[QUOTE=Supersheepie;37855512]So in theory, if you steal Zet's ultimate as Rubick. You can create infinite rubicks when you continue to steal his ultimate with your illusions?[/QUOTE]
oh my god
i was sad about the chronosphere steal nerf but if this works it totally makes up for it
Glorious Patch
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;37853337]I think this is the most interesting part of the patch notes
[img]http://puu.sh/19XqP[/img]
It's fair to say that Naga and Dark Seer were the top two heroes in the scene right now. Dark Seer has pretty much everything nerfed slightly, in what I think was a very fair way. But everyone complained about Naga's ult and it wasn't really changed. All that changed was her carry potential, or at least laning strength.[/QUOTE]
You are incorrect, Dark Seer did not have pretty much everything nerfed slightly, he had his movement speed slightly tapped and Vacuum is weaker and can't wombo combo with Naga. This means he is now slightly worse at initiating and needs better positioning. This isn't a really huge nerf, as many teams did not use Dark Seer as a main initiator, and even if they did they would get Blink Dagger on him making the Vacuum nerfs not that big of a deal (aside from not working w/ Naga). He will still be top pick/ban material, as he is still strong all phases of the game. If you want to weaken DS's pick potential, you'd want to look at Shell/Surge for early game or Wall for late game, eg make Surge not usable on himself, suddenly DS is now a much easier to gank person in suicide lane 1v2 and picks are less restricted against him, however he is still great at what he does extremely well.
Naga Siren is probably never going to have her song nerfed ever (aside from the fact that Vacuum no longer works with it). Icefrog has always been extremely adamant about keeping a hero's focus in tact, even if it means creating more and more weaknesses to keep it. If she proves troubling still, you will most likely see hits to her Net/Splash long before you see any to her ultimate.
I don't like how they reworked Icarus Dive, that's probably one of the things I have problem with because Dive helped so much initiating as Phoenix. The new ability just makes Icarus feel weird.
And they seriously nerfed Terrorblade, changing Zeal for this conjure Image and taking away the images that spawn from metamorphosis, he has lost so many carry potential.
Both haven't been added yet so its fine for now, there is plenty of time to rework those abilities to make them sound nice.
All the changes on the heroes that are already in DotA 2 are good, matchmaking will be horrible meanwhile tho, many people going "WHAT THE FUCK, THIS WASNT LIKE THIS 1 DAY AGO, OMG".
I'm confused with Clockwerks changes, is force staff still a way to shit all over him?
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;37853449]I love Force Staff but sadly it had to be changed. It was simply a ridiculously good item, every pro player agreed. This also makes Rod of Atos / Eul's much more viable.[/QUOTE]
I love it when I play Lich and someone else builds Mekanism, so I can become a utility Lich with Force Staff and Rod of Atos :v:
[editline]30th September 2012[/editline]
Anyway, interesting changes
[QUOTE=Ranik;37855807]Naga Siren is probably never going to have her song nerfed ever (aside from the fact that Vacuum no longer works with it). Icefrog has always been extremely adamant about keeping a hero's focus in tact, even if it means creating more and more weaknesses to keep it. If she proves troubling still, you will most likely see hits to her Net/Splash long before you see any to her ultimate.[/QUOTE]
I would be perfectly fine with Song of the Siren if in anyway it was possible to interrupt the cast of it. Maybe if it had a short channel like Sand King or something. Anything to make it not a I-don't-want-to-play-anymore-I'm-going-home.
[QUOTE=EXoDUSFLT;37853424]Keeper of the Light
- Illuminate max hit distance increased from 1600 to 2000
It's okay, I didn't really want to farm this lane anyways![/QUOTE]
Funny how Dota 2 just fixed the extra 200 range to it. When we are just going to get an extra 400 this week.
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;37854079]" Illuminate max hit distance increased from 1600 to 2000"
Didn't they just 'fix' it from going 400 units too (so 2000) long it Dota 2?[/QUOTE]
Tournaments will still be running on 6.74, so they will have the 1600 distance for a while still. It's only non-tournament games that will have the 2000 range.
[QUOTE=Santz;37855888]I don't like how they reworked Icarus Dive, that's probably one of the things I have problem with because Dive helped so much initiating as Phoenix. The new ability just makes Icarus feel weird.
And they seriously nerfed Terrorblade, changing Zeal for this conjure Image and taking away the images that spawn from metamorphosis, he has lost so many carry potential.
Both haven't been added yet so its fine for now, there is plenty of time to rework those abilities to make them sound nice.
