Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward. - Games

I believe you'll find that i did say that.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;27219481]The Mako seems way too finicky for real combat and the hammerhead is just shit[/QUOTE] In game: yes IRL: no

[QUOTE=loco;27207006]How did this become about MC vs. Shepard? It's like pitting characters from Star Wars against Star Trek.[/QUOTE] Star Wars charcters would win because they use magic. aka the force. aka George Lucas' All purpose plot hole sealant.

[QUOTE=wraithcat;27219108]Alternatively they see in a completely different colour spectrum and actually have painted camouflage on all their stuff and humans look just as bright and out of place for them. Just take a look at what plants look under ultraviolet light. [/QUOTE] My theory makes more sense as the higher the rank of covenant the more elaborate their uniforms get.

[QUOTE=Dirty_Ape;27220401]Star Wars charcters would win because they use magic. aka the force. aka George Lucas' All purpose plot hole sealant.[/QUOTE] Hey, IT WORKS. Actually though, the Jedi and Sith (or Force users in general) aren't invincible. Did you ever see the 3rd episode? WTF HAPPENED TO THIS THREAD?! IT USED TO BE EPIC! [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Sirdrone536;27210770]So this thread has gone from Tech to "Master cheif is awesome lolololol everyone fags lol" thread, Dammit for once could there be a thread that doesn't get raided by Fanboys and girls. (Maybe idiots too)[/QUOTE] I miss the Tech....

[QUOTE=Zethiwag;27160401]Also the human tech is weird - in 500 years, do you think we would really still be using bullets?[/QUOTE] Why is this hard to believe? Man has been using projectile firearms in war for more than 700 years.

[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;27221352]Why is this hard to believe? Man has been using projectile firearms in war for more than 700 years.[/QUOTE] But we've only been using modern bullets (you know, ones that DON'T require loading your gun with propellant every shot) for about a hundred years.

Don't fix what isn't broken. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] and besides, according to halo lore, hasn't the human race been preoccupied with getting into space, colonizing and attempting to halt a rising insurrection?

[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;27221518]Don't fix what isn't broken. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] and besides, according to halo lore, hasn't the human race been preoccupied with getting into space, colonizing and attempting to halt a rising insurrection?[/QUOTE] Humans NOT trying to invent even better ways to kill each other and everything around them? What did they do to the Humans?! I know they weren't expecting anymore war but that doesn't change the fact that we're human.

we made a railgun recently which is cool

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27221650]Humans NOT trying to invent even better ways to kill each other and everything around them? What did they do to the Humans?! I know they weren't expecting anymore war but that doesn't change the fact that we're human.[/QUOTE] Exactly. We build weapons that work on us. When's the last time we built a weapon designed to kill aliens?

[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;27221735]Exactly. We build weapons that work on us. When's the last time we built a weapon designed to kill aliens?[/QUOTE] usually aliens die from bullets too...?

But that's the point, we didn't build a weapon with them in mind, the current weapons did the job just fine.

[QUOTE=Irespawnoften;27221799]But that's the point, we didn't build a weapon with them in mind, the current weapons did the job just fine.[/QUOTE] But my statement was wondering why the hell most military development ended in trying to find new weapon systems. I understand that bullets work fine but over 500 years NOT ONCE did we find a better system? (Lasers, plasma, railgun, etc.)

even their ships use bullets lol and orbital guns(which work, cuz in halo 2 it blew shit up with shielding)

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27221892]But my statement was wondering why the hell most military development ended in trying to find new weapon systems. I understand that bullets work fine but over 500 years NOT ONCE did we find a better system? (Lasers, plasma, railgun, etc.)[/QUOTE] Yeah. In Halo you have Gauss rifles and lasers. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27221937]even their ships use bullets lol[/QUOTE] No they use a huge gauss rifle.

[QUOTE=BmB;27218844]I remember reading somewhere that the reason for the green colour of MJOLNIR (This was before Reach fucked shit up) was that it was some sort of special material that was better at dissipating the effects of plasma. Hence the semi translucent green sheen. I'd figure the purple armor used by the covenant is just such a material, and that the purple colour is a side effect of that specific material. So they can't exactly paint it over. You'd rather have a good defense against the kinds of weapons you know about than fancy paintjobs yes? Maybe it's easier to manufacture the purple kind of material in large enough quantities for spaceships and vehicles, and the more decorative colours are preserved for higher ranking elites or something.[/QUOTE] Like I said before, they are alien alloys, there's most likely a reason they all have a purple sheen to them and look like carbon fibre. [QUOTE=Irespawnoften;27221799]But that's the point, we didn't build a weapon with them in mind, the current weapons did the job just fine.[/QUOTE] A lot of people don't notice that the weapons in the Halo universe may seem like they could exist now, but are actually quite superior. For instance, the M6C is the most common handgun distributed to the UNSC, and it fires a 50 caliber round. Then you've got the common MA5 Assault Rifle that uses a bullpup design and has a built-in LCD ammo counter, and that fires a round very similar to the Mosin Nagant (7.62x51 compared to the Mosin's 7.62x54r). Or the M7 SMG which is a caseless weapon (the only thing we have close to that is the H&K G11 [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11[/url]). That's ignoring the fact that we mount fucking gauss turrets on vehicles. [QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27221892]But my statement was wondering why the hell most military development ended in trying to find new weapon systems. I understand that bullets work fine but over 500 years NOT ONCE did we find a better system? (Lasers, plasma, railgun, etc.)[/QUOTE] Uh. Gauss guns are rail guns, and they're mounted on every single UNSC ship, and even on warthogs. The Covenant are more advanced than us and they utilize plasma. Again, case of everyone expecting technology to be developed a lot faster than it is.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;27221942]Yeah. In Halo you have Gauss rifles and lasers. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] No they use a huge gauss rifle.[/QUOTE] i see guass warthogs are cool too but i personally liked rocket hog from ce more lol more fun

