Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward. - Games

[QUOTE=elowin;27169788]Im not sure, but is that not exactly what the covenant does?[/QUOTE] No thats the Flood.

[QUOTE=shadow_of_intent;27169913]No thats the Flood.[/QUOTE] Right you are, the point still aplies though, someone in the Halo universe already does that.

We must also take into account the training of the various forms of infantry. For example, at the one end of the scale, you have the spartans, the space marines, all those who can stomp through a battle dishing out pain like its pie. Then, at the other end of the scale, you have the Imperial guard, who's main purpose seems to be "lie of the battlefield, leak and scream a bit", and the grunts, who couldn't hit the side of a barn. from [i]inside[/i] the barn.

[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;27169943]We must also take into account the training of the various forms of infantry. For example, at the one end of the scale, you have the spartans, the space marines, all those who can stomp through a battle dishing out pain like its pie. Then, at the other end of the scale, you have the Imperial guard, who's main purpose seems to be "lie of the battlefield, leak and scream a bit", and the grunts, who couldn't hit the side of a barn. from [i]inside[/i] the barn.[/QUOTE] Ofcourse they cant, the barn is already destroyed.

[QUOTE=elowin;27169951]Ofcourse they cant, the barn is already destroyed.[/QUOTE] yeah, by that UNSC marine with a rocket launcher. Thing is, he was supposed to hit a wraith several miles away.

[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;27169970]yeah, by that UNSC marine with a rocket launcher. Thing is, he was supposed to hit a wraith several miles away.[/QUOTE] How can a wraith be several miles away? We all know that any battlefield can only be a few hundred feet wide, without the possibility to leave it untill one person has killed a set amount of enemies.

The halo 1 wraith tank could take ~3 rockets. Upgrades all around!

The halo one warthog could take an infinite number of rockets and remain unscratched. Then they upgraded it with the ability to blow up. Good move, humanity.

This Carby kid is kind of pissing me off "Oh yeah he doesn't reply to my post because he knows I'm right" Even though you did reply to his post and he was the one who ended up looking like a dumbass for not paying attention And then ironically he's the one who stops posting because he knows you're right

[QUOTE=Mr Shadyface;27170449]The halo one warthog could take an infinite number of rockets and remain unscratched. Then they upgraded it with the ability to blow up. Good move, humanity.[/QUOTE] It works so much better for wasting valuable resources.

[QUOTE=archangel125;27160345] [U]Thread on Bungie Forums: [B][url=http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=54861637]Here.[/url][/B] Just wait for the 'troll' accusations and righteous indignation.[/U] [/QUOTE] Oh god the stupid of that forum, it hurts! [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] Though this goes for a lot of games set in the future. Both humanity and it's enemies seem to loose shittonnes of firepower as technology progresses. [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] I mean how many years in the future is Halo? Yeah, considering how much time we have to develop new techs, a war with something like the Covenant wouldn't even be a war, it'd be some Xeno stomping fest. Heck not even WH40k got the advancements in technology right, and that universe is pretty extreme (though in 40k it's justified because a lot of technology got lost).

[QUOTE=shadow_of_intent;27162389]Of course, thats your opinion. And its wrong, get a new one. We can like what we want, and dont need you to tell us whats good or not.[/QUOTE] k then like what you want, then its my opinion that you play a shitty kids game, is there a problem here?

[QUOTE=c0nk3r;27171925]k then like what you want, then its my opinion that you play a shitty kids game, is there a problem here?[/QUOTE] Yes, there is. Stop trolling and go play your awesome mature games. That being said, I don't like Halo, but I fucking hate it when people don't respect opinions.

[QUOTE=OutOfExile2;27160470]Yeah having limited ammo sure is improved tech[/QUOTE] FYI limited ammo is gamewise. Lorewise guns used unlimited ammo, but they needed cooler reagents not to overheat.

[QUOTE=c0nk3r;27160658]halo sucks. The reason the enemy's are so shit is because its a kids game :v: Bright armor (easy to aim at) Bright lights on vehicles (easy to aim at) :derp:[/QUOTE] Yeah, it should be all brown and shit am I right? :downs: also yes I know I'm late.