All the changes on the heroes that are already in DotA 2 are good, matchmaking will be horrible meanwhile tho, many people going "WHAT THE FUCK, THIS WASNT LIKE THIS 1 DAY AGO, OMG".[/QUOTE]
I hate how they removed Zeal for such a simple, and seemingly useless spell.
He could really do with the health regen and asp.
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- Spirit Wolves HP decreased from 400/450/500/550 to 200/240/280/320[/quote]
Fuck you Icefrog jungle creeps will literally sneeze at my wolves and they'll piss themselves and go into a coma now
[QUOTE=Shibbey;37854459]Lancer's buff is amazing. He's going to be so absurd now.[/QUOTE]
It really makes up for his weaker abilities.
Before if you had a clear understanding of how his invis/illusions work he was easy to stomp, but now this will make him really shine.
[QUOTE=EpikEnvy2.0;37856552]Fuck you Icefrog jungle creeps will literally sneeze at my wolves and they'll piss themselves and go into a coma now[/QUOTE]
Guess you gotta jungle harder now, not just "Oh, I am level 3, my wolves are so good, I can jungle so fa-OH WAIT, I am 5 already ? They are beastl-HOLY CRAP, these babies are maxed and they can chase hero off the lane if I so desire, and they do tank it up real nicely!".
Oh, and good luck Roshing. I am sure as hell gonna pay attention while doing that now as Lycan.
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Anti-Mage - Legs decreased from 2/2/2/2 to 1/1.5/1.8/1.9
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What does this mean?
Hey maybe Phantom Assassin got a buff other then her crit!
Coup de Grace critical strike multiplier increased from 2.5/3.25/4 to 2.5/3.5/4.5
Still a great buff.
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[QUOTE=EliteGuy;37856681]What does this mean?[/QUOTE]
It's a joke.
[QUOTE=EliteGuy;37856681]What does this mean?[/QUOTE]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ktBGdMWi-w[/media]
[QUOTE=Tokagero;37856664]Guess you gotta jungle harder now, not just "Oh, I am level 3, my wolves are so good, I can jungle so fa-OH WAIT, I am 5 already ? They are beastl-HOLY CRAP, these babies are maxed and they can chase hero off the lane if I so desire, and they do tank it up real nicely!".
Oh, and good luck Roshing. I am sure as hell gonna pay attention while doing that now as Lycan.[/QUOTE]
I dunno, another thing that made me kind've upset is the increased mana cost of it. I have enough early game mana problems with keeping the wolves alive as is, but now, after a quarter of a camp, it seems like they'd be flailing at them with no limbs and begging for the sweet release of death
[QUOTE=EliteGuy;37856641]It really makes up for his weaker abilities.
Before if you had a clear understanding of how his invis/illusions work he was easy to stomp, but now this will make him really shine.[/QUOTE]
I wonder how powerfull is he gonna be and how much will he now be picked...
He's a bitch to players who don't take some time off to ward or dust.
Level 1 tiny toss now has 2000 range from the start :dance:
Man I was expecting some sick buffs for Rubick, and all he got was slower movement speed and [B]NOW I CAN'T COUNTER CHRONOSPHERE.[/B]
Rest in peace rubick...
[QUOTE=Guillebon;37857022]Man I was expecting some sick buffs for Rubick, and all he got was slower movement speed and [B]NOW I CAN'T COUNTER CHRONOSPHERE.[/B]
Rest in peace rubick...[/QUOTE]
Buffs for rubick. What.
Are you kidding? He is such a good hero even with these slight nerfs.
any Ideas about the roles of these new heroes?
Level Death bonus damage now deals 20% of Max HP instead of a fixed amount
holy fuck
[QUOTE] Quill Spray damage cap increased from 220 to 400[/QUOTE]
:suicide:
[QUOTE]Agility growth increased from 2.8 to 4.2[/QUOTE]
:pwn:
It seemed useless to steal chrono most of the time since he can't dish out enough damage himself and if void chrono'd it'll be a clusterfuck in most cases and catching only enemies would be near impossible and he'd generally just fuck his team over.
[QUOTE=Hobbax;37857504]:suicide:[/QUOTE]
You still have to get the stacks. You would need 13.3 casts to get up to 400 damage, which would take 40 seconds. (rounded up to 14 casts, as you can't have a third of a cast)
so I assume these changes will be reflected in Dota 2 as well? Orr...
[QUOTE=General J;37858026]so I assume these changes will be reflected in Dota 2 as well? Orr...[/QUOTE]
This weeks update.
I just hope we get 6.75 this week in dota 2, I'm so hyped. Also Magnataur, and possibly Centaur.
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