[QUOTE=luverofJ!93;35581894]I for one, may try my hand at ePakistan. Perhaps we could recreate the ancient sand empire of Dio in the days of ye olde erepublik?[/QUOTE]
The only thing I remember clearly from ePakistan is that one of its provinces was transferred to eIndia (that doesn't exactly roll off the tongue) because it happened IRL.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35581853]But you were the head diplomat who got the messages asking for money. If you didn't oversee the transaction, who handed over the money?[/QUOTE]
And I was willing to, but Mr. President didn't reply back. So the money stayed in my pocket.
I don't know if Scientist did something else though.
About the issue of their reaction to this thread, what if we asked them whether or not they knew about what FPSK did, but word it in third-person, so that it sounds like we're not actually them, but rather bystanders of what FPSK did. We then gauge their reaction to the statement and either reveal we are them or say that's along the lines of what we're trying to do.
A bit extreme and exposing, but nevertheless.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35582171]That's what I'm hoping we could do.
You'd have to be pretty silver-tongued to pull it off though.[/QUOTE]
It'd probably need a prepared script, yeah.
[i]For more information, read this article:
[URL=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_explosion]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_explosion[/URL][/i]
[QUOTE=Pilotguy97;35582121]About the issue of their reaction to this thread, what if we asked them whether or not they knew about what FPSK did, but word it in third-person, so that it sounds like we're not actually them, but rather bystanders of what FPSK did. We then gauge their reaction to the statement and either reveal we are them or say that's along the lines of what we're trying to do.
A bit extreme and exposing, but nevertheless.[/QUOTE]
That's what I'm hoping we could do.
You'd have to be pretty silver-tongued to pull it off though.
I am soon to join this campaign, for anyone who played erep I am Khorne the Blood god, and have participated in our glorious campaigns for the sun king in eSK against the moon sick.
Ah, so the bastard's really not replying.
OK, might've thunk the silence was him taking the weekend off or something.
Also Tekgen update yer chart.
Oh boy, Latvia left VETO. Shitstorm inbound.
[QUOTE=DVH;35583551]Ah, so the bastard's really not replying.
OK, might've thunk the silence was him taking the weekend off or something.
Also Tekgen update yer chart.[/QUOTE]
I thought we agreed we wouldn't talk to them anymore for at least a few days and that it would be Monkey11, whats this about you talking to him again?
I'll update it right now.
[QUOTE=Pilotguy97;35582121]About the issue of their reaction to this thread, what if we asked them whether or not they knew about what FPSK did, but word it in third-person, so that it sounds like we're not actually them, but rather bystanders of what FPSK did. We then gauge their reaction to the statement and either reveal we are them or say that's along the lines of what we're trying to do.
A bit extreme and exposing, but nevertheless.
It'd probably need a prepared script, yeah.
For more information, read this article:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_explosion[/url][/QUOTE]
I think this is a bit rash, and that we should only show them this thread as a LAST RESORT (meaning 2-3 weeks from now at the MINIMUM once we are all mostly able to apply for citizenships and if they decline us).
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35577735]I know it's not our goal. However, that doesn't mean it won't be the perceived goal when we have people going into government positions. Showing them the thread might help prove our intentions, but it could also backfire if the Indonesian government found out and perceived us as a threat.[/QUOTE]
They will definitely perceive it as our goal to occupy government if we make any attempt to gain congressional seats.
[QUOTE=DVH;35578032]
[B]My plan[/b]
Scatter around, Lithuanians, get a citizenship in any new country, but vary it. That way, once we get in, it'll look a lot less suspicious.
You can keep working in Lith though.[/QUOTE]
[B]Your[/B] plan? For some reason I like it a lot....
However we need to know the turn-around time on citizenship application. DVH do you want to find out from the wiki or a game officer how long after you get a citizenship you have to wait to change again?
[QUOTE=yawmwen;35578116]Also, don't all apply for citizenship at once. A handful of people applying is a whole lot less suspicious than a dozen or more. Maybe we could stagger it a bit.[/QUOTE]
We should coordinate who goes when, but I think this is the best route as well.
Keep in mind we have a problem in terms of logisitics, because each congress member can only let [B]1[/B] citizen into the country for every 10 votes they received. Currently it looks like SK can only accept 18 people (only 18 congress all under 10 votes) at a time (perhaps once a month!?) and this may be why they wouldn't let us in. [url]http://wiki.e-sim.org/index.php/Citizenship[/url]
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35581374]
This also means at this point in the game we do not want to start our own party. That'll send up red flags everywhere and their paranoia meters will probably burst.[/QUOTE] I'm certain they not be happy, but we have until the 25th to decide (next congress elections).
I propose we make a small party called something innocuous (Lazy Sunday Party) using 1/3 of our current eSK members, then the other 2/3 votes twice for each of them. Keep it small. Have the party made and the congress members applied on the 24th with ~5 hours left. Then we can start letting a few people.