[QUOTE=ThePuska;27162040]Try shooting plasma out of a gun without burning yourself in the process It's gas with free electrons. It'll react to magnetic fields but otherwise it's like hot air. It'll dissipate very quickly in atmospheric conditions, and it's not very dense - despite its immense temperature it carries very little energy. I can make plasma with my microwave, and it takes no more energy than boiling a cup of water.[/QUOTE] Actually, in the grand scheme of things boiling water is insanely energy intensive what with it having the second highest specific heat capacity of any substance in the universe. I mean, heating a 100ml cup of water to boiling takes 420,000 Joules of energy. Also known as shitloads. What stops this being an effective weapon is newton's law of cooling, at 100 degrees it's hardly going to transfer this energy quickly to a person, who, as it happens, is also made of water. To explain why plasma might be dangerous to a person is simple enough. Let's assume this is a high temperature plasma, say 1000C, which isn't too hot, but still. It strikes a part of the skin, causing a small amount of water under the skin to boil instantly, and expand massively doing so. Apart from destroying cells, it'll damn near cause the skin to explode and release a lot of superheated gas to cause horrific scalds all over the body. The speed of plasma projectiles can also be explained away, I would see one as a simple magnetic containment mechanism, which in accordance with standard plasma laws would leak all the time. So what we have with this theoretical weapon is a ball which: -Travels at subsonic speeds -Glows and spits out plasma due to failure of magnetic containment -Is superheated -Doesn't take gigantic amounts of energy to create, honest -Will strike the target making a dangerous ablation cloud, causing severe structural damage on the surface -May penetrate deeper into the target causing burns and, yes cauterising the wounds, but that's in incomplete method. In short, damaging, slow, and not infeasible or indeed impractical as a weapon.

Not to be nit-picky but I believe water has the FOURTH highest specific heat capacity. Just behind ammonia, which is just behind helium, which is, itself, a fair bit behind hydrogen. I might be mistaken, though.

Dude I just realized Halo CE is 10 years old. [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] Also I bet you wouldn't make the same thread about just how retarded space marines really are in WH40k.

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27173059] Also I bet you wouldn't make the same thread about just how retarded space marines really are in WH40k.[/QUOTE] Heretic!

Sometimes retarded equals awesome. Edit: Not with space marines though, look like shit v:v:v

[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;27173059] Also I bet you wouldn't make the same thread about just how retarded space marines really are in WH40k.[/QUOTE] Entire thread would be about pauldrons and you know it.

Mass Effect tech > Halo Tech Mass Effect Sheilds > Plasma Hell the collectors could take down the covenant easy, and they arn't even the big picture, that laster RAPED the Normady, and it would rape the covenant ships to hell and back.

First off, ME kinetic barriers are just that. Kinetic barriers. They stop physical objects. (There are some arguments about whether halo 'plasma' could be considered coherent enough to be a physical object and thus be stopped by KBs.) Second, the Collector cruiser's spinal mount was a particle beam, same as the particle beam sniper rifles and the energy projectors on Covenant capships. And, if you take the Encyclopedia to heart (whoever does, urdum), Covenant ships can withstand millions of ME ships at the same time.

I think it's the fact that there are so many of them that humanity nearly lost.

And space technological superiority. Can't say that for the ground war, though. No matter how completely retarded the human designs were (hey guys let's have a tank with a stupidly high-profile turret and one MG in an exposed position, a completely open jeep, and an assault rifle without iron sights), at least they were better than the Covenant designs.

I never thought I would see the day of when a Star Trek vs Star Wars type debate comes to the world of gaming.

Rated late by several years.

[QUOTE=the_killer24;27173541]First off, ME kinetic barriers are just that. Kinetic barriers. They stop physical objects. (There are some arguments about whether halo 'plasma' could be considered coherent enough to be a physical object and thus be stopped by KBs.) Second, the Collector cruiser's spinal mount was a particle beam, same as the particle beam sniper rifles and the energy projectors on Covenant capships. And, if you take the Encyclopedia to heart (whoever does, urdum), Covenant ships can withstand millions of ME ships at the same time.[/QUOTE] Shepard > master cheif, and look who's losing his war? I think we should just all agree that the halo games all suck except the first and that the books are infinitly greater.

First of all, the books are not superior to the games. (cole protocol :frogdowns:) Second, Shepard is not necessarily losing right now. He will probably defeat the reapers unless you fuck up really, really, [B]REALLY[/B] badly in ME3. Masthurr Cheef was losing too, before H1. [editline]3rd January 2011[/editline] oh look he's banned no more badly formulated, proofless arguments i guess

What about needlers, needle rifles and carbines - those seemed pretty efficient.