[QUOTE=titopei;37304493]I thought most of steam had beta keys by now[/QUOTE]
Then the Spectator Client that they released today would be absolutely pointless.
It was made almost specially to attract more people to Dota 2 and make more money from the Early Access bundle. (But I'm pretty sure since it essentially preloads the entire game it will help the Steam servers tremendously when the game gets released)
[QUOTE=Jojje;37304685]I thought removing his hair was done on purpose to make him look more like his Dota 1 look. I know the texture change was anyway.[/QUOTE]
I hope not. But from what I'm reading there are textures for his hair model the model just doesn't currently exist and will probably be added back in next update.
Man, am I a bad Void player or what?
Like, not bad as in "meh, 7-7 score? terribad!" like the elitists would call it but, actual TERRIBAD, that feeds purposedly.
I was in a game in which I went top with Pudge (apparently he couldn't mid due to his pc), and we got huskar and sand king for lane enemies.
We couldn't get near their creeps at all. As soon as we tried to even get near them, huskar started attacking. It almost felt like he didn't even lose health from the flaming buff.
I died twice before just leaving the lane completely and pudge died like 3 or 4 times. I ask for a gank, and DP comes from mid and actually takes them out with her nukes, at the cost of almost all her hp.
All of a sudden, our Dirge starts calling me a feeder, and talking shit on how I don't even have boots at 15mins. I tell him that my lane was absolute crap due to a huskar that just didn't let us farm at all, but thats a useless effort. He just keeps on rambling about how I am a feeder and noob because I'm 0-2 and no boots 15 mins in the game.
Pudge then starts being an idiot aswell and calls me a feeder along with him, even though he's 0-5.
Venomancer asks why I didn't ask for a gank, as if I was some kind of a mute bastard who didn't ask for a gank at all...
This shit goes on for the whole game, with dirge constantly saying the same shit, that I am a feeder and no boots and bla bla bla. By now, everything and anything I do is "noob shit". I tried to save veno from dragon knight by slowing him down, and he just calls me noob some more after I die. Pudge wont even talk because at this point, dirge wont shut up about him aswell, death prophet barely says anything, and I just laugh and try to figure out how would I basically solo lane against a huskar that blows the shit out of everything.
Near the end, I don't even give a crap and even start fucking with dirge, who by now has more deaths than me even, and just buy whatever I can.
He shut up about the boots, but now he was complaining that I had a cristalys and didn't have Mask.
Joke's on him though, I end up killing 5 of them like that while he just cries about how I'm a noob void for not having mask and having cristalys, while telling everyone to report me for feeding.
In the end, I find out that he is brazilian, and just call him pure garbage for not understanding anything that I say, neither in english, nor in brazilian.
Thing is, I don't know if I'm shit with void now. Not shit as in "10-10 shit", but actual "0-15 shit".
I couldn't lane AT ALL because huskar would just kill me increadibly fast along with pudge, not to mention sand king who could stun us
Pudge couldn't do SHIT other than LH some creeps and dying
No matter what I did, ulti'ing in any way would grant me a couple hundred "noob!" messages, no matter how much presence I tried to make in team fights I'd always be a noob
I ignored some items either due to no money at all or because it was a lost game for sure, even though if I went for the standard items like Mask, they would get me killed even easier, like how it did happen in the very end
I just don't know \:v:/ the guy expected me to kill huskar and sand king and get core items in 20 mins alone, in what might have been the shittiest lane ever
Void has to be baby sat in his lane. He needs a support to be with him and he needs to be in the easy lane. He's just not very strong early game and laning with a hero like pudge is just going to lead to an absolute trainwreck against almost any lane combo. You were double melee against a melee and a ranged who could easily harass and kill you. Void needs a ranged support who will just let him last hit and farm up and possibly play aggressive if the opportunity for a kill shows itself.
I don't think it's really your fault but as void you shouldn't lane with heroes like pudge and you need to make sure you set up the right lane.
Sniper is my new favorite carry. I was playing with some bloodseeker, i was harrassing the fucking shit out of him and since he thought he could get away with no regen and having blood bath, if he came near me for more than 5 secs he was down to 100 hp. I was lvl 6 at 4 mins and had 60 cs at 10 mins, and i got about 5 kills on him. He kept saying "what an annoying fuck"
Later, when i had all my stompy items, (daedalus, shadow blade, maelstrom, etc) he was feasting on the rest of my team, and whenever something didn't work out for our team he would say "mad?" then their butthurt team with all negative kds except bloodseeker would join in. The only time i communicated with them was when I got a rampage, i simply replied with "mad"
They burst into rage and started reporting our team and shit. But at the end of the game, i had daedalus, 3 rapiers and treads and was doing 2.5k-3k crits. Combined with eye of skadi anything i attacked once was confirmed dead.
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guidelines for syllabear
double midas for 700 gpm or lose immediately
[QUOTE=xpod1;37305049][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/exta2.png[/IMG]
guidelines for syllabear
double midas for 700 gpm or lose immediately[/QUOTE]
Double Midas is retarded. Congrats, you filled all your item slots!
