Dota 2 General Chat - I, for one, welcome our new Chinese overlords - Games

His name was colorful too.

[QUOTE=Dr.Scrake;37691988]and things like leshrac which are top picks here are not viable in hon (see: torturer)[/QUOTE] Tort is an even stronger pick, his lightning storm is just an nuke that damages 8 targets instantly and sucks them all in. It's essentially a targeted vacuum with a 6 second cooldown and double the damage.

Wow holy fuck... Guy randoms jakro but he wont swap it to me for venomancer because "i no play support only mid". I go on lane with antimage and have a great time outlaning the solo weaver, AM gets a 14 min battlefury. BUT THEN RUSSIANS puck solo lane - 0/7 guy repicks jakiro into QoP - 0/6 enemy pugna has 10 min dagon+arcanes, prophet has a 20 min sheep+orchid+midas+boots, templar with a blink and deso. they all start flaming suddenly everyone except me is russian fuck this

[QUOTE=Prism;37697778]Wow holy fuck... Guy randoms jakro but he wont swap it to me for venomancer because "i no play support only mid". I go on lane with antimage and have a great time outlaning the solo weaver, AM gets a 14 min battlefury. BUT THEN RUSSIANS puck solo lane - 0/7 guy repicks jakiro into QoP - 0/6 enemy pugna has 10 min dagon+arcanes, prophet has a 20 min sheep+orchid+midas+boots, templar with a blink and deso. they all start flaming suddenly everyone except me is russian fuck this[/QUOTE] I know this feel. I hop in a game, everyone seems friendly, then this godawful, game ruining text appears - "rus?"

Buff russians

So I queued up for a solo game and my computer BSOD'd. Obviously I should never solo queue again. It's a sign.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37697966]So I queued up for a solo game and my computer BSOD'd. Obviously I should never solo queue again. It's a sign.[/QUOTE] Matchmaking doesn't want you in soloqueue, because you will complain about soloqueue after soloqueue match.

[QUOTE=Tokagero;37698050]Matchmaking doesn't want you in soloqueue, because you will complain about soloqueue after soloqueue match.[/QUOTE] How can you not complain about solo sometimes though? Get into picking, four melee carries are instalocked. What do you do about that? I could pick Windrunner or Lina and run support and hope for the best but...how isn't that an immediate kick to the head?

[QUOTE=Banned?;37698086]How can you not complain about solo sometimes though? Get into picking, four melee carries are instalocked. What do you do about that? I could pick Windrunner or Lina and run support and hope for the best but...how isn't that an immediate kick to the head?[/QUOTE] It hurts my head when that happens. But with me its different. So they instalock 4 melee carries and I go a support. My laner doesn't talk, rest of team flames in russian. We win our lane, everyone else feeds. When i say "mid pls play safe dont die" he starts flaming me for failing (i have 0/0/2) and for having shit items( boots, wards, bracer, magic stick on minute ~10). I just dont understand how someone can be so arrogant to try and backtalk when they are being so shit. And the fact that they actually thing they are right. dgkhfdgfigfh

It's why I duo or triple queue so much. I can tell a buddy (God willing it's not the one who wants to play Bounty Hunter all the fucking time) "Hey, pick Enigma, jungle that shit and I'll play Brew and even if this team sucks we'll wreck." and can make it work or some combo like that. And if you think I'm kidding about the "plays Bounty Hunter all the time" thing, I'm not. [img]http://i.imgur.com/eMsP5.png[/img] And somehow we hold a 65.52% win rate.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37698086]How can you not complain about solo sometimes though? Get into picking, four melee carries are instalocked. What do you do about that? I could pick Windrunner or Lina and run support and hope for the best but...how isn't that an immediate kick to the head?[/QUOTE] When I see 4 instalock melee carries, I [B]don't[/B] go ahead and think "Christ, retards, do they even know this game ?!". I know this game depends on players more so than on other aspects (picks, etc, they do matter, but personal skill, knowledge and teamwork beats the hell out of best compositions), so no match is lost until an ancient falls. I just random hero, get maybe a 5th melee carry, and then I think about what are our advantages, what are disadvantages, what enemies might try, you know, I don't quit, even mentally. This is a plague among Dota community, and it applies to pretty much all of problems we currently have social-wise (racism against russians/brasilians, hostile responses towards people coming from other games of this genre, unfriendliness, excessive shit-talk, "dota1" fandom, etc). People decide to give least interest possible. If they jumped to conclusion after seeing something, it's very hard to change their mind. A player fed first blood rather easily = he is idiot. A teamfight lost with 5 vs 5 = game is lost. Player picks up item that you know mechanics don't benefit him much (ex. butterfly on Mortred) = he is idiot. Down to 1 outside tower at 20 minute mark = game is lost. This list can go on and on, and in average game of dota, every single of these thoughts, if they get in, they are unlikely to get out of average player's head. A sudden turn of events, a lucky streak, they can change it of course, but a thought usually has done it's job at least partially by then. Imagine if people didn't jump to conclusions in Dota. A bad teamfight ? A reason to lure them into perfect trap, they think they have advantage 5vs5, let's abuse their feeling of assurance! We lost a tower and 3 heroes mid ? Uneven trade, but our Riki just farmed that Diffusal, we can try and go for a quick counter-blow. These picks don't make slightest sense and enemies got Prophet, Chen, Leshrac, Anti-Mage and Crystal Maiden ? Toss a coin and pick. Heads = you invent new meta with your team, Tails = you outplay them Dendi style. It's difficult to do this without having such mindset beforehand, at least I think so, but believe me, because I am that naiive that I believe in this, I barely ever have games I regret playing. What's possibly a secondary problem of this issue (I think this sentence doesn't make sense, correct me if I am wrong) is that people think they are unlike that, "I don't jump to conclusions easily"-kind, but there are still situations that break them. A particular event does make them hastily judge situation/person, and their belief that their thought is justified seals the deal. It might be hard to believe, but even the biggest asshole might be convined to change his ways, even in a match of online video game via text chat. If you try to do so and fail, it's only natural and you shouldn't be discouraged.

