[QUOTE=Chickens!;37122381]Drow is the best pub carry[/QUOTE]
Viper or Right Clinkz.
Enchantress is pretty unf, her Impetus becomes effective as fuck when you get an Agh's
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Oops, meant to type "fun", but she is pretty UNF too.
Dat fawn ass
[QUOTE=Falcqn;37123322]Enchantress is pretty unf, her Impetus becomes effective as fuck when you get an Agh's
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Oops, meant to type "fun", but she is pretty UNF too.
Dat fawn ass[/QUOTE]
Fire impetus, double tap blink dagger.
[QUOTE=l l;37122402]A support that can become carry... who? The only hero I can think of off the top of my head would maybe be invoker.[/QUOTE]
Sven but he's melee.
[QUOTE=Chickens!;37123461]Fire impetus, double tap blink dagger.[/QUOTE]
wait, does that actually work?
theorycrafting crazy teams is pretty fun
for example: viper, axe, necrolyte, huskar, zeus. team "go below 50% hp, you die"
[QUOTE=EliteGuy;37120554]You do realize Brazilians aren't a race?[/QUOTE]
oh sorry i meant xenophobia which is obviously [I]much[/I] better :rolleyes:
[QUOTE=Chickens!;37123461]Fire impetus, double tap blink dagger.[/QUOTE]
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I stand fucking corrected.
Ouch, that is good.
[QUOTE=l l;37122402]A support that can become carry... who? The only hero I can think of off the top of my head would maybe be invoker.[/QUOTE]
venomancer can transition into a semi-okay carry if he gets ridiculously fed. any agility hero with a butterfly can be good really
holy fuck it works
~500 dmg (only impetus dmg) with lvl 3 ult and agha
enchantress is my new fav hero
[QUOTE=dual elites;37119185]It's less laggy for brazilians to play on the NA servers because the SA servers are all routed through NA anyway. Also please stop being racist, his nationality had nothing to do with how bad he was at the game.[/QUOTE]
Actually I like Brazilians sometimes, they can be pretty good when they queue together and are coordinated. the soloqueue BRs are where the shit hits the fan, when they speak very little English and don't have a designated translator or something.
[QUOTE=l l;37122402]A support that can become carry... who? The only hero I can think of off the top of my head would maybe be invoker.[/QUOTE]
Slardar
[QUOTE=Smashman;37124283]Slardar[/QUOTE]
Heehee, that's not a good example.
Silencer?
That was kind of discussed already
Outworld Destroyer is so fun, landing a good Sanity's Eclipse can absolutely wipe a whole team or at least easily give you a huge edge in a teamfight.
[QUOTE=soderholm13;37122777]Laning against keeper of the light as a melee carry is making me want to HGSDJKHFSDKFJASKLD SILENT GHOST HORSE HORDE OUT OF NOWHERE[/QUOTE] It'd be nice if his horses lost attack range during the night..
[IMG]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4748933/mace.jpg[/IMG]
You guys seen this?
Erm, i went down 10 pages. Its clear it wasnt posted in here.
[QUOTE=Gorm;37122366]
Amazing. Both of the shitty items are copied from mmos.
If you want to report it, here is the link:
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Okay, it was posted in emporium, my bad
[QUOTE=Prism;37123484]wait, does that actually work?[/QUOTE]
Better to Force Staff them while they run away.
[QUOTE=Prism;37123679]holy fuck it works
~500 dmg (only impetus dmg) with lvl 3 ult and agha
enchantress is my new fav hero[/QUOTE]
What if you force staffed and blinked away?
[QUOTE=Smashman;37124283]Slardar[/QUOTE]
Slardar at the most can anticarry/semi carry. Unless you're playing against bads, slardar won't win even against the weakest lategame carries
[QUOTE=titopei;37125236]Slardar at the most can anticarry/semi carry. Unless you're playing against bads, slardar won't win even against the weakest lategame carries[/QUOTE]
In my experience I have won several games as carry slardar, even against pretty "good" carries. Like anti-mage.
[QUOTE=titopei;37125236]Slardar at the most can anticarry/semi carry. Unless you're playing against bads, slardar won't win even against the weakest lategame carries[/QUOTE]
I think you have a really low opinion of Slardar.
[QUOTE=Prism;37125308]I think you have a really low opinion of Slardar.[/QUOTE]
I have around 30 games with slardar but the only way I could carry was if I got fed.
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[QUOTE=Prism;37125308]I think you have a really low opinion of Slardar.[/QUOTE]
Sureley enough I know what build you're talking about, the armlet bkb deso. I used to build him that way but I didn't really like it so I experimented with vanguard + ac and just ganking all around because of the great chasing and towerdiving to transition into a permabash semicarry.
Slardar is great carry, but he isn't hard-carry.
He can be devastating with farm, but won't be able to 1v5 teams like Void or Spectre.
He can actually chase Antimage pretty well, we once won a game because when fight happened, I used armor reduction on him, sprinted after him across the map. Since I had won him at 1v1 situation earlier due to lucky bashes he was afraid of me, so because I chased him he didn't kill my team, who then won because AM wasn't buttfucking them.
