[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;27525068]Jax is so much more satisfying. Xin is easier and hits harder in a burst way. Jax is the KING of 1v1.[/QUOTE]
yeah, they're both fun for me. but i'm looking for one that matches my reckless, fuck shit up playstyle
[QUOTE=Blueplastic;27523211]Is the new alligator guy any good?[/QUOTE]
I think they shouldn't have pre-nerfed him. Just because Phreak made him look OP in the spotlight everyone assumed he was OP and bitched about it.
[QUOTE=Dysentery;27525163]yeah, they're both fun for me. but i'm looking for one that matches my reckless, fuck shit up playstyle[/QUOTE]
For you, Xin. IMO, I find Jax more fun and he turns total beast late game.
Jax's Law: You will die in a team fight.
[QUOTE=aydin690;27524185]Go with an AP build. Flash and sheen are mandatory though.
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For alistar is usually go with this build:
Boots of swiftness (cuz you're fuckin slow as shit)
Lich bane
Raylai's scepter
hourglass
Glacial shroud (cuz your cool downs are long as shit)
Void staff (for more oomph) or abyssal scepter
Most of the time you won't be able to finish this build because you're literally the worst farmer in the game. So, use your Q to farm and fuck all the nay sayers.[/QUOTE]
With this build you should be able to deal about 650dmg with your pulverize, and about 750dmg with your headbutt and heal yourself for about 350hp every 7 seconds.
Your attack combo will be flash, pulverize, walk behind them, hit them once, headbutt, heal.
You got ganked? No worries, pop your ult and just walk away. Occasionally headbutt the champs away too.
You can act as your carry's body guard. Stick to the carry, heal him/her and headbutt away those pesky enemies who dare to get close to him/her (remember you can send your enemies through the walls with your headbutt too). You can initiate fights and just walk out of a 5 man gank with your heal and ult. You can rip apart turrets as if they are made of legos (you deal 60% more damage to turrets).
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Farm with your Q.
[QUOTE=aydin690;27525864]With this build you should be able to deal about 650dmg with your pulverize, and about 750dmg with your headbutt and heal yourself for about 350hp every 7 seconds.
Your attack combo will be flash, pulverize, walk behind them, hit them once, headbutt, heal.
You got ganked? No worries, pop your ult and just walk away. Occasionally headbutt the champs away too.
You can act as your carry's body guard. Stick to the carry, heal him/her and headbutt away those pesky enemies who dare to get close to him/her (remember you can send your enemies through the walls with your headbutt too). You can initiate fights and just walk out of a 5 man gank with your heal and ult. You can rip apart turrets as if they are made of legos (you deal 60% more damage to turrets).
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
Farm with your Q.[/QUOTE]
Alistar is tank ffs,he is not made for farming stuff.
[QUOTE=Jund;27519088]Why would you need to max Q
Single target, can't pop projectiles and aggro, can't be used to farm and initiate
You should already have enough heal from your 6 Warmongs[/QUOTE]
Lol jund what have we started?
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=aydin690;27525864]With this build you should be able to deal about 650dmg with your pulverize, and about 750dmg with your headbutt and heal yourself for about 350hp every 7 seconds.
Your attack combo will be flash, pulverize, walk behind them, hit them once, headbutt, heal.
You got ganked? No worries, pop your ult and just walk away. Occasionally headbutt the champs away too.
You can act as your carry's body guard. Stick to the carry, heal him/her and headbutt away those pesky enemies who dare to get close to him/her (remember you can send your enemies through the walls with your headbutt too). You can initiate fights and just walk out of a 5 man gank with your heal and ult. You can rip apart turrets as if they are made of legos (you deal 60% more damage to turrets).
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Farm with your Q.[/QUOTE]
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[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
Q has a longass cooldown and you better not use it to farm. In a game against good players, you may need to use Q at any moment. It'd be like fiddles using his ult to farm creepwaves. Yes, it would drastically improve his farm, but Ali can't sustain the use of the skill because of its ridiculous mana cost. he's a much better tank. Get some Ap on him? Fine. Full AP Mageistar? No sir
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Also Dwragon your mom said get off the computer you're failing la clase de espanol
[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;27525068]
Jax is the KING of 1v1.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, no.
