"Here's your new game - Wait 5 months for the rest of it in DLC!" - Games

THE FUTURE OF VIDEO GAME MARKETING 1. Produce the game. 2. Cut out half of it. 3. Release the remaining part for 60$ as the OFFICIAL FULL GAME GUISE!!! 5. A week later retrieve said data and put it out as a DLC bundle for the low, low price of 30$. Also, where exactly do developers "save" their game-in-progress?

[QUOTE=Excalibursin-X;22275698]THE FUTURE OF VIDEO GAME MARKETING 1. Produce the game. 2. Cut out half of it. 3. Release the remaining part for 60$ as the OFFICIAL FULL GAME GUISE!!! 5. A week later retrieve said data and put it out as a DLC bundle for the low, low price of 30$. Also, where exactly do developers "save" their game-in-progress?[/QUOTE] Why is it so hard to accept that they made the game, and decided that they wanted to add more. If anything, you should praise them for their continued efforts to bring you entertainment.

[QUOTE=NINTENDUDECT;22275603]RDR doesn't even NEED DLC. It's already a fucking amazingly complete game. These will just be a plus.[/QUOTE] Exactly. Also, OP, all of the DLC's are adding to the multiplayer experience, saying the game itself is "unfinished" is pretty... stupid. If you were complaining about Bioshock 2 where they HAD the content on the Disc already, sure, but complaining about a game that IS finished and just ADDING to the experience is... silly?

Theres usually a 8 week period after the game goes gold(master copy distributed to manufactures) so now they get to make whatever they want for the game until its released. Also stop blaming developers its publishers and there parent companies.

[QUOTE=Xionasis;22275718]Why is it so hard to accept that they made the game, and decided that they wanted to add more. If anything, you should praise them for their continued efforts to bring you entertainment.[/QUOTE] Continued efforts? Hahaha. Look at Infinity Ward, all of their higher up staff are gone thanks to Modern Warfare 2, and you know what? They're putting out another 15 dollar map pack! 15 dollars for something players should have the tools to make themselves by now... Honestly, the community is what keeps a game alive, and if you don't give the community a chance to create their own content, your game dies.

[QUOTE=Excalibursin-X;22275698]THE FUTURE OF VIDEO GAME MARKETING 1. Produce the game. 2. Cut out half of it. 3. Release the remaining part for 60$ as the OFFICIAL FULL GAME GUISE!!! 5. A week later retrieve said data and put it out as a DLC bundle for the low, low price of 30$. Also, where exactly do developers "save" their game-in-progress?[/QUOTE] If you've been in the Industry and SEEN this happen, sure. You have NO evidence to back that up, so quit crying, and enjoy the fucking game. :/ [editline]06:59PM[/editline] [QUOTE=dragon1972;22275747]Continued efforts? Hahaha. Look at Infinity Ward, all of their higher up staff are gone thanks to Modern Warfare 2, and you know what? They're putting out another 15 dollar map pack! 15 dollars for something players should have the tools to make themselves by now... Honestly, the community is what keeps a game alive, and if you don't give the community a chance to create their own content, your game dies.[/QUOTE] I think you'll find MANY PC games do allow this, it's the Console games that can't really do this, except for Farcry 2 and some other ones. :/

[QUOTE=dragon1972;22275747]Continued efforts? Hahaha. Look at Infinity Ward, all of their higher up staff are gone thanks to Modern Warfare 2, and you know what? They're putting out another 15 dollar map pack! 15 dollars for something players should have the tools to make themselves by now... Honestly, the community is what keeps a game alive, and if you don't give the community a chance to create their own content, your game dies.[/QUOTE] Infinity Ward and Modern Warfare 2 are not shining examples, and I never said they were. Generalizing based off of one out of the many is ignorant.

The DLC is free and the game will always remain fun and awesome. What's the problem again?

He isn't talking about Red Dead only, he just used the in-box promotion as an example.

Breaking news; To save your game in RDR you need to buy a DLC for the cheap price of $10! Don't like the price? Well just for you, we'll throw in an extra DLC for the cheap, cheap price of $30! That's $20 value for only $30! BUY IT NOW! :derp:

Something that bugs me is that a game comes out, a shit load of DLC is released for it, and then they just release the Game of the Year/Gold edition less than a year later with all the DLC packed in. A good example would be Fallout 3. You could have bought the game when it came out for 60 dollars, and spent an additional 50 dollars for DLC, or you could just wait a bit and buy the game + all the DLC for 60 dollar. I feel like Mass Effect 2 is going to do it with the mass amounts of DLC they have coming out. It just kind of pisses me off that gamers who are loyal to the developers/series and buy the game on Day 1 get screwed over by having to pay for a ton more DLC that people who buy it later are going to get for free.

That is like complaining about how games decrease in price over time.

