Am I the only one that thinks Half-Life 2 is a little overrated? - Games

[QUOTE=aydin690;27962354]It was one of the greatest games when it came out back in 2004 but to be honest, it hasn't aged well.[/QUOTE] I really think all they'd have to do to keep it interesting is change the gunplay some, lower the amount of ammo for higher end weapons, and change the way enemies respond to damage. Then I'd be playing that shit all day every day. The reason the AR2 was so much more fun to use was because it felt "beefier". The sounds and the handling made it my favorite gun in the game. Gun as in it fires loaded projectiles. Gravity gun is still my favorite of all the weapons.

[QUOTE=Henry Townshend;27962380]I loved Half-Life 1, but I think Half-Life 2 is a little overrated. It's so different from the original.[/QUOTE] That is one of the things I liked; Half-Life 2 didn't try to be its predecessor. Most sequels are essentially the same game, with some graphical improvements and new levels. Half-Life 2, on the other hand, goes in different directions, and focusses on different things.

I thought HL2 was a mediocre game and HL1 was VASTLY superior.

I found Half Life 2's game play really weak. The most fun parts I had playing Half Life 2 was when there were the set pieces such as the helicopter chase, or the first time you got to test the bugbait on Combine bunkers. The shooting was more like "Ugh more shooting". Half Life 1 had really meaty chunky units and awesome gameplay. Facing off the marines was an "Oh shit" moment when I first fought them. The marines were beefy as hell, they threw grenades, and would lay grenades where they were and dash away if you were running at them. Also the marines ran around everywhere. In Half Life 2, the Combine were a lot more static and unfluid. The Combine were extraordinarily weak, they had predictable movement, and seemed dullish. Fighting against the marines was like fighting the soldiers in F.E.A.R, fighting Combine was like fighting Doom enemies.

ooooo i put a barrel in an elevator it requires so much thinking ooooooo i placed a battery in a scripted socket i'm a genius i must have a phd or something

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27962424]Most sequels are essentially the same game, with some graphical improvements and new levels. Half-Life 2, on the other hand, goes in different directions, and focusses on different things.[/QUOTE] That's cause if you deviate then a lot of people rag on your game. Look at Deus Ex: HR, DA2, ME2, Fallout and the myriad other sequels that people complain about not being "true to the original." Then people start to complain that all the games are the same.

[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;27961528]Didn't know who to quote so I quoted both of you. Which that is true to an extent, Halo has more of a modern feel to it don't you think? HL2 has non auto regenerating health, lets you have all the weapons in the game at one time, ect. Halo, health regen, more prominent in the later ones of course. two weapons at a time, ect.[/QUOTE] Just want to point out that Reach had limited health regen (think Just Cause 2) and ODST didn't have any regen at all.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27962757]ooooo i put a barrel in an elevator it requires so much thinking ooooooo i placed a battery in a scripted socket i'm a genius i must have a phd or something[/QUOTE] The sheer wit and cleverness of your comments is absolutely overbearing.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;27961375]And my problem arguing with you is that you make an awful lot of assumptions. Yes, Half-Life 2 is a shooter; I never claimed otherwise. I simply gave reasons as to why the game has more variety than Halo. Side note: attempting to insult the people you're arguing against is not a great way to try and win a fight. I think Valve is great. I also think Modern Warfare, Halo, Battlefield, Gears of War and Unreal Tournament are great. There is no valid reason that should be a point against me.[/QUOTE] I apologize if I offended you, but I still don't think you've substantiated your claims. All you and ChosenOne have come up with thus far is that it's more varied because it 'makes you think more.' Personally, I do a lot more thinking in a game of Halo where I'm forced to consider attack from all angles, whereas I spent most of Half-Life 2 burst-firing the SMG until everything in front of me was dead. Of course, it's all personal taste, and you can't quantify 'variety' in gameplay. The problem is that you (and ChosenOne) seem to think that it is indeed something that you can measure and say, "Yes, Half-Life 2 is definitely superior to other games, can't argue with that."

It's a really, really fun game, but simply for the singleplayer, it would never be only number one, even counting the rest of the episodes. What makes it amazing for me is the open-source engine, the community, and Garry's mod. It's just so moddable, and everyone loves that. After playing it, you can mess around with the engine. Those combine you worked hard to destroy and cowered in fear with low health from are now your playthings. Make and do whatever you want.

[QUOTE=postmanX3;27962887]Just want to point out that Reach had limited health regen (think Just Cause 2) and ODST didn't have any regen at all.[/QUOTE] Halo 1 had limited regen too, and I didn't know that about ODST, I haven't played it.

