Ace Of Spades V2:Version Mismatch or Map Transfer Fail - Games

Aw man, looks like we're moving away from WW1. I was kind of hoping for one o' them fancy-schmany water-cooly point-n'-shooties.

[QUOTE=JDB;30771586]ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww w[/QUOTE] Ben stated that hit detection was still client side, but the server itself would verify whether the hit was legitimate or not. I have no idea what that means lol, but I think it's like when you duck behind a wall and you still end up dying due to lag making it seem like your head was still sticking out for the player that was shooting at you. [QUOTE=Oneperson;30772041]Aw man, looks like we're moving away from WW1. I was kind of hoping for one o' them fancy-schmany water-cooly point-n'-shooties.[/QUOTE] That would actually be pretty damn cool, having one of those big Maxim "trash can barrel" water-cooled machine guns. Lol.

Mother fucker he just ruined the game. Now shit's going to be far too mobile, no one's going to bother digging in or anything, and it's just going to be a run and gun deathmatch game where you can destroy blocks (but have no practical reason to except for getting over walls). If he would have made emplaced guns the game's quality would have shot up dramatically, but this is about the worst thing he could have done.

[QUOTE=Dumpster Diver;30764734]Apparently the new update is coming out today. Here's a small snippet from the changelog: Ace of Spades Beta 0.53 -new weapon – sub-machine gun -new votekick system -frame limiter bumped to 60fps -much higher raycasting precision (no more radar rings) -ironsight recoil implemented -server-side physics and hit verification -greater memory allocation for larger maps -reduced CPU usage with the Sleep command Also, here are a couple of videos of the new SMG: [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4NlzLE7ztM[/url] [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWstlChop9c[/url][/QUOTE] Hopefully the SMG has shorter range or something. Reduced accuracy or no downside would make the game a lot less fun.

Wait, wait, wait... SUBmachine gun? Well, I guess it fits the Vietnam era feel, but... You know what, I just need to see it in action.

The submachinegun probably has a range of about 20 blocks.

[QUOTE=mastermaul;30772782]Mother fucker he just ruined the game. Now shit's going to be far too mobile, no one's going to bother digging in or anything, and it's just going to be a run and gun deathmatch game where you can destroy blocks (but have no practical reason to except for getting over walls). If he would have made emplaced guns the game's quality would have shot up dramatically, but this is about the worst thing he could have done.[/QUOTE] We need a modder.

I watched the videos, and it seems the SMG's accuracy is terrible at long range. I could be wrong though.

SMG is gonna be AWESOME.

[QUOTE=Itsjustguy;30779312]SMG is gonna be AWESOME.[/QUOTE] Makes whole game go Call of Duty IMO. EDIT: I knew this game is going to shit when he started implementing cliché crap like minimaps, custom maps (especially that, no more offensive blue and defensive green, it's purely aesthetical now), and other general retarded crap like moddable ironsights (the word is "scope" since) and autoclimb. I don't play it anymore, just read this single thread and facepalm more and more. This game could be a lot better. Guy could make tons of cash. Basic idea was original and fun at once, which is very rare these days. And what he did? He turned it into another retarded Call of Duty clone with shitty graphics and destructible environment.

[QUOTE=Drury;30779857]Makes whole game go Call of Duty IMO. EDIT: I knew this game is going to shit when he started implementing cliché crap like minimaps, custom maps (especially that, no more offensive blue and defensive green, it's purely aesthetical now), and other general retarded crap like moddable ironsights (the word is "scope" since) and autoclimb. I don't play it anymore, just read this single thread and facepalm more and more. This game could be a lot better. Guy could make tons of cash. Basic idea was original and fun at once, which is very rare these days. And what he did? He turned it into another retarded Call of Duty clone with shitty graphics and destructible environment.[/QUOTE] See, I don't understand something here. You're literally the only one who bashes autoclimb. I take it you'd prefer to get carpal tunnel from mashing the spacebar in absurdum?

Yup. Exactly.

:raise:

It's a lot easier when you know the theory.

"I want new weapons" "Ok here you go" "GAME IS RUINED FOREVER!!!1!1"

Wow, chill down guys. The guy is doing all of this in his free time, he is listening to the community. And if most of the players want something he tries to add it, he can't just leave an unfinished game because 20 percent doesn't want something new. Some will disagree with me, but oh well. We all prefer different shit.

[QUOTE=MisterSjeiks;30780889]Wow, chill down guys. The guy is doing all of this in his free time, he is listening to the community. And if most of the players want something he tries to add it, he can't just leave an unfinished game because 20 percent doesn't want something new. Some will disagree with me, but oh well. We all prefer different shit.[/QUOTE] The problem is, community is 4chan. Game was promoted on 4chan first, and forums are like mini-4chan too. Now we see where's root of our problem.

[QUOTE=Drury;30780611]It's a lot easier when you know the theory.[/QUOTE] I hope you mean code-wise, because I've always thought that hammering the spacebar is a bit harder than, you know, [I]not[/I] hammering the spacebar.

To spacebar, or not to spacebar. That is the question.

No ironsights or less damage to offset the fact that you can just spray. They could make it a close range ambush weapon only I suppose.