Even if they go apeshit at first there is nothing they can do about it. I think the proof will be to them when we make no attempt to vote on bills or change the government at all. We are just looking to let a few people in here and there. Then they will learn to trust us.
[B]
Edit: [/B] And let me qualify that I only think we should try this approach
A.) once all political avenues have been explored and closed to us
B.) because the current SK doesn't even have enough congress to let more than 1/4 of us in each month.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35577523]
And if they ask for gold, [B]just shut up and pay it.[/B] What I think is the biggest reason this whole debacle is happening is because we were hesitant to donate 10 Gold to the government organization.
That raises flags as if we we're actually committed to helping Korea out, paying such a small sum is nothing compared to how much we get in Referrer gold.
[/QUOTE]
I disagree whole-heartedly with all of this. The foundation of our relationship should not be based on bribing our way into the country.
[QUOTE=tekgen;35584128]I thought we agreed we wouldn't talk to them anymore for at least a few days and that it would be Monkey11, whats this about you talking to him again?
[/QUOTE]
The last message was sent Friday, but just ago I saw him shouting.
So it was before all the agreements, I'm still honouring those.
[QUOTE=monkey11;35584132]I disagree whole-heartedly with all of this. The foundation of our relationship should not be based on bribing our way into the country.[/QUOTE]
I think I tend to agree because I feel like they are just trying to take advantage , not actually be serious about the offer. Either way they will look on it with skepticism ("Look they paid the 10 Gold , they must really want their PTO in!" or "Look they didn't pay! So much for liking KOREA!")
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35584210]what.
[URL="http://facepunch.com/threads/1177597"]http://facepunch.com/threads/1177597[/URL][/QUOTE]
[url]http://e-sim.org/profile.html?id=103493[/url]
Looks like an establish member of e-sim somehow found our thread and is trying to profit from it.
I dont like the idea of us sneaking into the country either. The second they see that a bunch of us are friends, trust goes out the window. We need them to welcome us, or else we can never make any serious progress.
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
Also, scientist2, do someone really pay their govt or are you misinformed?
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35584210]what.
[URL="http://facepunch.com/threads/1177597"]http://facepunch.com/threads/1177597[/URL][/QUOTE]
Heh. Heh. Heh.
Copied from Scientist, only his referral has changed.
2/10 for the effort.
[QUOTE=monkey11;35584260]I dont like the idea of us sneaking into the country either. The second they see that a bunch of us are friends, trust goes out the window. We need them to welcome us, or else we can never make any serious progress.[/QUOTE]
I honestly think logistics about getting us all in are going to be a nightmare unless we have their 100% support, and even then it will be slow and painful.
I agree it would be best if they welcome us, but after a month , if they do not, what then?
We ask everyone here to hang around in country-limbo while some guy in Korean congress that just happened to get to this game a few months before we did, sits behind his computer screen , picking his nose, and feels satisfied with himself by having the power to reject us entry?
We should be patient though. We have plenty of time.
[QUOTE=tekgen;35584298]I honestly think logistics about getting us all in are going to be a nightmare unless we have their 100% support, and even then it will be slow and painful.
I agree it would be best if they welcome us, but after a month , if they do not, what then?
We ask everyone here to hang around in country-limbo while some guy in Korean congress that just happened to get to this game a few months before we did, sits behind his computer screen , picking his nose, and feels satisfied with himself by having the power to reject us entry?
We should be patient though. We have plenty of time.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. We have the better half of a month before we should even consider changing our game plan.
[QUOTE=monkey11;35584260]I dont like the idea of us sneaking into the country either. The second they see that a bunch of us are friends, trust goes out the window. We need them to welcome us, or else we can never make any serious progress.
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
Also, scientist2, do someone really pay their govt or are you misinformed?[/QUOTE]
I gave DVH 10 gold for this reason but i think he's holding back because he doesn't trust the president to do as he says after the gold has been send.
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
Also, classy of that guy to steal my op just for some referrals.
[QUOTE=Scientist2;35584445]I gave DVH 10 gold for this reason but i think he's holding back because he doesn't trust the president to do as he says after the gold has been send.[/QUOTE]
Ah, so the gold was never transferred. We can probably find a better use for it anyway.
cant we just, iunno, join forces with indonesia, take over korea and then start a war against ourselfs to cececed to korea
[QUOTE=Eltro102;35584584]cant we just, iunno, join forces with indonesia, take over korea and then start a war against ourselfs to cececed to korea[/QUOTE]
That sounds like it would be even more work than what we're doing right now.
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Scientist2;35584445]
Also, classy of that guy to steal my op just for some referrals.[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/e-sim.250146093/"]He's not the only one![/URL]
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
What the motherfuck is wrong with these people?
[QUOTE=Eltro102;35584584]cant we just, iunno, join forces with indonesia, take over korea and then start a war against ourselfs to cececed to korea[/QUOTE]
How in any sense is that helping the native population of Korea? You sir, are corrupt.
If it helps both people are have Swedish Citizinships and are from Hungary, so mahbe one guy from either a forum board or a general group has shared this thread?
