Am I the only one that thinks Half-Life 2 is a little overrated? - Games

[QUOTE=postmanX3;27973460]Call of Duty [i]do[/i] have unique levels. [/QUOTE] :cawg: AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHA Yeah RIGHT.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27973548]A game is either varied, or it isn't.[/QUOTE] False dichotomy. Some games are more varied than others, it is a matter of degrees rather than black and white. And for the record, I do agree with you that Half-Life 2's levels are pretty varied, but you're doing a pretty crap job of arguing that viewpoint.

You might not be the only one who thinks Half life 2 is over rated, but you are defiantly the one who is going to get his head bashed in by an angry mob tonight. Might want to run while you can. [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] Also, no, no it is not over rated.

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;27974014]False dichotomy. Some games are more varied than others, it is a matter of degrees rather than black and white. And for the record, I do agree with you that Half-Life 2's levels are pretty varied, but you're doing a pretty crap job of arguing that viewpoint.[/QUOTE] How? Because I'm not repeating everything I have already said on the previous pages? I have provided enough evidence and support for my points.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27974121]How? Because I'm not repeating everything I have already said on the previous pages? I have provided enough evidence and support for my points.[/QUOTE] Well could you kindly just summarise your main points for now seeing as they're fragmented across the entire thread.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27958892] When I talk about 'multi-faceted gameplay,' I think it's more about the idea of a game being more than just a specific thing. There's a lot to be said about providing a constantly changing gameplay scenario. It may be the simple thing of avoiding a chopper shooting at you because you can't engage it, running across the beaches, and taking refuge next to thumpers, or having your NPC companion defend you with a sniper rifle, or it could be a big thing like the bug bait, which pretty much re-defines the pace of the game in a single stroke. These things happen chapter by chapter. Halo, Call of Duty - they do not grasp this, and that is why more is done in a chapter of HL2 than the entirety of the former games. I think that's a good way of putting it? Multifaceted gameplay > rinse and repeat gameplay[/QUOTE] Is there anything else I need to explain?

I'm sorry but the airboat section of the game removes any chance of it being over rated.

Half-Life 2 was released in 2004, with great graphics and realistic physics engine, it was a smashing win back in the days, there were no other games that could compare to Half-Life 2. So no, it's not overrated, it's old.

I'm new to Half life series but I think that Modern Warfare series is alot more talented developers and gameing community.

[QUOTE=MRApples7;27975049]I'm new to Half life series but I think that Modern Warfare series is alot more talented developers and gameing community.[/QUOTE] That STALKER avatar. Take it off. You're embarrassing us.

[QUOTE=FreakySoup;27945923]Part of it is the graphics, but you have to remember this was 2004. Here's a shot from the beta, which was probably around '03. [img_thumb]http://www.deafgamers.com/04screenshots_a/half-life2pic3.jpg[/img_thumb] Here's a shot from Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, which was also released in '04. [img_thumb]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcROQnyV1m6bCDP_qqyF12zlk8cqItqxjZSRB4OemGnaf3xEv-_e&t=1[/img_thumb] See, for the time, the graphics were great, and that helped towards its appeal.[/QUOTE] Doom 3 was released in 2004 i think. hl2 wasn't that great graphics wise. Although i agree it was good.

[QUOTE=sami-elite;27976283]Doom 3 was released in 2004 i think. hl2 wasn't that great graphics wise. Although i agree it was good.[/QUOTE] HL2 still looked better than Doom 3, though. And the physics, AI, etc. are so much better. [editline]10th February 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Murkat;27968554]Half-Life 2, by 2004 standards, was a game that blew you away with great graphics and very responsive and enjoyable gameplay as well as a great story. By 2010 standards, it's considered a tad more generic now.[/QUOTE] Yeah, except the newer things aren't doing it any where near as well. Half Life is still more playable than CoD.

Graphics are only cool for DX10-11 users.

