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[QUOTE=WarRage333;37829690]If hes not doing great at farming / let carries farm (LIKE THEY SHOULD) why not get vlads??? Bonus damage + life steal for melee?[/QUOTE] 1. He had 50 last hits, so its not anything to do with farming. Vlads cost over 2000$, and that's a good chunk of his dosh. 2. Shadow fiend is ranged

[QUOTE=Suttles;37829983]1. He had 50 last hits, so its not anything to do with farming. Vlads cost over 2000$, and that's a good chunk of his dosh. 2. Shadow fiend is ranged[/QUOTE] Yeah lets ignore the bonus damage and tiny with sceptre and mjnoalfjirnajgffir also 5 armor is bad too right

[QUOTE=WarRage333;37830007]Yeah lets ignore the bonus damage and tiny with sceptre and mjnoalfjirnajgffir also 5 armor is bad too right[/QUOTE] It's not bad, I never said that. I'm just saying its not helping their main carry, which is what you said it did. It's a helpful aura, and I'm sure tiny and dark seer benefited from it.

[QUOTE=titopei;37824951]Is that just the most effective way to play the game?[/QUOTE] just to put it into perspective for you, players have literally been banned by riot for deviating from the One True Formula

[QUOTE=dual elites;37830074]just to put it into perspective for you, players have literally been banned by riot for deviating from the One True Formula[/QUOTE]There was a moment where Pendragon banned a player for randoming during ranked play and congratulated a Riot member on Twitter for winning a ranked game as randomed Annie. Anyway, what's involved in the Shadow Fiend Challenge? Is it to aim to get 100 last hits/denies by x minutes?

[QUOTE=SgtWoodsy;37830183]There was a moment where Pendragon banned a player for randoming during ranked play and congratulated a Riot member on Twitter for winning a ranked game as randomed Annie. Anyway, what's involved in the Shadow Fiend Challenge? Is it to aim to get 100 last hits/denies by x minutes?[/QUOTE] Lane for 10 minutes solo. At the end of 10 minutes add up your last hits and denies. Good players get 100 total.

[QUOTE=IrishBandit;37825571]He says all carries just right click their way to victory, including those.[/QUOTE] If that's his definition of a carry then of course there are no caster carries, what is he even talking about

[QUOTE=dual elites;37830074]just to put it into perspective for you, players have literally been banned by riot for deviating from the One True Formula[/QUOTE] You also get banned for randoming in ranked matches. At least if you are matched with pendragon.

[QUOTE=Shibbey;37830254]Lane for 10 minutes solo. At the end of 10 minutes add up your last hits and denies. Good players get 100 total.[/QUOTE] highest score is 82/82 for 164 cs total

[QUOTE=SgtWoodsy;37830183]Anyway, what's involved in the Shadow Fiend Challenge? Is it to aim to get 100 last hits/denies by x minutes?[/QUOTE] 50 last hits at 10 minutes

[quote] reddit 6.75 stuff [/quote] Big changes. IceFrog. Valve. Roshan.Gets.A.Big.Ass.Hat. I called it.

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What a shamefull display of a match yesterday... Me as PA and Lanaya were the only carries, but we were doing exceptionaly good at start, being able to gank whoever we wanted and get the kill. My critical hits were literaly tearing off people's faces to the point of weaver not being able to keep up and go invisible on time. Had a pretty nice laning phase, and rubick helped me A LOT through it. What I did notice early on is that we didn't attack the top radiant tower for a long time, but that was just the start... Everything went to shit when their Axe got blade mail. I went from a really nice score of 20ish kills and maybe 5 deaths, to some 25 kills and 12 deaths. I could almost tank and kill him even though he activated his blade mail and reflect my own crits on me, but then spectre joined in and yaaay more reflected damage... Then they had a lich who got some sick ultis on her and that really teared our asses in two... They all got so fed that we couldn't do anything to them. I remember attacking lich and feeling like I was slowed down by a viper's lv3 ulti or a dazzle's best slow. Our lanaya sorta got shut down right at 12 kills even though she had HoT and I was dumb and didn't go for bkb soon enough. Rest of the team was too soft to fight head on against anything even though they had some nice nukes. It could have been an early win, but we turtled for kills and that was a mistake. Say, would PA do good mid? Early level 6, maybe bigger gold advantage aswell if not too harassed, could gank top/bot and make use of that crit?...