[QUOTE=postmanX3;27962945]I apologize if I offended you, but I still don't think you've substantiated your claims. All you and ChosenOne have come up with thus far is that it's more varied because it 'makes you think more.' Personally, I do a lot more thinking in a game of Halo where I'm forced to consider attack from all angles, whereas I spent most of Half-Life 2 burst-firing the SMG until everything in front of me was dead. Of course, it's all personal taste, and you can't quantify 'variety' in gameplay. The problem is that you (and ChosenOne) seem to think that it is indeed something that you can measure and say, "Yes, Half-Life 2 is definitely superior to other games, can't argue with that."[/QUOTE] My point is that Half-Life 2 is a very varied game, not only in environments, but in actual gameplay and mechanics; much more-so than many modern shooters, which deliver shooting gallery after shooting gallery with no deviation.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27962939]The sheer wit and cleverness of your comments is absolutely overbearing.[/QUOTE] you guys always say how it's such a puzzle when there is no puzzle in it [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] unless you're a retard or something

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27963022]you guys always say how it's such a puzzle when there is no puzzle in it [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] unless you're a retard or something[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? I don't believe I even mentioned puzzles on the previous page.

i'm talking about people who do say it(which happens to be a lot) like in general it wasn't directed towards a specific person [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] i would have quoted you if it was towards you

[QUOTE=Cookieeater;27962665]I found Half Life 2's game play really weak. The most fun parts I had playing Half Life 2 was when there were the set pieces such as the helicopter chase, or the first time you got to test the bugbait on Combine bunkers. The shooting was more like "Ugh more shooting". Half Life 1 had really meaty chunky units and awesome gameplay. Facing off the marines was an "Oh shit" moment when I first fought them. The marines were beefy as hell, they threw grenades, and would lay grenades where they were and dash away if you were running at them. Also the marines ran around everywhere. In Half Life 2, the Combine were a lot more static and unfluid. The Combine were extraordinarily weak, they had predictable movement, and seemed dullish. Fighting against the marines was like fighting the soldiers in F.E.A.R, fighting Combine was like fighting Doom enemies.[/QUOTE] I can definitely agree that the combat needs to be improved, though I really don't think the Combine had as bad AI as people say. Fighting the Replicas in FEAR was definitely more engaging though.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27962971]My point is that Half-Life 2 is a very varied game, not only in environments, but in actual gameplay and mechanics; much more-so than many modern shooters, which deliver shooting gallery after shooting gallery with no deviation.[/QUOTE] See? There you go again. "It's better and more varied than all other shooters, end of story." Care you offer a quantification of 'variety'?

I liked HL2, now is it the best game I played? no. The story was cool, the locales were cool, the characters were cool, but the game play to me was extremely average. The only thing that spiced it up was the grav gun during the Ravenholm level, and some of the action scenes. And before anyone jumps on my ass about it, I am entitled to my opinion.

What's with these threads, I mean seriously... Okay sure a lot of people like Half-Life 2 but is there any reason at ALL to make these kinds of threads? Are you purposely trying to piss people off just because they like this game? Okay you think it's overrated, blah blah blah, keep your opinion to yourself man. It's not like you can convince them to think it's overrated, and even if you did you wouldn't gain anything from it.

[QUOTE=lilcheeseladv2;27962390]I wouldn't go as far to say it sucks, but it's overated. I still think it's a great game though[/QUOTE] no hl2 was shit

[QUOTE=postmanX3;27963906]See? There you go again. "It's better and more varied than all other shooters, end of story." Care you offer a quantification of 'variety'?[/QUOTE] Do you really want me to repeat everything that has already been said? Just look at the previous pages.

I wish I wasn't so late to this discussion. I am still going to post my opinion just to reinforce whatever has been said before me. You have to look at when Half Life 2 came out. When it came out it was one of those games that was just extremely impressive. Some people on this forum were really young when it came out, so probably didn't come into the scene like some of the older members. I remember talking about game tech when Half Life 2 came out. All the other games that were out and Half Life 2 came out and it was just a different game. You have these beautiful graphics, partnered with what seemed like incredible physics, and gameplay that involved using physics and other methods to solve problems. Of course there are a lot of games out there that are amazing and deserve to be talked about, but one game I remember going crazy for was Battlefield 1942 and a couple years later, Battlefield Vietnam and Half Life 2.

Rate me late but i'll throw my own opinion as well, just for shits, giggles and possible rage. Mmhm. Half-Life 2 was a totally new experience to me after i played Half-Life 1 through so many times i knew all the maps out of memory. I [U]do admit that i played Episode One before HL2, which sort of ruined a part of the plot for me.[/U] However, i still enjoyed playing the second installment of the series and while it wasn't as scary or traumatic as it tried to be at some parts (Ravenholm, Alyx captured etc.) It was still a ton of fun to me. For example, i had a load of fun in Ravenholm finding new and creative ways to kill zombies. I remember making a huge tower from props, putting an explosive barrel on top of it and then launching the propeller next to it. Zombie goes by, i shoot one tiny cup and the whole thing falls apart, drops the barrel into the propeller which explodes and kills the zombie :v: The story was amazing, and the graphics..well, i'm seriously not a graphics freak so i didn't care much. I liked the Combines design, however when i saw some pictures from HL2B i wish they had kept the alien faction a bit more grim and hostile. The official version of the stalkers and soldiers seems sort of funny and almost cartoon-y compared to the Cremators and Beta Stalkers. (God those things scare me to death.) The Gravity gun created a whole new way to interact with the environment which msot people nowadays take for granted. Imagine if HL2 wouldn't have been released. It could be that today world interaction would be still in it's baby steps. I see Half-Life 2 not only as a very good game, it's most importantly a pioneer that set a very clear path in game industry of what players prefer. They like to interact with the world, so now Battlefield has it's destructive environments and there are less cinematics, but more in-game action that gives you much larger immersion. So, basically, it's outdated yeah, but hey. You don't go saying DOOM is overrated either. It was a pioneer, and it has it's own style. Same thing with HL2, it had it's own style and it sure as hell was a pioneer in gaming.

