this is what causes piracy.
IN MY OPIGNONON
Games should be in the pocket-money range, but you still pay the full price over time (eg 60$ (or around £44 here), 5$ a month for 12 months, so you get the game now when it comes out (as people say " I WANNNNA HAVE IT NOOOOOWWWW", or if thats too long then 5$ a month for the first few months then the payment gets bigger or something)
This would actually curb piracy
as long as Direct2Drive keeps having these 20-25% off sales for everything, I don't mind.
D2D is shit because you can't mod their versions of the games.
It's so more people pirate so they have an excuse to stop making PC games.
[QUOTE=Takoto;28184614]It's so more people pirate so they have an excuse to stop making PC games.[/QUOTE]
this is a conspiracy theory which might actually be true!
[QUOTE=Samiam22;28161310]He JUST SAID don't post stuff like that.
Can't you READ[/QUOTE]
But it's true, so theres no need to be a dickhead
[QUOTE=Eltro102;28184976]this is a conspiracy theory which might actually be true![/QUOTE]
It is true, its easier to develop for consoles because they have identical hardware, and companies like EA are lazy, greedy, cunts.
[QUOTE=SoaringScout;28180837]I doubt that changing the PC game price to $50 will cause a problem for their business. They make perfectly enough money already.[/QUOTE]
Really wish ppl would actually research their shit before saying stuff like this.
[url]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Video-Game-Sales-Decline-in-zacks-3332226628.html?x=0&.v=1[/url]
VG sales have been going down in sales for 2 years now. Pretty much every sector has declined since 2009 except for used games (which repeated buyings do not give money to the developer or publisher), digital downloads, smart phone games (lol), and social games.
This is a decline of well over a billion dollars. Video game production costs have only gone up in the past 2 years.
Most companies that aren't your Activisions with their CoDs, your Blizzards with their WoWs, and Valves with their Steam platform, barely break even.
If they made "perfectly enough money", they wouldn't increase the price of the product.
Inflation. Look it up. /thread.
It's an extra $10, shut the fuck up, you're paying less than UK, £3 less, not alot but it's still less.
[QUOTE=Partyprime;28165150][IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/FSGQJ.jpg[/IMG_thumb]
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/6xXU8.png[/img_thumb]
Taken from the cheapest game store in sweden.
Getting dumb for showing that sweden has expensive games already, derp.[/QUOTE]
That's because we, and americans still believe that 10SEK=$1 by some reason.
[QUOTE=Alvaldi;28182406]You were going to buy the game regardless, so why set it at a lower price and lose money?
And how did you get Crysis 2 cheaper than Portal 2.[/QUOTE]
I'm not gonna buy Portal 2 until it's a bit cheaper. And I got Crysis from Game.co.uk where Portal 2 costs more than all the other PC games I ever bought there.
I'm not surprised, since this is EA we're talking about here.
[QUOTE=Ranik;28185183]Really wish ppl would actually research their shit before saying stuff like this.
[url]http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Video-Game-Sales-Decline-in-zacks-3332226628.html?x=0&.v=1[/url]
VG sales have been going down in sales for 2 years now. Pretty much every sector has declined since 2009 except for used games (which repeated buyings do not give money to the developer or publisher), digital downloads, smart phone games (lol), and social games.
This is a decline of well over a billion dollars. Video game production costs have only gone up in the past 2 years.
Most companies that aren't your Activisions with their CoDs, your Blizzards with their WoWs, and Valves with their Steam platform, barely break even.
If they made "perfectly enough money", they wouldn't increase the price of the product.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure the increasing digital sales don't make up most of the lost retail sales?
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;28161317]Yeah, but that's Australian money nobody cares about.[/QUOTE]
shut yer trap
100 Australian dollars = 100.9700 US dollars
I honestly don't care about the price increase. If it means more and better games on PC because publishers can make more money off the platform then I am fine with it. It's just $10 anyway.
Oh no we get games cheaper than everyone else but we still complain and just call people dumb when they state the truth
[quote=clanratc;28185697]i honestly don't care about the price increase. If it means more and [b]better[/b] games on pc because publishers can make more money off the platform then i am fine with it. It's just $10 anyway.[/quote]
lol
[QUOTE=Doomish;28161262]Reminds me of when my high school raised the prices on all lunch items five cents and left 200+ students unable to afford lunch until their parents learned of the change.
Their explanation for raising the price was that the district needed more funding to build another Junior High. Like most game publishers/developers, they became money grubbing bastards.[/QUOTE]
This except it was 10p yearly.
[QUOTE=Robber;28185660]Are you sure the increasing digital sales don't make up most of the lost retail sales?[/QUOTE]
Used games + digital + smart phone + social games rose from 15.4 billion to 15.6 billion. (.2 billion increase). In 2009, all software sales combined was 10.5 billion, but in 2010 this fell down further to 10.1 billion (.4 billion decrease). So no, they didn't make up for anything.