Gotten to play Caitlyn a bit more, and I've determined that she's somewhat of a burst support. She's great at pushing and because of this she can backdoor the enemy team pretty well and use her 90 Caliber Net to help her escape. In the laning phase she's good at farming and harassing. When it comes to team fights, she can throw her snap traps, put out damage with peacemaker and her auto-attack (though it won't be a lot in a normal game, but it is something), slow down stragglers with the 90 Caliber Net, and in that one extremely rare situation where a squishy is running from your team and happens to stay in range long enough to pop her ult, it'll do something.
I find that she's an ok character that's useful to have on a team, but she should be treated as a support and not a carry. Shoeing Caitlyn into midlane is a horrible idea since most characters will benefit more from it. Ultimately though, she's not useful enough to be used in serious games. Playing in Normal games with your friends its ok to use her, but if you start playing competitively she isn't really viable at all. Maybe if she had a third snaptrap and if her ultimate actually does more than her auto-attack then she'd be viable.
[QUOTE=Phir3;27526086]Hahaha, no.[/QUOTE]
he beats warwick sometimes
also I never play xin well in teamfights/early game. tips?
[quote=ByronicHero]Step aside, Caitlyn. There’s a new Sheriff in town. LeaverBuster is on the case![/quote]
caitlyn still being so shit lmao can't even keep her job as sheriff.
Summoners,
We are aware that we have had a number of higher IP priced champions of late. However, Renekton was an amazing Champion, and we're confident that he will be worth your IP or RP. We plan to release the next champion at a lower IP price in order to be able to offer a variety of prices for you all. We hope you enjoy Renekton and we look forward to bringing you a lower IP priced champion in the next patch.
~Moneypenny
Update:
Summoners, our next champion is going to be very exciting and fun to play, but we want to ensure we have a mix of IP prices and so we have decided that she will be released at 3150 IP.
yes!! now i only need to farm for 2 weeks instead of 4!
also since when was being an "amazing champion" warrant a 6300 price tag? I'm pretty sure Riot stated they were based off difficulty (and if not, Riot is implying the 3150 champ will be not-so amazing)
and if they want a mix of prices 1350 and 450 have been looking pretty lonely for about a year now
Xin is super balanced while Jax is UP imo.
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
Difficulty is a horrible deciding factor in pricing. They really should just make all champions cost the same, so everything is more balanced.
I get so put off of this game whenever I play it. I may suck, but when people who are really good just pick on me the entire time, and then leave the first sign of us losing. I don't care if my average record is 3 kills 15 deaths, I just wanna have fun.
she is going to be 3150.
more tits.
i don't think 6300 IP takes very long
i got a thousand yesterday and i'm only level 17
if you know you're going to lose, surrender at 25
[QUOTE=elevator13;27527888]Summoners, our next champion is going to be very exciting and fun to play, but we want to ensure we have a mix of IP prices and so we have decided that she will be released at 3150 IP.[/QUOTE]
:rolleyes:
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
Of course not 1k....of course...
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
But we know it's a "she".
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;27523153]new caitlyn is op[/QUOTE]
If you built that on a Trist you would be 30/0 and actually have useful skills
[QUOTE=Blueridge;27527504]he beats warwick sometimes
also I never play xin well in teamfights/early game. tips?[/QUOTE]
Aside from being fed, I don't get how jax can beat him unless ww builds all AS lifesteal or something.
For xin getting lantern at like 6 minutes boosts your early game by a ton, and it should be easy to kill everything as long as your team doesn't suck.
[QUOTE=The Great Ghast;27528173]I get so put off of this game whenever I play it. I may suck, but when people who are really good just pick on me the entire time, and then leave the first sign of us losing. I don't care if my average record is 3 kills 15 deaths, I just wanna have fun.[/QUOTE]
When you go 3/15 you're basically screwing over everybody on your team.
[QUOTE=Phir3;27528597]Aside from being fed, I don't get how jax can beat him unless ww builds all AS lifesteal or something.
For xin getting lantern at like 6 minutes boosts your early game by a ton, and it should be easy to kill everything as long as your team doesn't suck.[/QUOTE]
cause ww autoattacks, therefore jax wins.
