Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward. - Games

In the books they did state that their ground force was not as threatening as their space combat capabilities.

weren't humans winning on reach until the covies up and glassed their shit

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206599]weren't humans winning on reach until the covies up and glassed their shit[/QUOTE] Reach was a lost cause right when the Covenant fleet warped in.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206190]yeah but masterchief could survive a fall from space without any damage could shepard do it[/QUOTE] No, but Shepard -is outfitted with ocular synaptic processors that allow him to focus on targets with lethal accuracy. -has a skill called Adrenaline rush that increase strength, speed, and reflexes. -has skin weaves that cause his skin to be tougher/improves healing, heavy muscle weaves that increases strength/decrease damage from muscle exertion, and bone weaves that make them nearly unbreakable/also helps improve healing. -had shields and armor from his old suit that was already comparable to Chief. Now He has improved armor and upgrades that enhance shields/armor further. -is able to apply modifications like augmenting shields or different forms of ammunition during combat.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27206631]Reach was a lost cause right when the Covenant fleet warped in.[/QUOTE] lol yeah i mean they were winning until the fleet tho right?

[QUOTE=Giacomand;27206572]In the books they did state that their ground force was not as threatening as their space combat capabilities.[/QUOTE] But that's trivial when you consider that their ground forces are typically devastating to begin with. [QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206525]yeah and even the grunts are god damn super human i mean master chief weights 2 tons and they can hold him up with their heads[/QUOTE] What? Grunts are extremely weak, a single grunt wouldn't hold its own against a Marine. [QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27206657]No, but Shepard -is outfitted with ocular synaptic processors that allow him to focus on targets with lethal accuracy. -has a skill called Adrenaline rush that increase strength, speed, and reflexes. -has skin weaves that cause his skin to be tougher/improves healing, heavy muscle weaves that increases strength/decrease damage from muscle exertion, and bone weaves that make them nearly unbreakable/also helps improve healing. -had shields and armor from his old suit that was already comparable to Chief. Now He has improved armor and upgrades that enhance shields/armor further. -is able to apply modifications like augmenting shields or different forms of ammunition during combat.[/QUOTE] Spartan-II's are outfitted with augments that make them preposterously strong [i]without their armor.[/i] At 14 years old, The Master Chief almsot killed a squad of hardened ODST's, and explained his adrenaline rush as "seeing in slow motion". With the armor, one Spartan accidentally broke every bone in his arm by saluting too quickly in his first run with a MJOLNIR suit of armor.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27206657]No, but Shepard -is outfitted with ocular synaptic processors that allow him to focus on targets with lethal accuracy. -has a skill called Adrenaline rush that increase strength, speed, and reflexes. -has skin weaves that cause his skin to be tougher/improves healing, heavy muscle weaves that increases strength/decrease damage from muscle exertion, and bone weaves that make them nearly unbreakable/also helps improve healing. -had shields and armor from his old suit that was already comparable to Chief. Now He has improved armor and upgrades that enhance shields/armor further. -is able to apply modifications like augmenting shields or different forms of ammunition during combat.[/QUOTE] i don't even know if shepards weapons could affect chiefs armor i mean falling through space through a debris filled atmosphere is more dangerous than anything and he went through that like nothing. also chief already has all of those...? plus he's 7 feet tall or something [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=yuki;27206697]But that's trivial when you consider that their ground forces are typically devastating to begin with. What? Grunts are extremely weak, a single grunt wouldn't hold its own against a Marine.[/QUOTE] no i was kidding because you can stand on their heads ingame

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206662]lol yeah i mean they were winning until the fleet tho right?[/QUOTE] Pretty much, the destruction of the Long Night of Solace would've cemented Human victory.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206076]if we talked about how useful the guns are in games the guns in mass effect are a step down from guns too in a way small sand sized bullets, fired at meteor speeds would be short ranged(cuz how fast it'd burn out) and would probably only give welts and shit with the armor in mass effect and shielding(which like, protects from space shit as in mini meteors) but it's damn cool[/QUOTE] Think of it this way, would you rather be hit by a bowling ball fired at the speed of sound or a piece of sand fired at, maybe .05% of c, I.E. lightspeed. that is 1.498 million meters per second. Something moving that fast through you, will cause major damage.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206713]i don't even know if shepards weapons could affect chiefs armor i mean falling through space through a debris filled atmosphere is more dangerous than anything and he went through that like nothing. also chief already has all of those...? plus he's 7 feet tall or something [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] no i was kidding because you can stand on their heads ingame[/QUOTE] And yet Master Chief dies by being slapped lightly in the back of his head. Or being nicked by a warthog.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27206849]And yet Master Chief dies by being slapped lightly in the back of his head. Or being nicked by a warthog.[/QUOTE] Gameplay reasons. Shepard and his squadmates can take up to two missiles down the throat on Insanity alone. If it happened in a cutscene, they would be painting the walls.

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;27206847]Think of it this way, would you rather be hit by a bowling ball fired at the speed of sound or a piece of sand fired at, maybe .05% of c, I.E. lightspeed. that is 1.498 million meters per second. Something moving that fast through you, will cause major damage.[/QUOTE] if you're wearing the armor in mass effect or halo then i prefer the piece of sand especially when it's moving that fast since it'd burn out

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27206849]And yet Master Chief dies by being slapped lightly in the back of his head. Or being nicked by a warthog.[/QUOTE] Again, using the games as some sort of proof.