Too bad your team is fighting off megacreeps.
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;37305095]Double Midas is retarded. Congrats, you filled all your item slots!
Too bad your team is fighting off megacreeps.[/QUOTE]
It's not as cost effective as 1 midas, because midas on bear doesn't give experience, just gold.
Still, Midas pays for itself after 10 uses, i.e. 1000 seconds i.e. 16 minutes 40 seconds. (assuming perfect timings!)
So if you get both midases semi-early (pre-15, max 20) then by late game you will have free Attack Speed item on Druid and Bear(bear loves attack speed), bonus experience and god forbid if enemy team has creep-reliant hero at this stage, but still you get 2x removal.
For fun, somewhat valiable.
For more serious use (just please don't confuse this with "competetive"), 1 Midas before 8 minutes. Use it on Druid, when it's on CD keep it on bear for AS. If you get lucky first blood + kill or two more, second midas is fine if enemy team is carry-intensive and you are not afraid of serious roaming and ganks. Let's say 3 carries, 1 of which is a real hard carry (Spectre, Phantom Lancer, Silencer if he's lucky) is your best shot.
[QUOTE=Murdoco;37304921]Void has to be baby sat in his lane. He needs a support to be with him and he needs to be in the easy lane. He's just not very strong early game and laning with a hero like pudge is just going to lead to an absolute trainwreck against almost any lane combo. You were double melee against a melee and a ranged who could easily harass and kill you. Void needs a ranged support who will just let him last hit and farm up and possibly play aggressive if the opportunity for a kill shows itself.
I don't think it's really your fault but as void you shouldn't lane with heroes like pudge and you need to make sure you set up the right lane.[/QUOTE]
That, thank you. I knew I wasn't awful.
It was pretty bad. I told him to go mid in hopes of getting prophet or venomancer or even that scumbag dirge with his strength saps, but I got a pudge who I think never used hook once.
Like you said, it was the worst lane I could get, and it couldn't have been my fault at all. Still, the dirge just couldn't get it through his thick head.
Speaking of Mask... Are you guys sure its better to have a hyperstone instead of Mask? Its a somewhat noticeable difference between the speed of each. I asked my friend who's a die hard veteran from dota if hyperstone really was better and he agree'd with you guys, but, I don't know, still seems too slow...
On the other hand, no increased damage incoming.
[QUOTE=dass;37305230]That, thank you. I knew I wasn't awful.
It was pretty bad. I told him to go mid in hopes of getting prophet or venomancer or even that scumbag dirge with his strength saps, but I got a pudge who I think never used hook once.
Like you said, it was the worst lane I could get, and it couldn't have been my fault at all. Still, the dirge just couldn't get it through his thick head.
Speaking of Mask... Are you guys sure its better to have a hyperstone instead of Mask? Its a somewhat noticeable difference between the speed of each. I asked my friend who's a die hard veteran from dota if hyperstone really was better and he agree'd with you guys, but, I don't know, still seems too slow...
On the other hand, no increased damage incoming.[/QUOTE]
The lack of damage increase on hyperstone alone makes it better if you just get MoM for attack speed. Build it in to an AC or Mjolnir, depending on your hero.
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The only reason MoM is usually core on Void is because he can use it in his chronosphere, where he's a lot less likely to be taking damage anyways.
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;37305095]Double Midas is retarded. Congrats, you filled all your item slots!
Too bad your team is fighting off megacreeps.[/QUOTE]
I think he was joking..
There's so much potential for me to have fun as Omniknight, but his cast times ruin the whole experience.
[QUOTE=Rats808;37305397]The lack of damage increase on hyperstone alone makes it better if you just get MoM for attack speed. Build it in to an AC or Mjolnir, depending on your hero.
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The only reason MoM is usually core on Void is because he can use it in his chronosphere, where he's a lot less likely to be taking damage anyways.[/QUOTE]
I've noticed that you MUST know that you can get the kill, because if you don't, chronosphere will end and you'll most likely get attacked by whoever is still alive or even people that might have not been inside the sphere, and you end up dead.
It wasn't only for the speed. I think you could tank people with it aswell, along with time lock. Fast attack speed = more chances to stun and do bonus damage and enough lifesteal to be a mace wielding vampire, but at a huge risk, as said.
[QUOTE=RagerTrader;37305095]Double Midas is retarded. Congrats, you filled all your item slots!
Too bad your team is fighting off megacreeps.[/QUOTE]
whoops forgot to get the part where he won
in 35 minutes
without losing a single tier 2
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Du6ax.png[/IMG]
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[QUOTE=Rarara;37305468]I think he was joking..[/QUOTE]
do you think this is a joke
[QUOTE=xpod1;37305723]whoops forgot to get the part where he won
in 35 minutes
without losing a single tier 2
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Du6ax.png[/IMG]
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do you think this is a joke[/QUOTE]
I thought it was because you worded it
"double midas for 700 gpm or lose immediately"
Similiar to how people say "700 gpm or instant loss" Natures Prophet.