[QUOTE=Belivo;37125439]Slardar is great carry, but he isn't hard-carry.
He can be devastating with farm, but won't be able to 1v5 teams like Void or Spectre.
He can actually chase Antimage pretty well, we once won a game because when fight happened, I used armor reduction on him, sprinted after him across the map. Since I had won him at 1v1 situation earlier due to lucky bashes he was afraid of me, so because I chased him he didn't kill my team, who then won because AM wasn't buttfucking them.[/QUOTE]
I should have said "Slardar can't carry against certain carries." Antimage is pretty easy to beat, he's just one of the heroes that can easily snowball out of control. I was facing am as a naix and was able to beat him 1v1 even though he had manta and more farm than me. We lost though because he decided to pick off my team. If slardar doesn't have a blink he can probably be kited by viper/drow in teamfights if they are good. Obviously hard carries will outcarry him also. I haven't played slardar in a while so maybe I'm forgetting stuff but it just depends if you're able to permastun their carry while tanking the team damage. Personally I just like permastunning their carry while my team's carry can come in to ball out of control. I'll experiment with HotD Armlet because personally I don't like having armlet without a lifesteal.
[QUOTE=l l;37122402]A support that can become carry... who? The only hero I can think of off the top of my head would maybe be invoker.
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Sven can do that quite well.
Rotund'jere is often forced into being like a carry, but he has a lot of carry potential due to team presence with both heals, damage, heartstopper and YouDie ultimate.
Krobellus kinda has the same thing bout her. Farmed = Unstoppable, not farmed = can still support and make chaos with ultimate.
WR due to her versitality can light-carry after supporting early.
Omniknight is great support, but god damn, items on him can hurt. He has handy-dandy BKB + 1k armor + Pure damage + slow aura, that is big.
Vegenful Spirit is agility hero, so if her supporting early pays off big time she can pick up a Butterfly or something and wreck quite nicely.
Silencer, as he is so weak early he needs cheap and strong items. Later on he is beastly, but early he almost has to support.
Nature's Prophet can easily afford support items and wards if he wants to, while still getting Hand of Quota and quota'ing up in this bitch. + Support items on him become global heals, etc
Venomancer is same deal as Shendel, he can support early, and if it pays off with a lot of kills, Agha for starters, and then some big items can make him annoyance to fight. His DOT Damage is insane and if he survives and can somewhat stand up to enemies, he is likely to outlast them.
That would be it for now I think.
[QUOTE=Belivo;37125439]Slardar is great carry, but he isn't hard-carry.
He can be devastating with farm, but won't be able to 1v5 teams like Void or Spectre.
He can actually chase Antimage pretty well, we once won a game because when fight happened, I used armor reduction on him, sprinted after him across the map. Since I had won him at 1v1 situation earlier due to lucky bashes he was afraid of me, so because I chased him he didn't kill my team, who then won because AM wasn't buttfucking them.[/QUOTE]
With even remotely similar farm, not even void or spectre can 1v5. It's only through advantage that they can do this. Slap an AC/shivas and heart on anything when nobody else has that level of farm and they can handle stupid situations. (This actually happens fairly often with heroes like krob and spectre that build exceptionally tanky)
A slardar with a bkb, AC, and heart is one of the strongest right clicks in the game because he has an effective health pool in 7-8000 range and can easily permastun someone, or he can have fun amping and flossing his teeth with the supports. His skill set is not focused on 5v5 engagements though, and this is ultimately why 90% of these debates boil down to trivial nonsense. There is no supreme ultimate carry that is ideal in all situations. If there was, the game would have a serious flaw.
Slardar can carry unbelievably hard in some situations where he gets a large gold lead and can start 3 and 4 shotting supports, but that's the entire point. He's situational. So are spectre and void. Spectre may offer better 5v5 power, but that isn't the only thing that defines a carry. She has no stuns, and a limited snare.
[QUOTE=titopei;37125837]I should have said "Slardar can't carry against certain carries." Antimage is pretty easy to beat, he's just one of the heroes that can easily snowball out of control. I was facing am as a naix and was able to beat him 1v1 even though he had manta and more farm than me. We lost though because he decided to pick off my team. If slardar doesn't have a blink he can probably be kited by viper/drow in teamfights if they are good. Obviously hard carries will outcarry him also. I haven't played slardar in a while so maybe I'm forgetting stuff but it just depends if you're able to permastun their carry while tanking the team damage. Personally I just like permastunning their carry while my team's carry can come in to ball out of control. I'll experiment with HotD Armlet because personally I don't like having armlet without a lifesteal.[/QUOTE]
To be honest Slardar is a strength initiator, his skill set isnt that of a hard carry, but what he can accomplish with what he has is pretty impressive. The HotD into Satanic + armlet + AC build is pretty scarry, yeah.
[QUOTE=l l;37122402]A support that can become carry... who? The only hero I can think of off the top of my head would maybe be invoker.
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Sven, veno, omniknight, vengful spirit, necrolyte, enchantress.
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writing software to be released soon
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writing software to be released soon
for now it just checks their last few played characters, but later it will choose a ban based on a combination of factors[/QUOTE]
Hah, uselss against me. Over around 800 matches and 99% is random hero :v:
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