Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward.

[eroobus]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27570112]Because a fast reaction speed instantly wins a battle right?

I'm sorry, Master Chief is simply too outmatched. Sure, Master Chief may win if it was an unarmoured battle. However, they both have guns, so they would probably be shooting each other, and Master Chief would be put down quickly, with a combination of guns and biotic, if Shepard was an Adept or Sentinel. If Shepard was a Sentinel, he would have access to Tech Armour also, which would dramatically increase his shields, making him even harder to kill. If Shepard was a soldier, then he would have Adrenaline Rush, which would put his reflexes almost on par with Master Chief, and he would have disruptor ammo (basically EMP bullets.) The Soldier also gets heavy armour. In terms of heavy weapons, Master Chief has the Spartan Laser, Rocket Launcher, and Fuel Rod Cannon. That would be pretty impressive, if it weren't for the fact that Shepard has:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/ML-77_Missile_Launcher[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Collector_Particle_Beam[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-490_Blackstorm[/url]
And:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-920_Cain[/url]

And it's not like Shepard COULDN'T tank a rocket, or Spartan Laser blast anyway. He's survived much more powerful things.

For your argument of Master Chief getting close enough to punch Shepard out, that is probably one of the most ludicrous scenarios I have ever heard. First of all, you are assuming that Master Chief could get close enough to Shepard without being shredded by his weapons or biotics, which would be very difficult for Master Chief already. IF Master Chief gets close enough, and is stupid enough to try and punch Shepard, he'd be leaving himself wide open to a shotgun blast to the face. And we've seen how devastating Mass Effect shotguns are.
[/QUOTE]

Look we don't know enough about both game's technology. For all we know Shepard could destroyed by the Chief's other weaponry and Chief could be largely unaffected by Shepard's weapons (mostly due in part to the fact that ME's weapons aren't exactly plasma/energy weapons). The same situation could happen except with the tables being turned on the Chief.

[Chrisholl]

Wait wait I know a way to completely extend this arguement, don't forget that both shepard nor master chief(bookwise) are used to working in teams, so we also have to factor in their allies abilities and such.

[ChosenOne54]

[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27572642]Master Chief has a lot more military experience, he's been training since he was 6 essentially, and there are multiple times in the books where he has done well against bigger forces. During his training as a kid he knocked out adult soldiers many times and planned and executed a lot of escapes. They had a pitch black cave where they practiced in stealth and played team games. Multiple times he is thrown against overwhelming amounts of enemies.(I recall him engaging somewhere around a "sea" of grunts in one of the books.) I know shepard has proven himself a quite a few times, but Chief has none nothing else in his life but warfare, i'm pretty sure he could triumph over shepard in any environment.[/QUOTE]

Military experience can't get you far when you are technologically outmatched in every way (how many times must I repeat myself?)

Take this example. An highly trained, unarmed military soldier, or a fourteen year old kid with an M4 Carbine. Who wins?

[QUOTE=Erebus.;27572844]Look we don't know enough about both game's technology. For all we know Shepard could destroyed by the Chief's other weaponry and Chief could be largely unaffected by Shepard's weapons (mostly due in part to the fact that ME's weapons aren't exactly plasma/energy weapons). The same situation could happen except with the tables being turned on the Chief.[/QUOTE]

Now that is just a completely baseless assumption. Just because something hasn't been disproved doesn't mean it's true. If what you said is the case, then I'll be perfectly happy to argue that Cortana was actually part of a love triangle with the Prophet of Truth and the Gravemind, because that wasn't specifically stated to be false.

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27573321]Wait wait I know a way to completely extend this arguement, don't forget that both shepard nor master chief(bookwise) are used to working in teams, so we also have to factor in their allies abilities and such.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-iFPXU_yA[/url]

Well, if that is how effective Chief's allies are, then I'm pretty sure he is screwed.

[Android phone]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27570112]Because a fast reaction speed instantly wins a battle right?

I'm sorry, Master Chief is simply too outmatched. Sure, Master Chief may win if it was an unarmoured battle. However, they both have guns, so they would probably be shooting each other, and Master Chief would be put down quickly, with a combination of guns and biotic, if Shepard was an Adept or Sentinel. If Shepard was a Sentinel, he would have access to Tech Armour also, which would dramatically increase his shields, making him even harder to kill. If Shepard was a soldier, then he would have Adrenaline Rush, which would put his reflexes almost on par with Master Chief, and he would have disruptor ammo (basically EMP bullets.) The Soldier also gets heavy armour. In terms of heavy weapons, Master Chief has the Spartan Laser, Rocket Launcher, and Fuel Rod Cannon. That would be pretty impressive, if it weren't for the fact that Shepard has:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/ML-77_Missile_Launcher[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Collector_Particle_Beam[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-490_Blackstorm[/url]
And:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-920_Cain[/url]

And it's not like Shepard COULDN'T tank a rocket, or Spartan Laser blast anyway. He's survived much more powerful things.

