[QUOTE=Hidole555;35649570]Good that he's helping you out, but unless he wants to help us all on his own initiative, we shouldn't go around asking people for handouts.[/QUOTE]
He is not that active, so he doesn't mind giving away food\gifts.
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I forgot to mention, it's not that he's a friend I met in-game, he is an IRL friend.
If he already wants to give, then we won't refuse it. At the same time, and this may just be my pride talking, we shouldn't ask people who aren't already prepared to give for donations. It sounds like begging to me.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35649842]If he already wants to give, then we won't refuse it. At the same time, and this may just be my pride talking, we shouldn't ask people who aren't already prepared to give for donations. It sounds like begging to me.[/QUOTE]
Like I said, he prefers eRepublik, so he doesn't mind helping. He wants to help the cause without taking an active part. Maybe this can be part of the plan tegken has, but for the less-wealthy people.
Hidole, we should because it will at least ensure that we can start letting people in soon. If not, we have to wait at least 30 days until we get another chance at congress.
If you have perfect faith in their lack of paranoia, enjoy yourself, but I don't. I do not think we (FP) can keep interest in this game until we have finally pryed a hole to pour friendship in in their minds.
Of course, the two methods aren't mutually exclusive, we can use both.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35649297]I highly doubt that the MU is using Korea. Almost every country in the game has members in a military unit in power. That doesn't mean they rule with an iron fist. If they did, there would be plenty of Newspapers in protest as they are easy to make and produce. From my perspective, they want Korea to prosper, but they are well aware of their country's relative weakness and must have used every diplomatic trick in the book to get back those regions and avoid complete annihilation. Their allies are few and weak so there is no possibility they got them back through military might alone.
Showing any signs of relative threat is a bad idea. Pointing out that we could easily take over but choose not to sounds just like an argument an Indonesian or Russian would make. To tie a dagger over their heads would make things worse. It's better to show that we are sincere in our desire to only help Korea.[/QUOTE]
we could take over another country and become very good allies to sk
[QUOTE=tekgen;35648951]Thanks for the list, but I used the food for SKers first (I based it on an XP/day higher than 20, meaning they are training+working+fighting every day.) I still have some left but I'm busy IRL today so I won't have time till later to distribute it.
in the end? We currently make up 24% of their voters. In a few days the level 6's will level and that number will rise to almost 36%. I agree we should be as peaceful as possible, but if our membership keeps increasing, eventually it will become a predominately FP country. I'm not saying that justifies taking over, and I'm not saying we should. However, if it turns out that the Korean Gov't is full of a Military Unit [I]just using[/I] Korea for their own personal little club, and do not wish for Korea to achieve [U]GLORY[/U] , then I see no need to take them into consideration, as they have no ability to stop us (once we have majority of congress, we can always let more of our people in then they can of theirs, thereby always ensuring our dominance).
An effective peaceful negotiation could perhaps be made around this fact. If we show that we could take over without them stopping us, but will not do so unless they force us to, perhaps they'll see our intentions are peaceful. On the other hand, giving them an ultimatum before congress such as 'Agree to let us in or we will run in congress and win against you' may prompt them to feel threatened, prompting them to lie to us saying they will, then allowing more of their friends into the country only so that they stand a better chance. So I'm not sure if we should show our full hand or not.
and Hidole, you can probably take me off or put me on the bottom of that list. I'm happy in LTL until all our other members are through because their market trades in high volumes and as an LTL'er I don't pay import tax (it would cripple my sales otherwise). I can always join a bit later after I've made mad $$$.[/QUOTE]
I forgot to include an addendum excluding cooperation if they are simply not willing to respond to us at all. But for now our modus operandi is peace because we may have 100 people and be able to kick them out politically, but with them we would have 150 people and be on a stronger road to glory with more people rather than less.
When Facepunch last entered South Korea in Erepublik we united together with many of the existing South Koreans and our nation became stronger from that and we gained many friendships that enabled us to do far better than if we had just created another power regime. I'd like to achieve something similar here.
On the flipside, we need to secure an arrangement before any of our compatriots start losing interest.
Ok then, just signed up as Necrogear. Guess i'm Korean now.
[QUOTE=DVH;35650280]Hidole, we should because it will at least ensure that we can start letting people in soon. If not, we have to wait at least 30 days until we get another chance at congress.