And double midas, as far as I know, is generally not the favoured strategy.
performing a perfect chaos dunk in the most satisfying act in dota 2
[QUOTE=dual elites;37305797]performing a perfect chaos dunk in the most satisfying act in dota 2[/QUOTE]
I once played against a PL, Naga, and Dark Seer as Earthshaker.
The Dunkiest of all dunks was dunked.
I just played lich. I rolled almost hard support, making sure there were always wards, later on making sure the enemy DIDN'T have wards, helping in ganks, and healing my team (via pots and mech). We ended up winning.
Fuck yeah support.
While we are now discussing sylla and midas. Would it possible to transfer the bear's midas to sylla while it's off cooldown, even if his "own" midas is on cooldown? My first thought is that it would get the same cooldown as the one he has. But what if he gives his own to the bear first than get the bear's, would that work?
[QUOTE=Amaurus;37306063]I just played lich. I rolled almost hard support, making sure there were always wards, later on making sure the enemy DIDN'T have wards, helping in ganks, and healing my team (via pots and mech). We ended up winning.
Fuck yeah support.[/QUOTE]
I was Ursa, we had Rhasta.
Lanes did good, mostly. Things looked great, Rhasta got me some kills top.
I notice we have no courier, I get it.
I notice is far into the game and it's not flying. I upgrade it.
I notice no wards, ask Rhasta - "We don't need mek at this stage and I need Agha/Refresher for 2x wards to win" - I get some wards.
I deward a bit.
We lose.
Sad Ursa.
How the fuck do I play spirit breaker? Holy shit that hero is weeak as fuck! Charge of Darkness doesn't do and damage? WTF Icefrog
goddamn i hate bad games
not like "ok we lost no big deal"-kind of games, this was that kind of game that just makes you go "why in the world would you even do this?"
bh maxing crit and almost ignoring invis and vlads first against a superagressive team
then i get this silencer that wants to carry, a storm that wants to jungle (works, but requires a courier (thanks silencer!!))
[QUOTE=xpod1;37305723]whoops forgot to get the part where he won
in 35 minutes
without losing a single tier 2
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Du6ax.png[/IMG]
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do you think this is a joke[/QUOTE]
it worked once it must be viable
[QUOTE=Haxxer;37306322]goddamn i hate bad games
not like "ok we lost no big deal"-kind of games, this was that kind of game that just makes you go "why in the world would you even do this?"
bh maxing crit and almost ignoring invis and vlads first against a superagressive team
then i get this silencer that wants to carry, a storm that wants to jungle (works, but requires a courier (thanks silencer!!))[/QUOTE]
Er... Silencer can be a carry.
But he shouldn't be stealing last hits from other harder carries.
[QUOTE=ChocoCoach;37306228]How the fuck do I play spirit breaker? Holy shit that hero is weeak as fuck! Charge of Darkness doesn't do and damage? WTF Icefrog[/QUOTE]
You need some people to coordinate the ganks, go power treads, drums, dominator helm, arlmet, hyperstone into AC.
Hes a neat ganker but he requires the safe lane and some early levels and farm to do well. Also its hard to play against people with good map awareness.
Double midas works? Bear and hero don't share the same cooldown?
[QUOTE=titopei;37306488]Double midas works? Bear and hero don't share the same cooldown?[/QUOTE]
No they don't so yeah. Dual midas works.
Ah, right, this has been bugging me.
Double-midas on Sylla is a glitch, at least Wiki states it as such for now. Might change, some things make it to Dota 2 like that.
[QUOTE=Oicani Gonzales;37306673]Isn't silencer supposed to be a carry though?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;37306376]Er... Silencer can be a carry.
But he shouldn't be stealing last hits from other harder carries.[/QUOTE]
sure, spirit breaker [B]can[/B] carry too, but that doesn't make him into a carry
this guy lastpicked silencer and literally went into my solo long lane, stole exp and last hits and then went to the short lane and did the same thing.
[QUOTE=dual elites;37305797]performing a perfect chaos dunk in the most satisfying act in dota 2[/QUOTE]
Reminded me of this, which is relatively old. Still horrifying to watch.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcr8CXWEMrY[/media]
[QUOTE=Fancy Parrot;37293930]sylla has 12 item slots total, just letting you know[/QUOTE]
Sylla's abilities do not scale as well as something like a voids. His bear is on a long as fuck cooldown. In the extreme late stages that 95% of games never even approach let alone get to, the bear simply does not survive long enough to be considered reliable, or useful. When you have heroes critting for 700-1000 damage, it just evaporates. In situations like that, druid falls of considerably because he isn't reliable, and lacks many of the conventional ultra hard carry skill types.
The fact that he has 12 item slots doesn't make him a carry. He's a carry, but not because of that.
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