[QUOTE=LemONPLaNE;30781019]I hope you mean code-wise, because I've always thought that hammering the spacebar is a bit harder than, you know, [I]not[/I] hammering the spacebar.[/QUOTE] You climb faster and it's less annoying and boring when you jump diagonally with run-up. Also, don't climb up the steepest hill you can find. Autoclimb took away huge chunk of strategy. It was more realistic when you avoided steep hills too. EDIT: Also, why SMG instead of shotgun, I don't even.

Oh, great. No more digging in and fortresses, then.

[QUOTE=Drury;30781172]You climb faster and it's less annoying and boring when you jump diagonally with run-up. Also, don't climb up the steepest hill you can find. Autoclimb took away huge chunk of strategy. It was more realistic when you avoided steep hills too. EDIT: Also, why SMG instead of shotgun, I don't even.[/QUOTE] You do have a point, but it could be tweaked. I don't understand why he put another carried weapon in at all, to be honest.

And I thought the TF2 whiners were bad.

[QUOTE=Drury;30781008]The problem is, community is 4chan. Game was promoted on 4chan first, and forums are like mini-4chan too. Now we see where's root of our problem.[/QUOTE] If he didn't advertise on 4chan we probably wouldn't have heard of it you whiny shit.

[QUOTE=Drury;30781172]EDIT: Also, why SMG instead of shotgun, I don't even.[/QUOTE] This was discussed multiple times. A shotgun/pistol would be even more useless than the current SMG. The standard rifle does perfectly fine at close range, the SMG has a bit if medium-long range capability (I've tested it and been able to hit what I was aiming at up to fog distance), effectively removing the role of shotgun/pistol while also being more than just a one sided weapon. I used to only want a mounted machine gun, but most of people I have met who play this game are idiots. Then I wanted a light/medium machine gun (more "light" though, I use the M249 skin for the SMG). We received the SMG, not what I had hoped for, but I will still deal with it. Also, how old are you? Have you played any shooters that are older than, say, Call of Duty? Please do correct me if I'm wrong but, I'm pretty sure Call of Duty was not the only first-person shooter game to throughout history feature an automatic weapon... [QUOTE=NOD Engineer;30781633]Oh, great. No more digging in and fortresses, then.[/QUOTE] How does adding an SMG to Ace of Spades equate to "no more digging in and fortresses"? Just seeing that, I doubt you've played the pre-released version of 0.53. Plenty of machine-gun bunkers and mountaintop fortresses still remain. Hell, the SMG has caused me to remember what I loved about the original randomly-generated maps. I also took the enemies intel via tunneling while two other team mates provided a well-planned distraction. After reaching the surface, I turned around, sprayed a few rounds into the enemy bunker with my SMG, then took off. Three-man squads with one machinegunner (or four man squads with two machinegunners) work wonders when used correctly. But hell, if you don't want to play, don't.

[QUOTE=Tark;30782794]If he didn't advertise on 4chan we probably wouldn't have heard of it you whiny shit.[/QUOTE] Yup. It started as a question to some people to ''Hi, test this game for me''. And now we have the best game in the universe.

Sorry to disappoint but, 0.53 won't be coming out today (I don't think at least). After some testing, there seems to be a serious issue with lag after the sixth player joins the server, no matter which server you are playing on. Even with less than six players, the lag is still pretty bad. Also, there seems to be a problem with the hit detection now (since it seems to be server side), that's going to need a bit of fixing. The good news is that the SMG is awesome lol. It is pretty inaccurate, but short controlled bursts of fire work fine, even at long ranges. Anyway, you can still download the pre-released 0.53 here: [url]http://dustybrow.com/aos/aos053install.msi[/url] Test it out for yourself, check out the SMG. Here is a list of servers that are/were up (I can barely log into them sometimes, and some of them have a 5 player limit due to the massive lag, just keep trying to join anyway): aos://3026288558 aos://1576971862 aos://2306811720 (I know for a fact that this one has a 5 player max) aos://16777343 aos://2095266734 aos://695236451 aos://604088512 I think there were a couple more but I can't find them. If I do manage to locate them, I will post them. Enjoy (well, try to). [b]EDIT[/b]: Ben just released a new hotfix for the mega lag about 5 minutes ago, here are two servers that are using it (I think, I haven't tried them yet): aos://604088512 aos://33728704 aos://695236451

I have good news guys. The SMG is pretty balanced, in my opinion. It has alot of recoil, which means you won't be able to spray it, and it takes a bit of skill to handle (like the rifle). It sucks at longrange, it's a bit meh at medium range, but it's very useful at close range. I managed to play with Ben in a server, and it was pretty awesome. So I think this game is heading in the good direction. [editline]29th June 2011[/editline] I also forgot to add that he changed to way to change team and weapon, no more accidental suicides! [editline]29th June 2011[/editline] Crouching increases accuracy.

[QUOTE=Dumpster Diver;30783013]Also, how old are you? Have you played any shooters that are older than, say, Call of Duty? Please do correct me if I'm wrong but, I'm pretty sure Call of Duty was not the only first-person shooter game to throughout history feature an automatic weapon...[/QUOTE] Yeees, but COD is the worst possible example I could find. Drama needs to be done properly.