How did this become about MC vs. Shepard? It's like pitting characters from Star Wars against Star Trek.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206901]if you're wearing the armor in mass effect or halo then i prefer the piece of sand especially when it's moving that fast since it'd burn out[/QUOTE] you increase in heat because of the air friction you know they piece of sand metal would have broken apart already

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;27206847]Think of it this way, would you rather be hit by a bowling ball fired at the speed of sound or a piece of sand fired at, maybe .05% of c, I.E. lightspeed. that is 1.498 million meters per second. Something moving that fast through you, will cause major damage.[/QUOTE] Not really, it would pass right through with minimal damage. You're looking for a round that rips and tears, which are usually the slower rounds.

One Space Marine would shred the chief. Hell, one guardsman would shred the chief.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;27207090]Not really, it would pass right through with minimal damage. You're looking for a round that rips and tears, which are usually the slower rounds.[/QUOTE] yeah even if it didn't burn up it'd be like a needle a bowling ball at the speed of sound will destroy a armored vehicle [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Uberman77883;27207104]One Space Marine would shred the chief. Hell, one guardsman would shred the chief.[/QUOTE] wh40k is OP though lol

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27206849]And yet Master Chief dies by being slapped lightly in the back of his head. Or being nicked by a warthog.[/QUOTE] Shepard had to be brought back to life by some super secret company with billions of credits when we fell to the planet from his ship. The chief did it and brushed it off like nothing and immediately saw a cloaked "enemy."

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;27207104]One Space Marine would shred the chief. Hell, one guardsman would shred the chief.[/QUOTE] Guardsmen probably couldn't, but Space Marines are way overpowered to the point that they are disqualified from discussion. You could say Superman could kill any other superhero, and you would be right, but a man with infinite strength, every power, and his only weakness being located trillions of miles away is guaranteed to win. Same applies for Space Marines.

did this thread get a massive injection of idiocy or something

[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;27207209]Guardsmen probably couldn't, but Space Marines are way overpowered to the point that they are disqualified from discussion. You could say Superman could kill any other superhero, and you would be right, but a man with infinite strength, every power, and his only weakness being located trillions of miles away is guaranteed to win. Same applies for Space Marines.[/QUOTE] The Space Marine's weakness is that they take honor before logic in any scenario ever. Instead of firing at a range or using dropships, Space Marines get in close with chainsaw swords and instead drop [i]on[/i] the enemy's ships (and also the enemies themselves).

um no they have ranged weapons and dropships you know

[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;27207526]The Space Marine's weakness is that they take honor before logic in any scenario ever. Instead of firing at a range or using dropships, Space Marines get in close with chainsaw swords and instead drop [i]on[/i] the enemy's ships (and also the enemies themselves).[/QUOTE] you know they do actually take cover you know in books and dow2

[QUOTE=Uberman77883;27207104]One Space Marine would shred the chief. Hell, one guardsman would shred the chief.[/QUOTE] Well of course, they're from different universes, and Space Marines are fucking huge. These cross-fiction fights are fucking retarded, it's like saying "DANTE WOULD TOTALLY BEAT CAPTAIN PRICE IN A FIGHT RIGHT GUYS" or alternatively "GORDON FREEMAN COULD BEAT CTHULHU RIGHT GUYS" It makes no fucking sense to compare characters that are so drastically different. [QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;27207209]Guardsmen probably couldn't, but Space Marines are way overpowered to the point that they are disqualified from discussion. You could say Superman could kill any other superhero, and you would be right, but a man with infinite strength, every power, and his only weakness being located trillions of miles away is guaranteed to win. Same applies for Space Marines.[/QUOTE] [i]Exactly.[/i]

i always hated fighting with marines in halo 1 you only hear "frag out" and you see everything explode and then you die reloading right to the part where he said "Frag out" again

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27206190]master chief is a rank master chief is infact a higher rank than commander i am pretty sure [/QUOTE] If both Shepard and Master Chief have Naval ranks, then Master Chief is way lower than Shepard. Master Chief Petty Officer is the highest enlisted rank in the Navy, and Commander Shepard is an officer. Even a Lieutenant is a higher rank than Master Chief.

o i dunno then i only looked at a chart off of google so it was probably wrong

[QUOTE=SPESS MEHRINE;27207794]If both Shepard and Master Chief have Naval ranks, then Master Chief is way lower than Shepard. Master Chief Petty Officer is the highest enlisted rank in the Navy, and Commander Shepard is an officer. Even a Lieutenant is a higher rank than Master Chief.[/QUOTE] Wouldn't Chief be in an elite force? Looking at groups like the SAS in the present day, even a private in a special forces group has more command over an officer in the regular army.

[QUOTE=Slacks3000;27208202]Wouldn't Chief be in an elite force? Looking at groups like the SAS in the present day, even a private in a special forces group has more command over an officer in the regular army.[/QUOTE] I thought it said in one of the books Chief was in the Navy, but I havn't read them in a while so I could be wrong.