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[QUOTE=dass;37830609]What a shamefull display of a match yesterday... Me as PA and Lanaya were the only carries, but we were doing exceptionaly good at start, being able to gank whoever we wanted and get the kill. My critical hits were literaly tearing off people's faces to the point of weaver not being able to keep up and go invisible on time. Had a pretty nice laning phase, and rubick helped me A LOT through it. What I did notice early on is that we didn't attack the top radiant tower for a long time, but that was just the start... Everything went to shit when their Axe got blade mail. I went from a really nice score of 20ish kills and maybe 5 deaths, to some 25 kills and 12 deaths. I could almost tank and kill him even though he activated his blade mail and reflect my own crits on me, but then spectre joined in and yaaay more reflected damage... Then they had a lich who got some sick ultis on her and that really teared our asses in two... They all got so fed that we couldn't do anything to them. I remember attacking lich and feeling like I was slowed down by a viper's lv3 ulti or a dazzle's best slow. Our lanaya sorta got shut down right at 12 kills even though she had HoT and I was dumb and didn't go for bkb soon enough. Rest of the team was too soft to fight head on against anything even though they had some nice nukes. It could have been an early win, but we turtled for kills and that was a mistake. Say, would PA do good mid? Early level 6, maybe bigger gold advantage aswell if not too harassed, could gank top/bot and make use of that crit?...[/QUOTE] PA solomid is as valiable as any hero, thing is, can she abuse that as more popular solomids ? Ganking, runecontroll and dominating enemy mid are main aspects here. Notice how farming is not, because even though mid delivers a lot of farm if stayed at it is also open to ganks, often an area of a lot of focus for teamfights and in good distance to gank both enemy lanes and jungle. Ganking and runecontroll are covered by Stiffling Dagger to certain extent, so I'd give PA a boon here. However, dominating enemy as melee hero with rather weak, although long range and spammable damage but without escape methods or survivability other than dodge or blink to target might be hard. Invoker middle lane can easily uppercut you with early exort, while hero like Pudge will make you unable to last-hit early aside for Dagger kills. And early will matter. If you stay and farm there, as "usual" PA, you are giving up strong mid ganker that has to be repalced by maybe easylane Night Stalker or roamer (VS or such). If you farm some advantange (quick phase, poormans, bottle, urn?) and then go ganking with your awesome slow and blink, you are not farming, but if you gank enough, you will get a lot of gold which you can transform into either bkb with battlefury for super-farm mid game, or bkb and damage (mkb ?) for more ganking and teamfights. Maybe even skip BKB if enemy lineup doesn't require it. Now, if you do go ganking a lot, you don't posses that much utility and taking down towers yourself, unlike mid Lesh or such, i.e. your ganks won't result in territorial advantage if lane you ganked doesn't have strong pushers. As you can see, there is a lot of factors here. Any hero can make a good mid hero if rest of the game suits it.

[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;37830693]Companion cube courier?[/QUOTE] No other item got added, so I'm fairly certain it's just gonna be a random item inside. Like a free item drop.

[QUOTE=Suttles;37830035]It's not bad, I never said that. I'm just saying its not helping their main carry, which is what you said it did. It's a helpful aura, and I'm sure tiny and dark seer benefited from it.[/QUOTE] It does, though. People seem to think vlads is only for unique attack mod carries and rarely get it. But it gives good damage, regen of health and mana, and armor, along with the lifesteal. It's a great investment especially on the support that gets focused early and dies often since it's so easy to piece a vlads together even with total shit farm.

Laned with a Kunkka, he gets pretty low so i gave him a salve. Says fuck you bitch, so i get peeved and leave him solo. He ends up feeding and doing everything to stop us from winning, like just farming 30 mins for 2 rapiers and giving them to Morph. Luckily our BH was fed as shit so we were able to end in a pinch. Game ends, he gets banned and i find a Deathwielder. Karma's a bitch

[QUOTE=TehWoodPcker;37830895]Laned with a Kunkka, he gets pretty low so i gave him a salve. Says fuck you bitch, so i get peeved and leave him solo. He ends up feeding and doing everything to stop us from winning, like just farming 30 mins for 2 rapiers and giving them to Morph. Luckily our BH was fed as shit so we were able to end in a pinch. Game ends, he gets banned and i find a Deathwielder. Karma's a bitch[/QUOTE] he gets banned? also karma isn't real js

[QUOTE=l l;37831113]he gets banned? also karma isn't real js[/QUOTE] Well he got "punished" so most likely just low priority, but somehow i just automatically write "banned" every time.

Can you even get banned? I thought the only punishment was a low priority matchmaking pool

no you can't get banned and how does he even know it was that guy (unless its the only person he's ever reported), it doesn't tell you who it was and even then it days like a day

[QUOTE=Gar~;37831157]Can you even get banned? I thought the only punishment was a low priority matchmaking pool[/QUOTE] I believe you can. Remember that you can report Steam profile for extremely excessive kinds of bad behaviour (very rare, not your typical "fuck you" kind). But even if someone gathers enough reports from just the game, they might be removed from Beta (it is still closed). Valve does own Steam, so even if they bought Beta acess via in-game shop, they can still loose it.

[QUOTE=l l;37831170]no you can't get banned and how does he even know it was that guy (unless its the only person he's ever reported), it doesn't tell you who it was and even then it days like a day[/QUOTE] I had a report info 2 games before that or so and he was pretty much the only guy i reported after that. Also the amount of reports for that Kunkka in that game would kinda suggest so too

[QUOTE=l l;37831170]no you can't get banned[/QUOTE] You did a while ago. It was only a beta removal tho, so I don't know if we can consider that a ban.

[QUOTE=Maruhai;37831241]You did a while ago. It was only a beta removal tho, so I don't know if we can consider that a ban.[/QUOTE] He got removed from the beta? Wow.

yeah glubbable "talked to someone who knew icefrog" and got it removed because I took him off my steam friends list

Glub managed to get to talk to a Valve guy and remove Beelze from the beta because "wah wah beelze ruins games wah wah he's not kind with me". Beelze just got another key back tho.

[QUOTE=l l;37831311]yeah glubbable "talked to someone who knew icefrog" and got it removed because I took him off my steam friends list[/QUOTE] I want to say "what a baby", but I don't know the details.

[QUOTE=Da_Maniac_;37831327]I want to say "what a baby", but I don't know the details.[/QUOTE] You can, Glub went full on immature on this one.