary and are super nice and cool, she'll send you a beta key! Rev up those compliments gents, and DO NOT BEG!

CS: GO Finals are about to start - [url]http://www.twitch.tv/copenhagengamescss[/url] [url]http://slap.dk/live/r/25/bracket/ramme.php?file=soundblastercsgochallenge.htm[/url] SK Gaming - ESC, both are 1.6 teams and beat the tournament's CSS players kinda easily.

[QUOTE=ewitwins;35432149]So apparently if you email Mary and are super nice and cool, she'll send you a beta key! Rev up those compliments gents, and DO NOT BEG![/QUOTE] Who's Mary?

[QUOTE=ewitwins;35432149]So apparently if you email Mary and are super nice and cool, she'll send you a beta key! Rev up those compliments gents, and DO NOT BEG![/QUOTE] Could you link us to her email please? I cant find her on google...

Is there a way to turn off bulltracers?

[QUOTE=Kahgarak;35430876]COD is a good game. It just isn't a good series. What I'm saying is, COD needs more innovation. It's still fun though. And I don't think it should be compared to CS tbh. CS is a tactical shooter, COD is more arcady and arena-ish.[/QUOTE] IMO, Call of Duty sucks. I'm not hopping on the bandwagon here, it's just that the two main COD developers are too damn lazy to make a new engine. Of course I am kind of being hypocritical here in that Valve still uses Source all the way back from '05, but if you looked at a picture of Source back then and a picture of Source now you'd see that it has changed a lot, while comparing a picture of MW3 and Call of Duty 4 you won't see much of a difference. What I'm trying to say here is that Call of Duty is in essence the same game with new maps/guns/scenarios while with Valve you have more than just one series, all of which have new and innovative features with each sequel. However, I have a feeling COD would be way better if its community wasn't a piece of shit..

[QUOTE=X6ZioN6X;35433335]the two main COD developers are too damn lazy to make a new engine[/QUOTE] I think they lack that expertise. The devs are mainly people that know how to use an existing engine (quite well actually), not so much making their own.

I think that making engines is very costly and they don't want to spend that money doing something that they don't necessarily need to do

[QUOTE=X6ZioN6X;35433335]IMO, Call of Duty sucks. I'm not hopping on the bandwagon here, it's just that the two main COD developers are too damn lazy to make a new engine. Of course I am kind of being hypocritical here in that Valve still uses Source all the way back from '05, but if you looked at a picture of Source back then and a picture of Source now you'd see that it has changed a lot, while comparing a picture of MW3 and Call of Duty 4 you won't see much of a difference. What I'm trying to say here is that Call of Duty is in essence the same game with new maps/guns/scenarios while with Valve you have more than just one series, all of which have new and innovative features with each sequel. However, I have a feeling COD would be way better if its community wasn't a piece of shit..[/QUOTE] Don't just compare graphics, look at the gameplay mechanics of their engine compared to Source. Projectile weapons launch properly in their games when every Source projectile appears after a noticeable lag. Iron sight is an analogue thing just like your W key in COD, and then look at how iron sights worked in DOD:S, and scopes in other Source games are still on/off switches with input lag online. Also you don't get stopped+slowed dead in your tracks when you sprint into bad mapping boundries in COD. There's something very off about player acceleration in Source games. The throwing knife in MW2+shitty local hosting puts the L4D2 dedicated-server charger to shame, and the throwing knife can bounce + hits specific limbs + attaches to the body. Source can't depict a grenade throw fluidly [I]with[/I] dedicated servers... wtf is the deal? What ruins COD is builds and loadouts, their respawn system, and the matchmaking

I cant believe that last week that I happened to get into the dota 2 beta, I would've much prefered CS:GO