This whole "It's outdated" argument can apply to a lot of older games, actually. Just look at Goldeneye. Yeah, it was probably the most inspirational shooter ever created, but it most certainly hasn't aged well. The graphics are blocky and glitchy, the AI is pretty simplistic, there's not even a single line of spoken dialogue, the multiplayer is unbalanced and there are a ridiculous amount of exploits that basically break the game's difficulty entirely. But at the time, it was fucking awesome. Seeing an NPC jump out of the way when I shot at them blew me right the hell away when I first saw it, and seeing the recreated scenes from the movie was great, too. It's successor, Perfect Dark, also amazed me with even more animations, fully voiced dialogue and a plot which, by the standards of shooter plots at the time, was pretty neat. Again, though, Perfect Dark didn't age well. Nowadays you see AI that can take cover behind just about any object and have a generally good sense of self-preservation. The plot, by today's standards, is just silly, and a lot of the levels made no sense in their layout. And the only game I've seen in recent days that isn't fully voiced is Dead Rising 2. The point is that, while a lot of games will and have revolutionized some part of gaming, a lot of those games will eventually seem quite poor later on. Half Life 2 was incredible at the time of it's release, with an opening that gave me a sense of immersion that no other game had achieved before. It felt like something terrible had happened to these people, not NPCs, but people, yet I had no idea what had happened or where I was. There was this sense that there was much more to what I was seeing. But games are fast maturing, and writing immersive stories seems to be getting easier and easier for a lot of game writers now, the thing about HL2 is that it sort of gave game writers that extra inspiration to push them forward. This is probably why HL2 doesn't seem that impressive now. Jesus Christ what is it with me and my overlong pointless rants recently. This one didn't even make much sense.

[QUOTE=Sharp_Shooter;27970065]Hopefully when we get our hands on Portal 2, the engine will look 10x better than it did in 2007.[/QUOTE] Portal 2 still runs on Source, and I doubt they'll give it a UT3-like overhaul. It'll look better than Portal 1, certainly, but it likely won't be amazing and beautiful beyond comparison.

Did you guys read the scripts from the scrapped intro/eli's cave/air exchange sequences? [img]http://images.wikia.com/valve/es/images/1/1a/Now_arriving.jpg[/img] The game would have been so much better with them. There's also this thing where Eli Maxwell shows you, using a slide projector, the changes since the last game in detail, explaining how the citadels actually [i] teleported into the world's major cities[/i], packed full of Xen slaves and combine to take over the earth in hours.

On the contrary, I much prefer the final version of the game to the early artwork.

I really hope Valve stopped working on Episode 3 by now, they should rather fix L4D or TF2 instead of working on something nobody wants anymore. Or better, they should ruin the HL Series with Episode 3 to put an end to it. Maybe I just had bad experiences with HL2-Fans but I really dislike the game. Players seeing gameplay elements that dont even exist and the hidden story elements are just some made up stuff by the community.

I didn't like it. You just shoot things and solve puzzles.

[QUOTE=DJSergei;27988887]I didn't like it. You just shoot things and solve puzzles.[/QUOTE] That's pretty good compared to today's average "Shoot things and watch some explosion cutscenes"

People still don't get the point that the game was released in 2004.

[QUOTE=daumantas100;27989060]People still don't get the point that the game was released in 2004.[/QUOTE] Most of them are too young to understand that, it's pointless to argue.

[QUOTE=daumantas100;27989060]People still don't get the point that the game was released in 2004.[/QUOTE] Age. doesn't. MATTER. games are either good or not, not "good then but not now." I still play tons of old games and enjoy them. also, most of what you guys are saying for how it was groundbreaking is "it looked better then other games"

[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;27988956]That's pretty good compared to today's average "Shoot things and watch some explosion cutscenes"[/QUOTE] I prefer the cutscene.

[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;27989140]Age. doesn't. MATTER. games are either good or not, not "good then but not now." I still play tons of old games and enjoy them. also, most of what you guys are saying for how it was groundbreaking is "it looked better then other games"[/QUOTE] I love it, having been my first shooter, for being easy to pick up and play without losing enjoyment. And the narrative is awesome compared to most anything released that I have played. [editline]11th February 2011[/editline] And a lot of the appeal isn't necessarily half life 2, but what came from it. Like gmod

[QUOTE=BipolarPanda;27989246]I love it, having been my first shooter, for being easy to pick up and play without losing enjoyment. And the narrative is awesome compared to most anything released that I have played. [editline]11th February 2011[/editline] And a lot of the appeal isn't necessarily half life 2, but what came from it. Like gmod[/QUOTE] Yes, this is the kind of reasons that are actually good, not just "it looked better" Thank you.

11 pages in a few days. I sort of saw this coming, OP. Why didn't you? [B]WHY?![/B]

I liked HL1 more..

[QUOTE=RixxzIV;27990157]I liked HL1 more..[/QUOTE] But this isn't the hl2 vs hl1 thread. And to be honest, hl1 didn't have that much story till the expansions.

Half-Life 2 is great because of it's physics engine. It was over the-edge computer technology back in 2004. The story was also very interesting if not very original and dramatic.