For your argument of Master Chief getting close enough to punch Shepard out, that is probably one of the most ludicrous scenarios I have ever heard. First of all, you are assuming that Master Chief could get close enough to Shepard without being shredded by his weapons or biotics, which would be very difficult for Master Chief already. IF Master Chief gets close enough, and is stupid enough to try and punch Shepard, he'd be leaving himself wide open to a shotgun blast to the face. And we've seen how devastating Mass Effect shotguns are.

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

I highly doubt Android Phone has even played Mass Effect 2 for more than ten minutes; he's obviously a Halo fanboy.[/QUOTE]

do you know how fast 65 mph is

and no, I've 100%ed ME and 2, and that was a year before I got any of the halos

I'm a much bigger fan of mass effect but for the love of christ the pure fanboyism pouring from you is just unbearable

no matter how clearly we put it for you that most shepherds would get their asses whooped by chief you just say "nop separde has relly strong shield :downs:", I sincerely doubt you've fully read and acknowledged a single post in this thread that has disagreed with you

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27573392]
Now that is just a completely baseless assumption. Just because something hasn't been disproved doesn't mean it's true. If what you said is the case, then I'll be perfectly happy to argue that Cortana was actually part of a love triangle with the Prophet of Truth and the Gravemind, because that wasn't specifically stated to be false.
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you've said time and time again that shepherd has stronger shields than chief and better weapons with absolutely zero backup on it, the irony

just because he's got 4 squares of shields and chief has 1 rectangle doesn't mean shepherd has more, it means you've got the education of a fourth grader

keep in mind bullets do horribly against the chief's shield and shepherd has no covenant plasma weapons

you keep bringing up "but you can power up shepherd with metal skin and shit", if you're going to bring one side's powerups into the argument we should also assume chief has full overshields and is invisible

I cannot believe you criticize bmb for spewing shit and then start saying things like we should think of the chief from the game, not the canon one

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27573392]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1-iFPXU_yA[/url]

Well, if that is how effective Chief's allies are, then I'm pretty sure he is screwed.[/QUOTE]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fb3-N97Lo[/url]

look guys I can cite non-canon to back up my arguments too

[Bokito]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27573392]Military experience can't get you far when you are technologically outmatched in every way (how many times must I repeat myself?)
[/quote]
Flood came pretty close with no technology...

[Chrisholl]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27573392]Military experience can't get you far when you are technologically outmatched in every way (how many times must I repeat myself?)

Take this example. An highly trained, unarmed military soldier, or a fourteen year old kid with an M4 Carbine. Who wins?
[/QUOTE]

You mean the situation of some highly trained military soldier thats perfectly comfortable around guns and is used to being fired at and knows how to operate a weapon, and even hand to hand training, compared to some 14 year old whos probably never shot a gun before or even heard a real one go off right beside him, let alone know how to operate one or have any combat training what so ever. But hey, if you want to go and call your own side of the arguement a 14 year old boy with cool gunz n tech n shit, go ahead.

[editline]22nd January 2011[/editline]

Also, you have a lot of kids around you that would shoot a highly trained military soldier? I see where you get your advanced arguement methods now, they must all be freaking geniuses.

[ChosenOne54]

[QUOTE=Android phone;27573556]do you know how fast 65 mph is

and no, I've 100%ed ME and 2, and that was a year before I got any of the halos

I'm a much bigger fan of mass effect but for the love of christ the pure fanboyism pouring from you is just unbearable

no matter how clearly we put it for you that most shepherds would get their asses whooped by chief you just say "nop separde has relly strong shield :downs:", I sincerely doubt you've fully read and acknowledged a single post in this thread that has disagreed with you

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

you've said time and time again that shepherd has stronger shields than chief and better weapons with absolutely zero backup on it, the irony

just because he's got 4 squares of shields and chief has 1 rectangle doesn't mean shepherd has more, it means you've got the education of a fourth grader

keep in mind bullets do horribly against the chief's shield and shepherd has no covenant plasma weapons

you keep bringing up "but you can power up shepherd with metal skin and shit", if you're going to bring one side's powerups into the argument we should also assume chief has full overshields and is invisible

I cannot believe you criticize bmb for spewing shit and then start saying things like we should think of the chief from the game, not the canon one

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2fb3-N97Lo[/url]

look guys I can cite non-canon to back up my arguments too[/QUOTE]

This is probably the most hilariously ignorant post I've seen on this thread so far. I'll have fun debunking your 'argument.'

[Smartlord]

[QUOTE=Bokito;27573884]Flood came pretty close with no technology...[/QUOTE]

Yes, but you could say the exact same things with zombies in a bunch of other series. The Zombies may not use technology, but since they're not sentient beings that need to actually create weapons and technology, it's different. Same with the flood.

