How many effective builds does Nature's Prophet have? I've seen support-oriented builds (Mek, Sheepstick, etc) and the carry builds (Desolator, Mjollnir, etc) and, of course, the quota build (Midas, Scepter, Refresher).
Also I kinda need advice on NP in general since I intend to play him soon (Apart from "don't sit in the jungle all game spamming Wrath of Nature unless you're trying to hit the quota").
I've seen Furion who skipped Treants, and just focused on laning and assisting in ganks by [b]every[/b] chance he got, with teleport and sprout.
Anyone got a good build order for Chaos Knight? I can never seem to make up my mind with him and end up losing my money.
[QUOTE=Reno360;37977258]Anyone got a good build order for Chaos Knight? I can never seem to make up my mind with him and end up losing my money.[/QUOTE]
max Stun and Rift, then get some Critical, Ult usually leave it to level at 10 and 11, since level 1 ult isnt that good.
Then like any Strenght carry, an Armlet is good, and you can get Drums, Power Treads/Phase Boots, and even a bottle for your mana issues
[QUOTE=NoName-;37977422]max Stun and Rift, then get some Critical, Ult usually leave it to level at 10 and 11, since level 1 ult isnt that good.
Then like any Strenght carry, an Armlet is good, and you can get Drums, Power Treads/Phase Boots, and even a bottle for your mana issues[/QUOTE]
armlet is good to pop before you ult
[QUOTE=Reno360;37977258]Anyone got a good build order for Chaos Knight? I can never seem to make up my mind with him and end up losing my money.[/QUOTE]
Drum, Treads and Magic wand are good, then Pipe is very good (people don't usually get it) against Morphlings and other AoE dealers, and Armlet basically a core item for dps increase.
I did that build and it worked good.
[QUOTE=Reno360;37977258]Anyone got a good build order for Chaos Knight? I can never seem to make up my mind with him and end up losing my money.[/QUOTE]
I usually do a semi-carry/roaming ganker build, and therefor tend to have a little les smoney ealry game then most people.
Farm up treads + bottle and get to level 7, you are now able to go anywhere on the map and gank any lane that isn't sitting under tower due to Reality Rift + Chaos Bolt.
Armlet is all well and good for buffing you illusions, but I tend to go S&Y since it gives great stats for the money and can be dissembled later on for two amazing items- Manta and Halberd.
I need help landing my ult as Sand King without Blink Dagger.
[QUOTE=Guillebon;37989531]I need help landing my ult as Sand King without Blink Dagger.[/QUOTE]
Either try to land a Burrowstrike every hero with a stun and then channel it or wait at the back of a fight, channel it, and Burrowstrike in
[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;37983562]Well, I'll do it anyway. Don't always jungle as NP, you are incredibly effective as a solo laning global ganker. It confuses the shit out of pubbers when the enemy team has a Lifestealer or something in the jungle and a NP soloing the lane and ganking actively in between farming the lane. All they know is the quota, if they know anything at all about Furion. All his other aspects are left in the shadows.[/QUOTE]I've seen lane NP being played well by Na'Vi. I guess pubbers wouldn't know what hit them if NP showed up to lane every once in a while (especially since NP and Lifestealer could theoretically rotate since Lifestealer is apparently a good laner).
How viable is more than one Agh's on Harbinger? He has lines for purchasing a second, third, or even a fourth scepter, so I was just wondering if the upgrade to his Sanity's Eclipse stacked or not, or if the extra scepters are just for the stat bonuses.
[QUOTE=Falcqn;38003105]How viable is more than one Agh's on Harbinger? He has lines for purchasing a second, third, or even a fourth scepter, so I was just wondering if the upgrade to his Sanity's Eclipse stacked or not, or if the extra scepters are just for the stat bonuses.[/QUOTE]
Scepter used to give +30 or so int instead of +10 to everything iirc.
[QUOTE=Falcqn;38003105]How viable is more than one Agh's on Harbinger? He has lines for purchasing a second, third, or even a fourth scepter, so I was just wondering if the upgrade to his Sanity's Eclipse stacked or not, or if the extra scepters are just for the stat bonuses.[/QUOTE]
I don't think stacking scepters is viable for anyone.
And I think those Scepter lines are there because with only 1 line it would become repetitive if you often bought a scepter as Harbringer.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;38014169]I don't think stacking scepters is viable for anyone.
And I think those Scepter lines are there because with only 1 line it would become repetitive if you often bought a scepter as Harbringer.[/QUOTE]
im fairly certain it used to be common to stack scepters, due to the old stats
[QUOTE=Suttles;38014282]im fairly certain it used to be common to stack scepters, due to the old stats[/QUOTE]
Yeah might be, this was in Dota1?
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;38014169]I don't think stacking scepters is viable for anyone.
And I think those Scepter lines are there because with only 1 line it would become repetitive if you often bought a scepter as Harbringer.[/QUOTE]
But the lines are specific to multiple scepters
[url]http://www.dota2wiki.com/images/5/58/Odest_scepter_04.mp3[/url]
"[I]Three scepters.[/I]"
Well I'll be damned
Yeah, scepter gave a lot more intelligence back in the day, so it was viable to buy even four scepters at a time.
So why is MoM a bad item to build on void first? I guess I can kind of see why, since chronosphere won't be that useful early game. But what's a decent item to build on him first?
[QUOTE=BoxinShrimp;38046048]So why is MoM a bad item to build on void first? I guess I can kind of see why, since chronosphere won't be that useful early game. But what's a decent item to build on him first?[/QUOTE]
Battlefury.
MoM is considered bad because unless you catch all 5 people its gonna lead to your own death against non-stupid people, and it delays actual carry items.
Its a good pick up after bfury if you wanna solo Rosh tho.
Best void build starts with like Bfury and PMS and Treads
Then if you're getting a MoM (for the love of the god don't always just get this without looking at enemy team comp) you generally want a damage item first like MKB or Daedalus and then build it
What's a good Silencer build? Most of my builds are usually damage focused ones.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;38065708]What's a good Silencer build? Most of my builds are usually damage focused ones.[/QUOTE]
Treads, Force staff is a must.
Get meka if nobody else does, as its awesome on Silencer, then Scythe of Vyse -> Shivas -> Attack speed.
Basically, just follow the core item list + situational items.
FYI this is the carry Silencer build.
[QUOTE=Rarara;38065781]Get meka if nobody else does, as its awesome on Silencer[/QUOTE]
Imo you should get Mek even if somebody else plans to make one, it gives you so much tank it's not funny.
2300g would be better off spent elsewhere if someone is building meka already.
That's like 2/3 of Atos Rod, which gives Int AND health for tanking purposes.
Would rod of atos be good on ursa?
Health for your ult
A nice distance slow
Kind of want to try it.
[QUOTE=Suttles;38078202]Would rod of atos be good on ursa?
Health for your ult
A nice distance slow
Kind of want to try it.[/QUOTE]
Rod of Atos is underrated.
[QUOTE=Suttles;38078202]Would rod of atos be good on ursa?
Health for your ult
A nice distance slow
Kind of want to try it.[/QUOTE]
Better items for same purpose imo
Int would be completely wasted on him
[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;38078734]Better items for same purpose imo
Int would be completely wasted on him[/QUOTE]
Yea the int kind of threw me off
[QUOTE=Shibbey;38078692]Rod of Atos is underrated.[/QUOTE]
Once played Lich and someone else on our team said he would get Mekanism.
And then I became an utility Lich with Atos and Force Staff.
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