[QUOTE=Captain Chalky;38019730]People really underestimate stats.
There are quite many skills out there that scale really badly such as Ogre Magi's Ignite, yet people take more levels in them; increasing the mana costs and (slightly) the damage. And all this time they could be more tanky, have more mana and attack speed.[/QUOTE]I play Sven maxing stats after stormbolt, with one point of warcry and cleave thrown in.
It works wonders because you only really need 1 point for them to be effective, you end up hitting like a truck with all the extra stats.
[QUOTE=titopei;38019770]What's the multicast for ignite?[/QUOTE]
it doesn't directly have a multicast but multicast makes the bomb explode in a 150/300/450 aoe around the target
kinda like unstable concoction now but more/less annoying
[QUOTE=Prism;38018647]its a pretty hilarious build for es though, you gotta admit
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i love it when there are multiple ways of playing everything(unlike league)[/QUOTE]
Actually there are a few heroes in League who can branch out and be built differently. Kog, Teemo, Kennen, Nid.
[QUOTE=Zorus;38020002]Actually there are a few heroes in League who can branch out and be built differently. Kog, Teemo, Kennen, Nid.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, build outside of meta and get banned by Riot
[QUOTE=TehWoodPcker;38020094]Yeah, build outside of meta and get banned by Riot[/QUOTE]
Well, build anything pros don't get in tournaments and your team is likely to insult you to no end.
That's not that much different.
[QUOTE=Zorus;38020002]Actually there are a few heroes in League who can branch out and be built differently. Kog, Teemo, Kennen, Nid.[/QUOTE]
Thats not exactly what I meant. In lol you either build right click or spellcaster. Every spell has either increases its damage with physical or spell damage (Ability power or attack damage for the people who aren't familiar with it).
Basically you either play AP or AD and your items define your play style. While on that subject I'd like to add how limited the item builds are in LoL. There is usually one set build for every role with only a few heroes being exceptions. Physical damage heroes build THESE items, Ability Power heroes go for THOSE, etc etc. There are also a LOT of item that nobody ever uses(Haunting Guise, Levitian, Sword of the Occult, Tiamat(only one hero buys this)).
In Dota simply levelling one skill over another can make your hero feel completely different. For instance Tinker - If you max your March of the Machines instead your laser you become more of a pusher than a nuker. Item builds vary even more, you can see people trying new builds on a lot of heroes - Buying Diffusal and Manta on Spectre and Phantom Lancer instead of the old Vanguard + Radiance build. Some heroes can even change roles depending on your items alone - Natures Prophet can opt in to buy a Mekanism, Mjolnir, Manta and Necronomicon to become a pusher or he can rush high dps items like Desolator, Monkey King Bar, Deadalus to be a right click carry, all the while having the same skill build.
Another thing would be the "metagame". The lanes and who goes to them are set in stone and changing that is so frowned upon that I remember Riot disqualifying M5 out of a tournament for trying a trilane. 1 "tanky dps" on top, 1 jungler, 1 spellcaster mid, right click carry and support on bot. In dota there is no such thing. You could trilane, you could have a jungler, you could put your support and carry on mid, you could even do the old "4 people pushing on 1 lane" strat.
The thing is that LoL doesnt allow for those sorts of things. Riot made the game that there is one optimal way of playing it and if you try to do something different you will most probably lose. Having one optimal way deprives the game of new ideas and possibilities and is in my opinion a huge game design flaw.
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that turned out long but i hope you get my point
[QUOTE=Prism;38020322]Thats not exactly what I meant. In lol you either build right click or spellcaster. Every spell has either increases its damage with physical or spell damage (Ability power or attack damage for the people who aren't familiar with it).
Basically you either play AP or AD and your items define your play style. While on that subject I'd like to add how limited the item builds are in LoL. There is usually one set build for every role with only a few heroes being exceptions. Physical damage heroes build THESE items, Ability Power heroes go for THOSE, etc etc. There are also a LOT of item that nobody ever uses(Haunting Guise, Levitian, Sword of the Occult, Tiamat(only one hero buys this)).