i have neither v:v:v

[QUOTE=arby26;35434776]Don't just compare graphics, look at the gameplay mechanics of their engine compared to Source. Projectile weapons launch properly in their games when every Source projectile appears after a noticeable lag. Iron sight is an analogue thing just like your W key in COD, and then look at how iron sights worked in DOD:S, and scopes in other Source games are still on/off switches with input lag online. Also you don't get stopped+slowed dead in your tracks when you sprint into bad mapping boundries in COD. There's something very off about player acceleration in Source games. The throwing knife in MW2+shitty local hosting puts the L4D2 dedicated-server charger to shame, and the throwing knife can bounce + hits specific limbs + attaches to the body. Source can't depict a grenade throw fluidly [I]with[/I] dedicated servers... wtf is the deal?[/QUOTE] The reason why you notice lag in Source games' projectiles is MOSTLY because of dedicated servers. I know that sounds contrary to why dedicated servers exist for online games, but lemme explain. CoD uses a host system, so most things are animated before the packets come back saying "yeah you just did that". This is called "client-side", where your machine will do something without permission from the host machine (server or another console). This has it's advantages and it's disadvantages. Advantage: Fluid animations, Disadvantage: If your connection is bad you'll do half the animation before being teleported back a few milliseconds. And if you look at a throwing knife from CoD and a grenade being thrown in CS:S or CS:GO in [I]~slow motion~[/I], you'll notice that they both are doing very wonky animations. Why? Because they don't need it to be that precise when it's flying through the air at the speed it's going, and it's too small to warrant putting that much detail in it. The trajectory and collision (for the most part) is what matters when it comes to that kind of stuff, and I'm pretty sure that's nearly perfect for both games. I say nearly perfect because sometimes in CS:GO a decoy grenade will get stuck in a bot's head and CoD gets this from time to time: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97sK3xShvcQ[/media]

Is it true they give you a guest pass every update? Friend just said this,not sure if its true.

[QUOTE=Raijin;35435462]The reason why you notice lag in Source games' projectiles is MOSTLY because of dedicated servers. I know that sounds contrary to why dedicated servers exist for online games, but lemme explain. CoD uses a host system, so most things are animated before the packets come back saying "yeah you just did that". This is called "client-side", where your machine will do something without permission from the host machine (server or another console). This has it's advantages and it's disadvantages. Advantage: Fluid animations, Disadvantage: If your connection is bad you'll do half the animation before being teleported back a few milliseconds. And if you look at a throwing knife from CoD and a grenade being thrown in CS:S or CS:GO in [I]~slow motion~[/I], you'll notice that they both are doing very wonky animations. Why? Because they don't need it to be that precise when it's flying through the air at the speed it's going, and it's too small to warrant putting that much detail in it. The trajectory and collision (for the most part) is what matters when it comes to that kind of stuff, and I'm pretty sure that's nearly perfect for both games. I say nearly perfect because sometimes in CS:GO a decoy grenade will get stuck in a bot's head and CoD gets this from time to time: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97sK3xShvcQ[/media][/QUOTE] What about COD4's grenades then?

What about them?

Throwing them after holding them/firing them isn't delayed online like projectile weapons or throwing held grenades in Source games, the grenade appears instantly from your viewpoint. Also the ironsights are just as responsive. Valve never gives scoping/aiming and projectile weapons the same instant response as WASD and jumping.

[QUOTE=arby26;35434776]Don't just compare graphics, look at the gameplay mechanics of their engine compared to Source. Projectile weapons launch properly in their games when every Source projectile appears after a noticeable lag. Iron sight is an analogue thing just like your W key in COD, and then look at how iron sights worked in DOD:S, and scopes in other Source games are still on/off switches with input lag online. Also you don't get stopped+slowed dead in your tracks when you sprint into bad mapping boundries in COD. There's something very off about player acceleration in Source games. The throwing knife in MW2+shitty local hosting puts the L4D2 dedicated-server charger to shame, and the throwing knife can bounce + hits specific limbs + attaches to the body. Source can't depict a grenade throw fluidly [I]with[/I] dedicated servers... wtf is the deal? What ruins COD is builds and loadouts, their respawn system, and the matchmaking[/QUOTE] Have you ever watched a killcam, or even a replay from blackops/mw3? When you watch one of the server-recorded demos, that's what the server/host is seeing. The only reason things seem so smooth is because of the absolutely [I]ridiculous[/I] amount of interpolation they use.

I tend not to notice lag in COD games because usually you barely even need to aim or compensate for headshots/recoil.

If you go back and play a client recorded source demo it will be similar to that of a COD playback, but if you take a server side demo recording (can be done with SourceTV or TF2's replays) it is much, MUCH different, because it is the server's view. I don't know where all of you people come from, but CS:S uses hitboxes to figure how much damage a hit should do, Not IF / where it hit! the thing that dictates collision / bullet hits, is infact: the collision model! This yellow grid! (its different on each model, this is Ct_gigin) [img]http://static.glitchvid.com/images_andthatshiz/fp_posts/cs_go_gc/css_hitvscollision.png[/img] Also, out of most games I think Source has some of the most accurate Collision models, and network setup in games today. You can read more here. [url]https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking[/url]