6.75 Discussion Station - Games

This makes me happy: [quote]- Arc Lightning cooldown decreased from 2 to 1.75 - Thundergod's Wrath cooldown decreased from 120 to 90[/quote] [URL]http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/3/30/Zuus_respawn_01.mp3[/URL] [editline]30th September 2012[/editline] Any other Treant fans kinda scared about his changes? I like the new Ult and damage, not so sure about the new armor ability.

[QUOTE=General J;37858104] Any other Treant fans kinda scared about his changes? I like the new Ult and damage, not so sure about the new armor ability.[/QUOTE] That skill used to be like that, but it was changed to a pasive aura. Now it's a global buff again.

I liked the passive though :( Won't know until I try it I suppose. I think he'll be picked more often now though, since his disable lasts almost twice as long as Ravage. (With the exception of shorter range, and no damage)

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;37857280]Level Death bonus damage now deals 20% of Max HP instead of a fixed amount holy fuck[/QUOTE] That is mostly a neft. It would only be powerful if the enemy has a lot of hp. my automerge

Well i might sound really optimistic here, but looking at the changes, they all seem to be stats changes and not new gamechanging spells, so my guess is Valve shouldnt take long to port all this to Dota 2, hopefully we will get it this week.

[QUOTE=Supersheepie;37855512]So in theory, if you steal Zet's ultimate as Rubick. You can create infinite rubicks when you continue to steal his ultimate with your illusions?[/QUOTE] If I have to guess, you can only make a single copy, but that copy will probably have the ability to steal spells like you. But since the copy lasts very little, it would be pretty much imposible to steal it two times unless the enemy zeus is brain dead or you are flash. [editline]30th September 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=NoName-;37858247]Well i might sound really optimistic here, but looking at the changes, they all seem to be stats changes and not new gamechanging spells, so my guess is Valve shouldnt take long to port all this to Dota 2, hopefully we will get it this week.[/QUOTE] Well, the "new" buff shield of treant would allow you to heal towers from the other side of the map, and pit lord's new aura changes the way you play him a bit.

Yay Sniper getting buffs.

[QUOTE=77662;37858362]Yay Sniper getting buffs.[/QUOTE] minor buffs imo. I found interesting the Void chronosphere buff, he deals twice the damage of bash, the same could be done with Headshot and Shrapnel

[QUOTE=77662;37858362]Yay Sniper getting buffs.[/QUOTE] What joy it is to have a guy stunning and damaging you continuously from out of tower range.

Does Winter Wyvern's ult prevent blinking or invisibility? Could be rendered useless by that.

i love the changes to the gold distribution, it's what's gonna change the metagame as well as the new buffs and nerfs that'll change the ban phase.

[QUOTE=Dogchow33;37860931]Does Winter Wyvern's ult prevent blinking or invisibility? Could be rendered useless by that.[/QUOTE] The description says "cursing a targeted enemy unit and freezing it in place". Sounds like it prevents blinking.

I love the buffs on Alchemist, finally people won't call me retarded for picking him anymore. I like the morph nerfs too, but i think it's a bit too much. If he ends being totally useless, after some months people will start going "please buff morph he's useless" and "nerf alchemist he's too OP" and this cycle will keep on forever.

you can't please everybody

[QUOTE=BeardyDuck;37861014]i love the changes to the gold distribution, it's what's gonna change the metagame as well as the new buffs and nerfs that'll change the ban phase.[/QUOTE] yeah everyone is gushing over OMG WYVERN ULT but the bounty change is going to lead to a fucking [B]massive[/B] shift in the meta towards ganking heroes being stronger so dudes like clockwerk, huskar, gyro, even bloodseeker are gonna see a lot more use this is utterly fantastic. death to chinese dota strats

less stagnant boring farming gameplay more gank oriented play styles this is almost like hon

nope, chinese play style is gonna be part of the new meta. you're gonna see games now where it's either turtling or ganking. [editline]30th September 2012[/editline] just the pushing meta is gonna be less prominent.

disappointing

[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;37861996]disappointing[/QUOTE] Push meta became boring ages ago.

[QUOTE=SnowCanary;37862370]Push meta became boring ages ago.[/QUOTE] It's the one I'm the best at tho. :(

i don't really mind chinese farm strats being a thing because then you have the fundamental clash between gankers and turtlers, and this patch looks like it's gonna buff the ganking side hugely it's like zoners vs. rushdown in fighting games, zoners [I]need[/I] to exist for rushdown to have any real meaning

still doesnt change the fact that farming and zoning in both respective games is boring

[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;37862595]still doesnt change the fact that farming and zoning in both respective games is boring[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=NomadicNinja;37861562]you can't please everybody[/QUOTE]

About the Ethereal Blade and Aghanims for Huskar: Imagine him using ethereal blades and then ulting you, thats +75% of max HP right there. Add in resist of course, but still pretty high dmg. And add Dagon for even more fun. I know it isn't practical, but when I tried this in a bot game, it was quite funny to see full HP Pudge with Tarrasque drop to 20% hp in a couple of seconds.

[QUOTE=Eonart;37863150]Does anyone here think it's okay to be extremely worried about Frost Wyrm players misusing him? I just don't have a good feeling about him.[/QUOTE] Don't see why that's an issue when heroes like Pugna, Wisp, etc. exist

I remember my worst heroes being the ones who could cast shit on allies that did stuff like that, mainly OD and SD because I could also save the enemy when trying to disable them. I'm smart now so that stuff doesn't happen as often!

I don't think it's much to worry about.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37863432]I don't think it's much to worry about.[/QUOTE] You can intentionally freeze someone so the enemy can easilly kill them when the effect is over or to stop them from killing someone etc.

As volitile as people an be, I've run into intentional trolling like that maybe three times in Dota 2.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37863524]As volitile as people an be, I've run into intentional trolling like that maybe three times in Dota 2.[/QUOTE] We are talking about WC3's DotA. This is a everyday thing.