[QUOTE=elevator13;27527888]Summoners,
We are aware that we have had a number of higher IP priced champions of late. However, Renekton was an amazing Champion, and we're confident that he will be worth your IP or RP. We plan to release the next champion at a lower IP price in order to be able to offer a variety of prices for you all. We hope you enjoy Renekton and we look forward to bringing you a lower IP priced champion in the next patch.
~Moneypenny
Update:
Summoners, our next champion is going to be very exciting and fun to play, but we want to ensure we have a mix of IP prices and so we have decided that she will be released at 3150 IP.
yes!! now i only need to farm for 2 weeks instead of 4!
also since when was being an "amazing champion" warrant a 6300 price tag? I'm pretty sure Riot stated they were based off difficulty (and if not, Riot is implying the 3150 champ will be not-so amazing)
and if they want a mix of prices 1350 and 450 have been looking pretty lonely for about a year now[/QUOTE]
This really says a lot when they have to make a special announcement when a champion is less than 6300. And 3150 still isn't cheap. And god fucking damnit another female champ.
[QUOTE=valiant.;27529015]cause ww autoattacks, therefore jax wins.[/QUOTE]
haha, what? I would like to see jax take on a warwick that has a bloodrazor and black cleaver.
Warwick rqw's jax.
"warwick has slain an enemy"
gg.
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[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
Q has a longass cooldown and you better not use it to farm. In a game against good players, you may need to use Q at any moment. It'd be like fiddles using his ult to farm creepwaves. Yes, it would drastically improve his farm, but Ali can't sustain the use of the skill because of its ridiculous mana cost. he's a much better tank. Get some Ap on him? Fine. Full AP Mageistar? No sir
[/QUOTE]
With that build you're still tanky while dealing out great damage. My score often ends up being like 9/3/12.
[QUOTE=aydin690;27529219]haha, what? I would like to see jax take on a warwick that has a bloodrazor and black cleaver.
Warwick rqw's jax.
"warwick has slain an enemy"
gg.
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
With that build you're still tanky while dealing out great damage. My score often ends up being like 9/3/12.[/QUOTE]
Actually, if the Jax doesn't die from the ultimate and the swipe, he has a damn good chance of winning. The longer he sustains the fight with WW the more likely Jax will turn the fight around and tear him a new one.
Also decided to get a new profile on the EU client if I ever feel like playing with any of my EU friends. Username is the same as the one I'm using on US, FabulousJeremy.
dreadknight garen is so cool he is my lover
[QUOTE=aydin690;27529219]haha, what? I would like to see jax take on a warwick that has a bloodrazor and black cleaver.
[/QUOTE]
you're an idiot. warwick uses r, awesome. it does some of jax's health, hell, i'll even give you 25% of his health. jax gets out of suppression, and since you're autoattacking him you proc his stun. stun. you get back, autoattack, stun. stun. stun. stun. stun. stun. stun. stun.
jax with the same amount of farm will destroy your pathetic wolf 1v1.
[QUOTE=aydin690;27529219]haha, what? I would like to see jax take on a warwick that has a bloodrazor and black cleaver.
Warwick rqw's jax.
"warwick has slain an enemy"
gg.
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
With that build you're still tanky while dealing out great damage. My score often ends up being like 9/3/12.[/QUOTE]
With that build you have no mana because you wasted it farming with Q and you're not that tanky and you shouldn't be dealing damage with Ali, you should be tanking.
And WW will usually lose to jax because WW has no way of stopping jax from attacking, so jax will get all wound up and kill him and get lots of dodge procs unless WW has a magic way of not auto-attacking.
[editline]19th January 2011[/editline]
And if WW has razors then jax has gunblade, so he'll outheal WW anyway.
WW with
bloodrazor, merc treads, GA, visage, omen, and frozen heart +ignite exhaust will beat Jax no matter what his items are.
Except jax is not gonna survive a full WW combo, specially early/mid game.
Jax probably is gonna be getting less gold than ww thorughout the game anyways.
Sneak pulling squishies through walls with Blitzcrank gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
Note about WW vs. Jax debate: Jax with tabi, rageblade, gunblade, and rylai's will win.
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