[QUOTE=Squad;27964225]I wish I wasn't so late to this discussion. I am still going to post my opinion just to reinforce whatever has been said before me. You have to look at when Half Life 2 came out. When it came out it was one of those games that was just extremely impressive. Some people on this forum were really young when it came out, so probably didn't come into the scene like some of the older members. I remember talking about game tech when Half Life 2 came out. All the other games that were out and Half Life 2 came out and it was just a different game. You have these beautiful graphics, partnered with what seemed like incredible physics, and gameplay that involved using physics and other methods to solve problems.[/QUOTE] No. Many games have come out before or around HL2 that are still just as good as the day they came out, the "You had to be there" excuse is NOT valid. [editline]9th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sabrina;27964687]So, basically, it's outdated yeah, but hey. You don't go saying DOOM is overrated either. It was a pioneer, and it has it's own style. Same thing with HL2, it had it's own style and it sure as hell was a pioneer in gaming.[/QUOTE] Doom is overrated. :fuckyou:

[QUOTE=Sabrina;27964687]Rate me late but i'll throw my own opinion as well, just for shits, giggles and possible rage. Mmhm. Half-Life 2 was a totally new experience to me after i played Half-Life 1 through so many times i knew all the maps out of memory. I [U]do admit that i played Episode One before HL2, which sort of ruined a part of the plot for me.[/U] However, i still enjoyed playing the second installment of the series and while it wasn't as scary or traumatic as it tried to be at some parts (Ravenholm, Alyx captured etc.) It was still a ton of fun to me. For example, i had a load of fun in Ravenholm finding new and creative ways to kill zombies. I remember making a huge tower from props, putting an explosive barrel on top of it and then launching the propeller next to it. Zombie goes by, i shoot one tiny cup and the whole thing falls apart, drops the barrel into the propeller which explodes and kills the zombie :v: The story was amazing, and the graphics..well, i'm seriously not a graphics freak so i didn't care much. I liked the Combines design, however when i saw some pictures from HL2B i wish they had kept the alien faction a bit more grim and hostile. The official version of the stalkers and soldiers seems sort of funny and almost cartoon-y compared to the Cremators and Beta Stalkers. (God those things scare me to death.) The Gravity gun created a whole new way to interact with the environment which msot people nowadays take for granted. Imagine if HL2 wouldn't have been released. It could be that today world interaction would be still in it's baby steps. I see Half-Life 2 not only as a very good game, it's most importantly a pioneer that set a very clear path in game industry of what players prefer. They like to interact with the world, so now Battlefield has it's destructive environments and there are less cinematics, but more in-game action that gives you much larger immersion. So, basically, it's outdated yeah, but hey. You don't go saying DOOM is overrated either. It was a pioneer, and it has it's own style. Same thing with HL2, it had it's own style and it sure as hell was a pioneer in gaming.[/QUOTE] This pretty much sums up my view. I think the fact that shortly after the release of HL2, the whole idea of a physgun-esque tool became a norm for the industry shows just how well they did with HL2. And for the same reason I'll still play old games, and even claim that some of them are my favourite games in existence, I still replay HL2 and the episodes and love them to death. (The plot is good, subtly delivered and I can't wait for Ep3)

The only thing I don't like about Half Life 2 is that I haven't fucking played EP3 yet what the fuck is up with that?! :argh:

I think everyone should play Grim Fandango because that game is seriously the best game of ALL TIME. (i'ma let you finish etc.)

No I disagree with OP, if it's so overrated then why isn't talked about at school, public etc like Call of Duty for example? It's amazing game and I love it.

[QUOTE=AWarGuy;27967830]No I disagree with OP, if it's so overrated then why isn't talked about at school, public etc like Call of Duty for example? It's amazing game and I love it.[/QUOTE] Probably because it was released in 2004. And I do agree about the actual gameplay being absolute shit, but the story and the characters are amazing.

Why is everyone getting it so wrong The story was bland, it had nothing special The game play was amazing, incredible in fact. I'd never seen anything quite like it when I first played and I stayed amazed for a long time.