[QUOTE=Grim Joker;22276429]Something that bugs me is that a game comes out, a shit load of DLC is released for it, and then they just release the Game of the Year/Gold edition less than a year later with all the DLC packed in. A good example would be Fallout 3. You could have bought the game when it came out for 60 dollars, and spent an additional 50 dollars for DLC, or you could just wait a bit and buy the game + all the DLC for 60 dollar. I feel like Mass Effect 2 is going to do it with the mass amounts of DLC they have coming out. It just kind of pisses me off that gamers who are loyal to the developers/series and buy the game on Day 1 get screwed over by having to pay for a ton more DLC that people who buy it later are going to get for free.[/QUOTE] This is to make it easier for some who buys the game later, instead of buying it and buying 10 different DLC's.

[QUOTE=xDrTran;22276464]This is to make it easier for some who buys the game later, instead of buying it and buying 10 different DLC's.[/QUOTE] But why should it be easier and cheaper for someone who buys it later? Generally, the big fans of the game buy it fairly early on, so shouldn't it be those people who are rewarded? Don't get me wrong, I don't buy a ton of new games, but it just seems kind of like an ass-backwards way to arrange the prices for things.

It is like this for everything. If you cannot wait to buy it cheap, you buy it early at the expense of paying more.

[QUOTE=Xionasis;22276512]It is like this for everything. If you cannot wait to buy it cheap, you buy it early at the expense of paying more.[/QUOTE] This. Simple as that.

I still remember when games came out complete or were updated to add new things [b]for free[/b]...

[QUOTE=dass;22276617]I still remember when games came out complete or were updated to add new things [b]for free[/b]...[/QUOTE] Games still do come complete, and people rarely released content worth releasing for free.

[QUOTE=dass;22276617]I still remember when games came out complete or were updated to add new things [b]for free[/b]...[/QUOTE] That was before the bombs dropped. :patriot:

[QUOTE=Sickle;22276648]That was before the bombs dropped. :patriot:[/QUOTE] There were games back then?

As long as they don't announce new pay to download DLC after a day or two of their main game being released then I won't mind parting my cash, if the value for money is good. Plus DLC that was already on the disc I will always shake my head at. P.S: It's paid, not payed.

I'd be interested to know who made the very first piece of DLC which you had to pay for

Seems like the good DLC this gen is what would have been called "expansion packs" last gen. Shivering Isles is a good DLC. So is Dragon Age Awakening. The bad thing is, developers/publishers are now using the bad DLC more than good DLC( "Exit this conversation and go to the BioWare FunBux Shop?" ) and there's of course Horse Armour. More expansion-styled DLC(with the odd skin pack DLC), less of the bad DLC.

Alan Wake annoyed me a bit when I found that essentially the ending is going to be DLC but I enjoyed it thoroughly and was rather excited to hear that there's a second season in the works.

[QUOTE=Xionasis;22276637]Games still do come complete, and people rarely released content worth releasing for free.[/QUOTE] Too bad no one does that anymore. You have to pay for everything, no matter what it is. Look at the Stimulus package. 5 maps 15 euros... Same with the new upcoming DLC... Hell, Mw1 had a free map pack for fuck sakes... Acivision fucked everything in the ass

[QUOTE=dass;22277146]Too bad no one does that anymore. You have to pay for everything, no matter what it is. Look at the Stimulus package. 5 maps 15 euros... Same with the new upcoming DLC... Hell, Mw1 had a free map pack for fuck sakes... Acivision fucked everything in the ass[/QUOTE] Mass Effect 2 has a shitload of free DLC. Only Kasumi and the character skins packs cost money. Also Gears of War had a free map pack but M$ forced them to charge for the maps in Gears 2. And R6: Vegas' Red and Black map packs became free and the people who bought them were refunded their MS points.

I don't like DLCs a great deal. You can argue for it as much as you like, but the main goal in almost all DLCs is a based on the market (albeit most [I]games[/I],but still). I wish more developers treated game development as an artform, rather than what it seems to be today. But nevermiiiiind, what can we do about it? [editline]12:12PM[/editline] Expansion packs should come back; they were so much more than DLC ever will be.

Although I completely disagree with the principle of DLC, fact is that we live in a capitalist society and the endgoal is getting the most money. And infact, some of the money which they gain from DLC will be used towards better sequels or new IPs.

[QUOTE=Robbobin;22277209] Expansion packs should come back; they were so much more than DLC ever will be.[/QUOTE] Most good DLC are just expansion packs you download like GTA4's DLC.

[QUOTE=Xionasis;22274336]Also, Dragon Age is a terrible example. The DLC might as well be a whole other game, there is so much content. You are basically paying $5-$10 for something that should be $50 at least.[/QUOTE] What DLC are [I]you[/I] talking about?! The combined play times of the three DLC currently available is somewhere around five or six hours, apparently. Unless you're counting Awakening, in which case, it [I]is[/I] nearly full-price. [editline]12:31PM[/editline] Actually, I'm going to go ahead and say Dragon Age has some of the worst DLC because they god damn advertise it to you [I]in the game.[/I] "Help! Help! Some castle or something is under attack!" "What can I do you assist you?" "Buy this addon for 7 dollars!"