accurate explanation as to how to play nightstalker [img]http://i.imgur.com/S2LUT.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=l l;37698363]accurate explanation as to how to play nightstalker [img]http://i.imgur.com/S2LUT.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] What if you run out of people to rape at night ? Happens.

rape the creeps

*farm even faster

[img]http://i.imgur.com/hcfiM.png[/img] Shoulda fucking taken my computers advice and stayed the fuck away from Dota 2. Hey Lone Druid how the fuck do you lose a solo as [I]Lone Druid?[/I]

[QUOTE=Banned?;37698471] how the fuck do you lose a solo as [I]Lone Druid?[/I][/QUOTE] you have the micro skills of a toddler e: i enjoy bad micro especially with chen and visage players.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37698471][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hcfiM.png[/IMG] Shoulda fucking taken my computers advice and stayed the fuck away from Dota 2. Hey Lone Druid how the fuck do you lose a solo as [I]Lone Druid?[/I][/QUOTE] Ganks by Night Stalker ? No lucky Entangle = dead. Btw, does Silence keep entangle from proccing ? Also, if not, does Doom work then ? I know it's probably a waste to use Doom/Silence on a bear, but I'd love to know.

[QUOTE=Tokagero;37698577]Ganks by Night Stalker ? No lucky Entangle = dead. Btw, does Silence keep entangle from proccing ? Also, if not, does Doom work then ? I know it's probably a waste to use Doom/Silence on a bear, but I'd love to know.[/QUOTE] He never got ganked by Night Stalker. He fed Spectre 5 or 6 kills in 10 min. No Silence doesn't stop passives but Doom does. It also stops items and is the only silence to do so.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37698594]He never got ganked by Night Stalker. He fed Spectre 5 or 6 kills in 10 min. No Silence doesn't stop passives but Doom does. It also stops items and is the only silence to do so.[/QUOTE] Not all passive get disabled by Doom, I remember reading somewhere about it. *But I managed to find thread dedicated to Doom on playdota. Yup, Entangle and Demolish get disabled. Worth remembering I think, entangle can win a teamfight, or at least make for a lot of trouble. If there is no caster that is farmed enough to be dangerous, Bear is valiable target.

Honestly, there is a point where the bear is more important than the Druid.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37698678]Honestly, there is a point where the bear is more important than the Druid.[/QUOTE] The bear is more dangerous than the druid earlygame, but when it comes to lategame they become partly equal, but Sylla is a bit over the bear then. (He has the active spells, Rabid and Battlecry, otherwise the bear would be stronger)

Rubick has got to be the funnest hero, feels so satisfying to steal a big ultimate or something.

[QUOTE=Banned?;37698594]It also stops items and is the only silence to do so.[/QUOTE] I thought Silencer`s ult does that too?

Syllabear is my favorite hero to lane with, I never jungle because he has such strong potential early game to rack up kills. Once I hit level 5 I just send my bear at anyone, land a proc and autoattack them since Syllabear hits like a truck earlygame compared to other heroes. The whole "he won't proc on me" mentality gets me so many first bloods and angry antimages crying about luck when they risk 10+ bear hits trying their luck thinking they can blink away. Then when there's only one disable on my lane I'm unkillable because you either stun my bear and I run or you stun me and my bear attacks you. By endgame they call Sylla OP because they're too stupid to focus and harass the squishy druid early game and just try to fight the bear that has 2k hp but does little damage.

nah silencer's is just a vanilla silence afaik if it was a true silence he would be a better hero

[QUOTE=dual elites;37699112]nah silencer's is just a vanilla silence afaik if it was a true silence he would be a better hero[/QUOTE] It is a true silence. Doom is it's own category, it's not "beefed up silence". It's like saying Stuns are beefed up snares. Silencer's Ultimate is silence on everything (including creeps) everywhere for 5 seconds. People underestimate it greatly, mostly because it's hard to use it properly. Timing is critical there, and too many people go for easy "disrupt fight a bit" by casting it mid-fight, where right-clicks already matter because a lot of spells has been casted, and not so many go for initiation approach, where you get strong initiator and Silencer. Let's say Enigma. With silencer there is very little chance someone will interrupt him. Cast it 1 second before Enigma goes in and even Vengeful Spirit won't do shit, unless she managed to afford BKB and didn't pop it before Global Silence hit (it removes silence, if BKB is active = silence goes through).

Okay, who's ready for Tonight's the Night: Take Two?

Last week I thought it'd be Meepo + Magnataur, but now I actually begin to think it will only be meepo, or meepo + slark.

[QUOTE=Jzzb;37699901]Okay, who's ready for Tonight's the Night: Take Two?[/QUOTE] What, it's in 2 days.