Counter-Strike: Source Beta Launches! (Don't make other threads.)
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I really don't like this update. I don't want CS:S to become a kid friendly POS. That's what TF2 is for. As I said on FPSBanana,
[quote=me from fpsnana]I like CS:S for its nonsensical nature and I have skins for everything, I don't fancy losing them. Being unable to modify my skins would suck. In addition, I agree with the killcams defeating the whole gameplay of CS:S. Granting killcams in a game where camping is part of the basic nature of the game breaks the gameplay. Snipers become useless, camping behind logical spots becomes useless, it makes the game less realistic and much less fun. The reason it works in TF2 is due to the respawning. CS:S doesn't have this, unless it's deathmatch mod, and even then it doesn't need kill cam because it's so fast paced. Deathmatch is designed to be survival of the fittest and train your skills, to prepare for anything and react quickly to situations. Having a killcam defeats that purpose, making the game much easier and much less fun.
TL;DR Killcam is a shit idea for CS:S and I want the update to be optional.[/quote]
[QUOTE=lintz;21900379]I really don't like this update. [B]I don't want CS:S to become a kid friendly POS. That's what TF2 is for[/B]. As I said on FPSBanana,[/QUOTE]
:colbert:
[QUOTE=john_frohman;21900430]:colbert:[/QUOTE]
It is. TF2 is much more user friendly, whereas CS:S has a massive skill ceiling, where if you're bad, you suck shit and if you're good, you're really good. There's hardly any median.
[QUOTE=lintz;21900379]I really don't like this update. I don't want CS:S to become a kid friendly POS. That's what TF2 is for. As I said on FPSBanana,[/QUOTE]
That killcam thing is retarded. By default you can spectate whoever you like, so I don't see how killcam makes that any worse. Why would it even matter where the person was camping? You won't respawn, it's not like you'll get an easier revenge now you know where they're hiding. If you do kill them again when they're in the same spot next round, it's their fault for being a faggy camper.
[editline]05:56PM[/editline]
And it's not like you can tell your team where he's camping. Dead talk is disabled by default. If you're using Ventrilo or similar, you're already not playing fairly. Ghosting is frowned upon and not really Valve's fault.
Killcams was the best thing to happen to cs:s.
Oh woopdie doo. I found out where he sniped me. Maybe next round I will be more aware of my surroundings and potentially start becoming a better player.
Recoil changes and weapon modifications. Guns now shoot more accurately which reduces the skill required. Hrrrnnghh, I'm probably just reluctant to change due to the loss of skins. I love my skins.
[QUOTE=Bad Tractor;21891150]If you want the beta, but don't have it, these are the steps to get it.
Steps:
1. steam://validate/260 - and wait for Steam to fully download the GCF.
2. Use GCF Scape to extract the cstrike_beta folder to the SourceMods folder (located in the SteamApps folder)
3. In the cstrike_beta folder, open GameInfo.txt
Replace:
[CODE]SteamAppId 260[/CODE]with
[code]SteamAppId 440[/code]You must have TF2.
4. Rename steam.inf to steam_.inf
5. Restart Steam
6. Right click the new game in your Steam menu, click properties, Set Launch Options, add in advanced secuirty options:
[CODE]-insecure -secure[/CODE]
7. Enjoy
Steps are similar for setting up a server. Just edit the gameinfo.txt file in the dedicated server.
Achievements work, but are not uploaded to the Steam Cloud - stats are also recorded, but not uploaded.
You can only play on servers that are setup like this. I'm sure there will be some setup.[/QUOTE]
Could not load library client.
[QUOTE=lintz;21900379]I really don't like this update. I don't want CS:S to become a kid friendly POS. That's what TF2 is for. As I said on FPSBanana,[/QUOTE]
you sound very boring.
Wish the beta wasn't limited, metagaming sounds like a good way of this game taking some more of my life.
On the computer I'm currently using, the Beta seems to run faster on High than the normal game runs on Low.
[QUOTE=lintz;21900379]I really don't like this update. I don't want CS:S to become a kid friendly POS. That's what TF2 is for. As I said on FPSBanana,[/QUOTE]
TF2 is not a "kid friendly POS".