If you have perfect faith in their lack of paranoia, enjoy yourself, but I don't. I do not think we (FP) can keep interest in this game until we have finally pryed a hole to pour friendship in in their minds.
Of course, the two methods aren't mutually exclusive, we can use both.[/QUOTE]
What you call paranoia I call rational fear and I am fully aware of it. Here is the problem: For the time being, until we convince them to let our people in, the country is on lockdown to foreigners. If the new congress rolls in and one of them sees a rogue congressman (our man) letting people into the country, then their fears will only be exacerbated, causing the Koreans to hate us. The [B]opposite[/B] of what we want. My method circumvents their paranoia and presents us in a manner that shows just what we want to do: Help Korea.
This looks interesting, I liked eRepublik quite a bit, count me in on this. I read through the OP and a couple of posts on this page, is there anything that I should definitely be aware of? e-sim username is the same as here, AxisKiller.
[QUOTE=AxisKiller;35651735]This looks interesting, I liked eRepublik quite a bit, count me in on this. I read through the OP and a couple of posts on this page, is there anything that I should definitely be aware of? e-sim username is the same as here, AxisKiller.[/QUOTE]
[B]Sparknotes version of this thread so far:[/B]
[U]
What you should do[/U]
-Join South Korea
-Don't mention Facepunch anywhere
-Try to get a job at Glorious Foods/Grains (Ours), if you can't, get whatever else is on the market.
-Train/Work everyday and try to fight if there are battles.
-Save money for our mutual cause.
-Only buy Q1 food, don't buy gifts, we are setting up ways to get higher Q food to our people for cheap.
-Don't use starting tickets unless you have to.
[U]What we are doing[/U]
-Still deciding roles for everyone.
-Trying to get our Lithuanians into Korea.
-Debating the finer points of politics.
-Being patient because we already upset the current regime in SK a bit.
-Waiting (read: Being Patient) for Monkey11 to reach successful peaceful negotiations w/ current regime.
[U]Other things you may consider doing:[/U]
-Opening a newspaper and writing some articles.
-Reading top articles to see whats going in the world.
-Friending me in game so I can send you food contracts.
Addendum:
[h2]Don't mention FP[/h2]
I fired off a mail to Scientist2 about the FP companies like the OP said, since they weren't on the market at the moment. I'll friend you in a moment, though.
And there we go, in the food company. Thanks Scientist.
Guys.. I've been thinking about something.
What if South Korea would indeed be ruled by that MU. What if their leaders really don't want the best for Korea? If that is the case they won't even help us if we would manage to get into South Korea. They would just leave or do their best to ruin our plans.
This is just a thought and just one of the possible scenarios to unfold but it does worry me.
Well, the fact they do not want us in even if we help the Korean economy implies that they don't want Korea to be a "cool place", a territory that people would move into, like Lithuania at the moment. It's their base of operations, they want to keep it to themselves and they do not want foreign countries to want those territories.
The country is clearly ruled by an MU, more than 60% of the congress is part of the MU and let me quote something: "Elite Figters is part of Korea !"
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Also, I propose that the newspaper's name should be "Dear Reader Dairy"
[QUOTE=Scientist2;35652133]Guys.. I've been thinking about something.
What if South Korea would indeed be ruled by that MU. What if their leaders really don't want the best for Korea? If that is the case they won't even help us if we would manage to get into South Korea. They would just leave or do their best to ruin our plans.
This is just a thought and just one of the possible scenarios to unfold but it does worry me.[/QUOTE]
If they didn't want the best for Korea, where's the outcry? Where's the lament of a nation being used? Most of all, how would they get elected in the first place?
Even assuming that the people in power care only about themselves and not Korea, what would they do? Think how leadership in a country could be exploited. The impression I'm geting is that people think Korea is ruled by some Junta, when given the current mechanics of e-sim, that is not the case.
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[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;35652297]Well, the fact they do not want us in even if we help the Korean economy implies that they don't want Korea to be a "cool place", a territory that people would move into, like Lithuania at the moment. It's their base of operations, they want to keep it to themselves and they do not want foreign countries to want those territories.