The covenant had huge amounts of forerunner relics to dismantle and turn into weapons, humans had none. Look at the spartan laser, seven/five shots and your done. Energy weapons need a lot power to function.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;27221942]Yeah. In Halo you have Gauss rifles and lasers. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] No they use a huge gauss rifle.[/QUOTE] Well, sorry about my incorrect statement but I have only played Halo once (HATED IT) and don't know much about what the weapons are except what I've heard.

I'd definitely take an M4 or AK over the Halo 'Assault Rifle.'

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27222023]I'd definitely take an M4 or AK over the Halo 'Assault Rifle.'[/QUOTE] I'd probably take the AK since it takes less work and training to maintain.

[QUOTE=yuki;27221973](7.62x51 compared to the Mosin's 7.62x54r)[/QUOTE] Or the real life 7.62x51 NATO which is exactly what the MA5 series fires. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27222023]I'd definitely take an M4 or AK over the Halo 'Assault Rifle.'[/QUOTE] HAHA seriously? The MA5 from Halo fires a more high powered round that either of those, some models can accept a 60 round magazine and fires at about 600 rounds a minute with little recoil.

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27222060]I'd probably take the AK since it takes less work and training to maintain.[/QUOTE] True. In terms of accuracy and range, it isn't the best, but it is definitely better than the Assault Rifle. [QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;27222083] HAHA seriously? The MA5 from Halo fires a more high powered round that either of those, some models can accept a 60 round magazine and fires at about 600 rounds a minute with little recoil.[/QUOTE] As for which weapon is more powerful, that is up in the air, but the AK - 47 is a very powerful gun.

[QUOTE=Zezibesh;27212136]Halo seems to have the best tech for space battles and stuff, but on the ground it's what 50 years in the future will look like, not 500. If we don't count some of the strange weapon ranges and such. Mass Effect seems to have the best gear for infantry battles but that's all we've seen from the franchise. We can't really tell if they have any sort of armored warfare, in-atmosphere bombers et cetera. So yeah, ME for infantry combat, Halo for spess combat, real life for, uh, plausibility?[/QUOTE] You are forgetting the 20 ton ferreous slug and "Isaac Newton is the deadliest SOB in Space"

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;27222083]Or the real life 7.62x51 NATO which is exactly what the MA5 series fires. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] HAHA seriously? The MA5 from Halo fires a more high powered round that either of those, some models can accept a 60 round magazine and fires at about 600 rounds a minute with little recoil.[/QUOTE] Why the hell would I want to fire 600 rounds a minute with a 60 round magazine? This isn't a Submachine gun, RoF shouldn't be through the roof. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27222112]True. In terms of accuracy and range, it isn't the best, but it is definitely better than the Assault Rifle. As for which weapon is more powerful, that is up in the air, but the AK - 47 is a very powerful gun.[/QUOTE] And it has a shitload of recoil. (or so I've heard.)

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27222134]Why the hell would I want to fire 600 rounds a minute with a 60 round magazine? This isn't a Submachine gun, RoF shouldn't be through the roof. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] And it has a shitload of recoil. (or so I've heard.)[/QUOTE] nah ak47 doesn't have that much recoil(it mean it does but not a shitload) you could hip fire it one-handed if you really wanted to

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27222134]Why the hell would I want to fire 600 rounds a minute with a 60 round magazine? This isn't a Submachine gun, RoF shouldn't be through the roof. [editline]5th January 2011[/editline] And it has a shitload of recoil. (or so I've heard.)[/QUOTE] You think 600 rounds a minute is fast? Most 5.56 assault rifles tend to be about 800 now. And if you didnt know the rule of thumb of a firefight is who ever puts most rounds down range the fastest tends to win, hence the invention of man portable machine guns.

[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;27222161]nah ak47 doesn't have that much recoil you could hip fire it one-handed if you really wanted to[/QUOTE] The Ak47 had a LOT of recoil. The AKM (which has pretty much replaced the AK47 but goes by the original's name) is more accurate and has less recoil while being cheaper to produce. (The only difference between an AK47 and an AKM is that the AKM uses slightly different materials and manufacturing methods.)

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27222201]The Ak47 had a LOT of recoil. The AKM (which has pretty much replaced the AK47 but goes by the original's name) is more accurate and has less recoil while being cheaper to produce. (The only difference between an AK47 and an AKM is that the AKM uses slightly different materials and manufacturing methods.)[/QUOTE] i guess i am thinking about the akm then