Companies still charge retail price on digital downloads because of retailer pressure (threats to drop their products entirely if they do not put up retail price pretty much), so retail still means a ton and it's not good that it's falling. It's good that digital sales are increasing because the companies see more money and what not (Valve takes ~30% cut on Steam, the whole retail process when its said and done takes about ~50% cut and when it comes to consoles has massive issues with used game sales that digital doesn't), but they didn't increase enough and retail went down by pretty bad last year.
This year isn't looking any better either, the same sectors are going to continue to go down and the same sectors are going to continue to go up but not high enough. Industry is stuck in a decline atm, companies are trying ideas to fix it (Project Ten Dollar, 60$ pc games, dlc strategies, etc) because this is becoming similar to the 1983 industry crash.
[QUOTE=Ranik;28185829]Used games + digital + smart phone + social games rose from 15.4 billion to 15.6 billion. (.2 billion increase).[/QUOTE]
That's got to be bullshit:
[url=http://consumerelectron.com/steam-ahead-par-with-200-percent-sales-increase-last-year/]Steam sales increased 200%[/url]
[url=http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/18/rim_nokia_and_googles_android_battle_for_apples_ios_scraps_as_app_market_sales_grow_to_2_2_billion.html]160% increase in smartphone app sales; Android Market sales increase 860%[/url]
I can't find any numbers on social games growth, but all the articles describe it as "rapid" or "explosive".
[QUOTE=clanratc;28185697]I honestly don't care about the price increase. If it means more and better games on PC because publishers can make more money off the platform then I am fine with it. It's just $10 anyway.[/QUOTE]
It's not gonna change anything at all. It's inflation. Basic economics here people. We get more money so they want more money from us. The only thing changing here is the size of the numbers, but the fraction of your monthly pay will be the same in the longer scope of things.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;28186263]It's not gonna change anything at all. It's inflation. Basic economics here people. We get more money so they want more money from us. The only thing changing here is the size of the numbers, but the fraction of your monthly pay will be the same in the longer scope of things.[/QUOTE]
The price is the same on both consoles and PC, when normally it's cheaper on PC because of the console royalties.
nothing to do with inflation, stop repeating that.
[QUOTE=thrawn2787;28161387]I feel for you guys I really do, but this conversation is really a US thing. Besides aren't you guys paying for these titles too?
Portal 2 isn't $60 though. Infact it's [b]$45[/b] on Amazon AND steam.[/QUOTE]
It's because of the Tier bullshit. Italy is in Tier2, so € is properly translated to $, here it costs 34€ (37 when preorder ends )
As far as I can remember, every newly released game has always been $60.
[QUOTE=Sharker;28186502]As far as I can remember, every newly released game has always been $60.[/QUOTE]
Then you must not have bought any PC games in the past, 8-10 years or so?
[QUOTE=Robber;28186215]That's got to be bullshit:
[url=http://consumerelectron.com/steam-ahead-par-with-200-percent-sales-increase-last-year/]Steam sales increased 200%[/url]
[url=http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/11/02/18/rim_nokia_and_googles_android_battle_for_apples_ios_scraps_as_app_market_sales_grow_to_2_2_billion.html]160% increase in smartphone app sales; Android Market sales increase 860%[/url]
I can't find any numbers on social games growth, but all the articles describe it as "rapid" or "explosive".[/QUOTE]
This is a finance report posted on Yahoo and tons of other credited sites that you can easily find via google. It isn't "bullshit". It's the actual numbers.
We're talking about a 200 million USD increase here from the prev year in just this tiny sector, even increases in big parts of the market don't mean everything, you have to look at the whole market (there are other digital providers than Steam who did much much worse for example)
Rapid/explosive are mostly just hyperbolic words. They did do well though.
For every thing you can mention that did really well, there's about 20 other things that did worse and have been doing worse for 2 years now.
Going back to the topic at hand, this is how EA can justify it. It's an attempt to make their sector more profitable, just an idea. If you guys don't like that, don't pay for it, it's how capitalism works. They'll try other ideas if it doesn't work well. They have to do something tho, this decline on most of the industry isn't magically going to go away doods.
[QUOTE=certified;28162212]I need to ask, why are games in Australia so expensive? Is your corrupt government forcing publishers to put high prices to deter people from buying INSIDIOUS TERRORIST TRAINING SIMULATORS DESIGNED FOR CHILDREN.
[editline]20th February 2011[/editline]
I mean, after all, the Australian dollar is worth more than USD.[/QUOTE]
It's because most Australians make much more money than the Americans. So everything is much more expensive there.
[QUOTE=moffe;28165721]games in norway costs 120 dollars + so quit your whining[/QUOTE]
No, they dont.
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