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35584627]That sounds like it would be even more work than what we're doing right now.
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
[URL="http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/e-sim.250146093/"]He's not the only one![/URL]
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
What the motherfuck is wrong with these people?[/QUOTE]
I looked at both their profiles, and they are both swedish, so perhaps someone made a shout on sweden board?
[url]http://e-sim.org/article.html?id=24116[/url]
is an article by the first one that posted here, which the second one reshouts on his profile page.
So shit may or may not have hit the IKEA fan, then?
I gave out Q5 Food to our members that were close enough to Lvl 7 , the rest of you I will be offering contract(s):
50XP = (10 Q5 Food for 0.85 Gold debt )
100XP = (20 Q5 Food for 1.7 Gold debt )
150XP = (30 Q5 Food for 2.55 Gold debt )
For those that don't know:
[B]YOU ARE AUTOMATICALLY GIVEN 7 GOLD WHEN YOU REACH LEVEL 7 [/B]
[B]I will offer you a contract corresponding to how much XP you need to get to level 7, with days + extra to get there. [/B]
This is at a bit more than what it cost me, in case values drop between now and debt payback. Any/All money I make/have is used to either buy more Q5 food or otherwise further the Cause.
Anyone who wants this contract offered (all of you should, probably) add me ingame ... name = Zyros
[B]Edit: [/B]
I will only offering this contract to people or donating food to those whose names are on our list, so post your FP -> Esim here if you haven't already.
[B]Edit2: [/B]
I know adding Q5 Gifts to the contract would make it faster, but they are so much more overpriced than food (double to triple the cost), so its a big money drain. Getting to 7 just that much faster isn't really worth it in my books.
[B]Edit3: [/B]
Quite a few of you have added me in just minutes, so this is looking like it will work really well. I think I will start doing this every day around daychange (those with 100XP only have a day to wait then).
[B]Edit4: [/B]
Anyone who has excess food with the contract can either donate it back to me (always welcomed) so I can recycle it for other contracts or if you wish I'll reimburse you the proportional money you paid for the excess.
[B]Edit5: [/B]
Anyone who can't pay the debt (I make sure I give you enough food to reach level 7, so I don't know why you couldn't) let me know and I'll help you out.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35584627]That sounds like it would be even more work than what we're doing right now.
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
[URL="http://www.ign.com/boards/threads/e-sim.250146093/"]He's not the only one![/URL]
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
What the motherfuck is wrong with these people?[/QUOTE]
"The current user list is in the next post: (Thanks Hidole!)"
[b]Thanks Hidole![/b]
Why are there no battles going on? :v:
[QUOTE=tekgen;35585598]I gave out Q5 Food to our members that were close enough to Lvl 7 , the rest of you I will be offering contract(s) (10 Q5 Food for 0.85 Gold debt ) (a tiny bit more than what it cost me, in case values drop between now and debt payback)
Anyone who wants this contract offered (all of you should, probably) add me ingame ... name = Zyros
[B]Edit: [/B]
I will only offering this contract to people or donating food to those whose names are on our list, so post your FP -> Esim here if you haven't already.
[B]Edit2: [/B]
I know adding Q5 Gifts to the contract would make it faster, but they are so much more overpriced than food (double to triple the cost), so its a big money drain. Getting to 7 just that must faster isn't really worth it in my books.[/QUOTE]
I've accepted the contract. Now if only there was a fight to use the food on.
C'mon Korea! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!
[editline]Yesterday?[/editline]
Actually I still have my starting Q5 tickets, so I just flew to holland to battle. Should ding to 7 tomorrow at this rate!
[QUOTE=Pilotguy97;35586050]I've accepted the contract. Now if only there was a fight to use the food on.
C'mon Korea! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight![/QUOTE]
Q5 tickets cost ~0.25 Gold each, otherwise I'd offer them too.
[editline]15th April 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pilotguy97;35586050]
Actually I still have my starting Q5 tickets, so I just flew to holland to battle. Should ding to 7 tomorrow at this rate![/QUOTE]
1 Q5 food is usually around 0.08 gold, 1 Q1 Ticket is around 0.04 -> 0.06 . Q5's normally run at least 0.25G ea.
Unless the XP is really close to lvl7, you should just use a Q1 ticket , suffer the 4 XP hit (for the 40 lost health) and save the Q5 for a rainy day. :v:
[B]Edit:[/B]
Someone might need to loan me some gold via contract, I'm close to the limit of what I can offer people.
[QUOTE=tekgen;35586074]
Someone might need to loan me some gold via contract, I'm close to the limit of what I can offer people.[/QUOTE]
Done. Also congratulations to Hidole for reaching lvl 8!
[QUOTE=Scientist2;35587175]Done. Also congratulations to Hidole for reaching lvl 8![/QUOTE]
Thank you good sir, that will supply many more contracts!
Also scientist, let me know if you want to sell anything in netherlands (you can sell things remotely) or Korea (their import is rather low)
I also am always looking for people not in Lithuania to sell things on their local markets , so that we can skip the import tax.
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