The country is clearly ruled by an MU, more than 60% of the congress is part of the MU and let me quote something: "Elite Figters is part of Korea !"
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Also, I propose that the newspaper's name should be "Dear Reader Dairy"[/QUOTE]
They don't want us in because a giant wad of Lithuanians trying to get into the country seems pretty damn suspicious. See things from their point of view. They can't just take our word for it. Their country's independence could be at stake. They need proof of our sincerity. Something monkey is working on showing them as we discuss this.
There aren't many Korean citizens, and the majority of them is part of the MU. They get free Q5 food and Q5 weapons from the MU, they don't work locally, they just fight.
The fact that they are not working at all means they are not concerned about SK at all. They are just stationed here.
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Also, I am in need of 170hp worth of gifts, could someone send me some?
[QUOTE=VistaPOWA;35652475]There aren't many Korean citizens, and the majority of them is part of the MU. They get free Q5 food and Q5 weapons from the MU, they don't work locally, they just fight.
The fact that they are not working at all means they are not concerned about SK at all. They are just stationed here.
[editline]20th April 2012[/editline]
Also, I am in need of 170hp worth of gifts, could someone send me some?[/QUOTE]
The reason they don't work there is because the Korean economy [B]sucks.[/B] That's why strengthening the economy is one of our goals, so people have a [B]reason[/B] to be a part of it. We're one of the few groups going into an economy while the rest are flying out. And in your previous post:
[QUOTE]
The country is clearly ruled by an MU, more than 60% of the congress is part of the MU and let me quote something: "Elite Figters is part of Korea !"[/QUOTE]
What is the logic here? Being part of a MU gives clear, established benefits. It gives needed organization in wars and damage bonuses. When you are responsible for your country's fate there's no reason [B]not[/B] to have a MU loyal to the state, which is what "Elite Figters is part of Korea !" means. It's an expression of loyalty, not an expression of dominance.
I have created a new South Korean Newspaper.
[img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/32793717/CommunalNewspaper.png[/img]
It is called the Korean Communal Newspaper. It is a different style of newspaper, in that it features content and articles written by the public. Hopefully it will work out and not fail, as it requires people to become active with it. I would love if you all join and help.
Oh SHIT.
I work for some Lithuanian company, paying me 13.3 LTL for my level 4 work experience, which is 0.50 LTL more than the current salary for that level, and the place it is located in, Silesia, was captured by Poland. What do?
I know we said earlier that we should all have personal papers, but I kinda like the idea of having one big superpaper that we all work on instead. It would mean less chances of diplicate articles between papers and a more efficient workplace overall.
[url]http://e-sim.org/article.html?id=25566[/url]
[QUOTE=Gnomical;35652982][url]http://e-sim.org/article.html?id=25566[/url][/QUOTE]
Lithuanians refrain from posting. Koreans only for now. Sorry but this is to ensure the newspaper remains a trusted source by native Koreans.
Aside from that, very well done. Bravo.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35653021]Lithuanians refrain from posting. Koreans only for now. Sorry but this is to ensure the newspaper remains a trusted source by native Koreans.[/QUOTE]
Yes this was my point all along. “Whoever controls the media, controls the mind”. Also, I thought it would be fun.
[QUOTE=Holy Altnir;35652929]Oh SHIT.
I work for some Lithuanian company, paying me 13.3 LTL for my level 4 work experience, which is 0.50 LTL more than the current salary for that level, and the place it is located in, Silesia, was captured by Poland. What do?[/QUOTE]
There should be no problem. You should be able to still work there.
It looks like the UK is aspiring to be Great Britain again.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35653054]There should be no problem. You should be able to still work there.[/QUOTE]
It tells me that I can't work for a company not located in my country.
I'll also be level 9 tomorrow, could've spent more money on Q5 bread but decided to save it for when we migrate.
[QUOTE=Holy Altnir;35653337]It tells me that I can't work for a company not located in my country.[/QUOTE]
I guess you'll just have to get another job then. Sorry. That's war for you.
Shit sux why am I taxed 50% on my wage in lithuania, supposed to make 13.3 $ end up making 6.65. wth
Can people see what newspapers we vote on/who voted on what newspapers?
Edit: Also, the guy with the korean newspaper should probably remove his Lithuania friends, or they might get suspicious.
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