In Dota simply levelling one skill over another can make your hero feel completely different. For instance Tinker - If you max your March of the Machines instead your laser you become more of a pusher than a nuker. Item builds vary even more, you can see people trying new builds on a lot of heroes - Buying Diffusal and Manta on Spectre and Phantom Lancer instead of the old Vanguard + Radiance build. Some heroes can even change roles depending on your items alone - Natures Prophet can opt in to buy a Mekanism, Mjolnir, Manta and Necronomicon to become a pusher or he can rush high dps items like Desolator, Monkey King Bar, Deadalus to be a right click carry, all the while having the same skill build.
Another thing would be the "metagame". The lanes and who goes to them are set in stone and changing that is so frowned upon that I remember Riot disqualifying M5 out of a tournament for trying a trilane. 1 "tanky dps" on top, 1 jungler, 1 spellcaster mid, right click carry and support on bot. In dota there is no such thing. You could trilane, you could have a jungler, you could put your support and carry on mid, you could even do the old "4 people pushing on 1 lane" strat.
The thing is that LoL doesnt allow for those sorts of things. Riot made the game that there is one optimal way of playing it and if you try to do something different you will most probably lose. Having one optimal way deprives the game of new ideas and possibilities and is in my opinion a huge game design flaw.
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that turned out long but i hope you get my point[/QUOTE]
What is the point of limiting the game to 1 lane setup lmao
[QUOTE=titopei;38020443]What is the point of limiting the game to 1 lane setup lmao[/QUOTE]
It's easier to balance.
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What I mean to say is that Riot is lazy.
[QUOTE=Prism;38020322]Another thing would be the "metagame". The lanes and who goes to them are set in stone and changing that is so frowned upon that I remember Riot disqualifying M5 out of a tournament for trying a trilane. 1 "tanky dps" on top, 1 jungler, 1 spellcaster mid, right click carry and support on bot. In dota there is no such thing. You could trilane, you could have a jungler, you could put your support and carry on mid, you could even do the old "4 people pushing on 1 lane" strat.[/QUOTE]
Not that I want to be siding with riot or anything but can anyone provide confirmation or links to the statement about being disqualified for trying a trilane.
[QUOTE=HighOnSinz;38020590]Not that I want to be siding with riot or anything but can anyone provide confirmation or links to the statement about being disqualified for trying a trilane.[/QUOTE]
I was told about this from 3 friends who apparently were watching the game live, but I'll try to find the game for you.
Im not even sure if it was m5, I didnt see it myself.
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okay so thats not true, i asked my buddy who watches all the LoL tournaments and apparently no such thing happened, just ignore that part :v:
So I trade my Timebreaker for 10 keys, decide to use them all on chests. Kept getting strange modifiers and battle bonuses, I opened them all and got like 3 modifiers, 3 battle bonuses and a few common/uncommon items. Shit, no courier, I thought. I check my inventory and sweet lord:
[IMG]http://screenshu.com/static/uploads/temporary/6s/ip/vk/ni6uca.jpg[/IMG]
Then I found out that battle bonuses drop along with another item as a bonus, but it shows that you've unboxed a battle bonus and the other item just appears in your inventory..
okay so the Riot thing sorta did happen but its different.
[url]http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/119276-MLG-Disqualifies-Top-Two-League-of-Legends-Teams[/url]
apparently two teams decided to play ARAM in an official tournament so they both got disqualified
I really have no idea how that turned into "m5 gets disqualified by riot for doing a trilane"
[url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/49250440[/url]
i soloed against a tri-lane as axe
Sandking, Void, lich
Was crazy shit, but never died
Was captain's mode too. Axe is a weird pick, but works.
Finally manned up to play Meepo in a PvP match for the first time.
[t]http://i.imgur.com/fXLep.png[/t]
[url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/49264761[/url]
[QUOTE=Suttles;38020790][url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/49250440[/url]
i soloed against a tri-lane as axe
Sandking, Void, lich
Was crazy shit, but never died
Was captain's mode too. Axe is a weird pick, but works.[/QUOTE]
Axe solo lane against 2 is pretty good, axe solo against 3 is KING.
You will absolutely destroy them with your level advantage, no matter what they do, because attacking you will kill them, and not attacking you will kill them.
[QUOTE=NomadicNinja;38015742]that won't work
it's a recommended item because it helps him initiate and get into position to ult somebody[/QUOTE]
I was watching demon's stream and blinking dragged them with him, did they change it?
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;38021131]I was watching demon's stream and blinking dragged them with him, did they change it?[/QUOTE]
Might've blinked a short distance away?