If anything, CS:S is a "kid friendly POS" and has always been.
[editline]05:37PM[/editline]
Does the beta allow support for DirectX 7.0, or did the engine update kill that?
[QUOTE=lintz;21900706]Recoil changes and weapon modifications. Guns now shoot more accurately which reduces the skill required. Hrrrnnghh, I'm probably just reluctant to change due to the loss of skins. I love my skins.[/QUOTE]
you mean better reg?
[QUOTE=KillerTV;21901123]you sound very boring.
Wish the beta wasn't limited, metagaming sounds like a good way of this game taking some more of my life.[/QUOTE]
No, I'm just a spastic for more realistic games as opposed to less serious ones. I play CS:S because I don't want to play TF2 and vice versa. Don't tell me to go on MW2 or something.
[editline]06:38PM[/editline]
[QUOTE=c0nk3r;21901267]you mean better reg?[/QUOTE]
Wait what?
I wasn't going to, but how do stats and achievements make a game less serious? Keep in mind the kill cam can be turned off.
[QUOTE=KillerTV;21901422]I wasn't going to, but how do stats and achievements make a game less serious? Keep in mind the kill cam can be turned off.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps not less serious, but a lot of the carefree killing becomes channelled into the desire for more achievements and better stats. It just becomes a statwhore fest, which already exists, but would be even worse after the patch. I don't know. I'm fighting a losing battle.
"Hurr the graphics are teh same and ders n0 new guns!"
seriously i have heard this so much, people seem to think that this is suppose to be a brand new counter strike.
[QUOTE=lukepker;21901490]"Hurr the graphics are teh same and ders n0 new guns!"
seriously i have heard this so much, people seem to think that this is suppose to be a brand new counter strike.[/QUOTE]
The entire reason people wanted an update was for a graphical overhaul. What we got was a UI upgrade, leading to a lot of disappointment.
Getting achievements does perk me up a bit, I like this update. Atleast it's an escape from TF2's HATSHATSHATSHATS community.
[QUOTE=lintz;21901460]Perhaps not less serious, but a lot of the carefree killing becomes channelled into the desire for more achievements and better stats. It just becomes a statwhore fest, which already exists, but would be even worse after the patch. I don't know. I'm fighting a losing battle.[/QUOTE]
people killing enemies other than to win?!?!?! oh. my. god. that is such bullshit
[QUOTE=Ziron;21901771]people killing enemies other than to win?!?!?! oh. my. god. that is such bullshit[/QUOTE]
Achivement servers plz.
[QUOTE=lintz;21901278]No, I'm just a spastic for more realistic games as opposed to less serious ones. I play CS:S because I don't want to play TF2 and vice versa. Don't tell me to go on MW2 or something.[/QUOTE]
CS and CSS are NOT realistic, go play ARMA 2 or Operation Flashpoint.
Let us have killcams.
I want killcams too
And someone to set up a server for us poor bums who didnt get the Beta, only the mod version.
[QUOTE=Psyke89;21902041]CS and CSS are NOT realistic, go play ARMA 2 or Operation Flashpoint.
Let us have killcams.[/QUOTE]
Yes, thank you for pointing out what I already know. I said a more realistic game as opposed to a realism game. I like to unwind by smashing the skulls of bots, instead of having my ass handed to me by one shot kills.
killcam = points to person who killed you and says Press f5 to save this moment.
Killcam /=/ The shit in Mw2
[QUOTE=c0nk3r;21902339]killcam = points to person who killed you and says Press f5 to save this moment.
Killcam /=/ The shit in Mw2[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, Infinity Ward invented killcam with COD 1.
[QUOTE=AntonFTW;21901248]TF2 is not a "kid friendly POS".
If anything, CS:S is a "kid friendly POS" and has always been.
[editline]05:37PM[/editline]
Does the beta allow support for DirectX 7.0, or did the engine update kill that?[/QUOTE]
Neither of these games are kid friendly, but kids still play them.
Goddamnit I want to try this.
Im going to play this now.
Why beta is limited :smith:
EDIT:
They want us to suffer even more after years of silence
When is is fully updated they should put on a free week for people to play for a whole week.
Is the FP server still up or has the IP changed or something?
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