[QUOTE=Badunkadunk;38021131]I was watching demon's stream and blinking dragged them with him, did they change it?[/QUOTE]
If you blink like 400 units and then force staff it wont break.
Christ I fucking hate to play against Phantom Assassin. Jerks on the enemy team are always like fit for Vegas with how lucky they are, the amount of ult procs they get.
[QUOTE=Jojje;38021243]Christ I fucking hate to play against Phantom Assassin. Jerks on the enemy team are always like fit for Vegas with how lucky they are, the amount of ult procs they get.[/QUOTE]
I prefer a lucky PA over a lucky Slardar.
With PA it ends in 2 seconds.
With Slardar you are sitting there.
Staring.
Praying for the stuns to stop.
And then after 30 seconds of stuns you die.
[QUOTE=Suttles;38020790][url]https://dotabuff.com/matches/49250440[/url]
i soloed against a tri-lane as axe
Sandking, Void, lich
Was crazy shit, but never died
Was captain's mode too. Axe is a weird pick, but works.[/QUOTE]
Maruhai good drafter.
[QUOTE=Jojje;38021243]Christ I fucking hate to play against Phantom Assassin. Jerks on the enemy team are always like fit for Vegas with how lucky they are, the amount of ult procs they get.[/QUOTE]
I forget to get a blademail agaisnt PA most of the time, also i really hate how most people understimate ehr and let her freefarm for several minutes
Where's the section on the dev forum for reporting people?
There's this dude who fed repeatedly early game 3v1 and got all pissed off at me for it and insisted I was ruining his game on purpose and it was all my fault for not dying for him, he said he was sick of people picking champs to troll and he would be reporting me on forum. (sic)
I wanna see if he actually does it.
[QUOTE=leonthefox;38021888]I forget to get a blademail agaisnt PA most of the time, also i really hate how most people understimate ehr and let her freefarm for several minutes[/QUOTE]
She's an extremely hard carry. She can kill an Anti-Mage if they are evenly farmed. The big difference is that Anti-Mage is more reliable since PA has a 'chance' to be really scary.
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A lucky one can turn the tide of the entire game all on her own.
[QUOTE=Jojje;38021243]Christ I fucking hate to play against Phantom Assassin. Jerks on the enemy team are always like fit for Vegas with how lucky they are, the amount of ult procs they get.[/QUOTE]
Enemy PA: 2 hit kill, crit after crit, either we do something drastic, or game is over
Me or friendly PA: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 hits, no crits, ends up dead/enemy flees/actually DIES from normal hits.
I hate it when I get a PA in my team. Bigger chances of losing. Then there are those odd cases where it tanks the ENTIRE enemy team at low hp due to blur and vlads.
[QUOTE=l l;38021963]Where's the section on the dev forum for reporting people?
There's this dude who fed repeatedly early game 3v1 and got all pissed off at me for it and insisted I was ruining his game on purpose and it was all my fault for not dying for him, he said he was sick of people picking champs to troll and he would be reporting me on forum. (sic)
I wanna see if he actually does it.[/QUOTE]
No. That person is an idiot.
Oh I got another game, Luna randomed and I picked Pudge for mid, we fought over it the entire game and she kept trolling with pauses and courier, I got 95% of the last hits and she ended up just auto attacking and being like "I'm not even trying to for last hits retard noob"
They had their stream in their steam name so I looked... lol.. Pizza Hut as fuck. (0:08)
[url]http://www.twitch.tv/kalarae/b/335048093[/url]
I was playing with a couple of friends once and we got a streamer to ragequit out of the game.
I was clinkz and one of my friends was omniknight.
We kept killing him in lane and he left, the enemy team informed us that he was streaming :v:
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All of his 0 viewers saw the embarrassment.
[QUOTE=Da_Maniac_;38022529]
I was clinkz and one of my friends was omniknight.[/QUOTE]
this reminds me when about when I me and my friends would go Gondar + Omniknight on lane and then Dark Seer in the jungle.
Dark Seer comes from the jungle and puts a Shell on Gondar, Gondar goes invis and stands around the enemy hero untill he notices that his health is dropping(it didnt use to give you a "you are under attack" notification) and then jinada strike. Omni was there to top it off with a heal.
we made a lot of people ragequit like that
Just to give you an idea if you're playing Axe.
Get Armlet after Vanguard, you suddenly become bruiser-dps in no time.
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