[Chrisholl]

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27575438]Yes, but you could say the exact same things with zombies in a bunch of other series. The Zombies may not use technology, but since they're not sentient beings that need to actually create weapons and technology, it's different. Same with the flood.[/QUOTE]

Flood DID have a sentient being in control though, of course you could blame the lack of technological advance with the fact that it biologically mutates when it has too.(Not to mention it took control of a high level ai like cortana).

[ChosenOne54]

How many walls of text must I make in one thread?

I have to say Android Phone, your immaturity and egocentric self-superiority greatly reminds me of BmB. You seem bent on the idea that you are right and everyone else is wrong. Your un-diagnosed superiority complex is the reason, I am guessing, you consistently state your opinion as fact, and constantly insult blindly, without even having the decency to back up your points in the slightest. You are actually very amusing. Sorry that I have to do this.

[QUOTE] I'm a much bigger fan of mass effect[/QUOTE]

Really? You could’ve fooled me. It’s not like you didn’t post a single word of praise for any aspect of Mass Effect in the entire thread. Or even imply in the slightest that you liked it.

[QUOTE] for the love of christ the pure fanboyism pouring from you is just unbearable [/QUOTE]

Ah, I see. Simply because I defend a character I like, that means I’m a fanboy. What I interpret from this statement is you were simply trying to think up a way to insult me, and fanboy was the first word to pop into your head.

[QUOTE] just because he's got 4 squares of shields and chief has 1 rectangle doesn't mean shepherd has more [/QUOTE]

Let me get this straight. Just because Shepard has four shields and Master Chief has one shield, that doesn’t mean Shepard has more shields than Master Chief. I’m sorry to break it to you, but 4 is a larger number than one. Therefore, if Shepard has four shields, and Master Chief has one… well, I’d think it’s apparent that Shepard has more shields than Master Chief. This is oh so ironic, because in the same sentence you say this:

[QUOTE] you've got the education of a fourth grader [/QUOTE]

Yeah, coming from the guy who can’t comprehend the fact that 4 is greater than 1.

What’s next?

[QUOTE] no matter how clearly we put it for you that most shepherds would get their asses whooped by chief [/QUOTE]

This is really funny. Let me go through the entire thread, and list your ‘arguments.’

-Master Chief has fast reflexes
-Master Chief can run 65 mph

Two. Allow me to debunk them quickly.

“Master Chief has fast reflexes”

Because fast reflexes mean an instant win right? Sure, Master Chief has fast reflexes. So does Shepard, with his adrenaline rush. Also, I doubt Master Chief, even with fast reflexes, could dodge Shepard’s weapons, as it’s been established they move near the speed of light. Master Chief isn’t Agent Smith; he is still bound by the rules of physics. This means, even if he sees the bullets coming, he can’t magically contort his body in different ways to avoid every single one. Also, funny enough, I’d think a rapid-fire rocket launcher and a black hole gun would be more than enough to kill Chief, fast reflexes or not.

“Master Chief can run 65 mph.”

That is his top speed. I’m pretty sure he can’t reach that speed instantly; he still needs to build up speed, during which time he would be leaving himself wide open to attack. And really, even if he could instantly reach 65 mph, it would only be good for two things: running away, and charging blindly at Shepard, which as I stated previous would only get him killed, as he would run straight into a shotgun blast.

You call me out for ignoring your arguments, while actually you have been ignoring most of mine. I explain things pretty well here:

“I'm sorry, Master Chief is simply too outmatched. Sure, Master Chief may win if it was an unarmoured battle. However, they both have guns, so they would probably be shooting each other, and Master Chief would be put down quickly, with a combination of guns and biotic, if Shepard was an Adept or Sentinel. If Shepard was a Sentinel, he would have access to Tech Armour also, which would dramatically increase his shields, making him even harder to kill. If Shepard was a soldier, then he would have Adrenaline Rush, which would put his reflexes almost on par with Master Chief, and he would have disruptor ammo (basically EMP bullets.) The Soldier also gets heavy armour. In terms of heavy weapons, Master Chief has the Spartan Laser, Rocket Launcher, and Fuel Rod Cannon. That would be pretty impressive, if it weren't for the fact that Shepard has:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/ML-77_Missile_Launcher[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Col..._Particle_Beam[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-490_Blackstorm[/url]
And:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-920_Cain[/url]

And it's not like Shepard COULDN'T tank a rocket, or Spartan Laser blast anyway. He's survived much more powerful things.

For your argument of Master Chief getting close enough to punch Shepard out, that is probably one of the most ludicrous scenarios I have ever heard. First of all, you are assuming that Master Chief could get close enough to Shepard without being shredded by his weapons or biotics, which would be very difficult for Master Chief already. IF Master Chief gets close enough, and is stupid enough to try and punch Shepard, he'd be leaving himself wide open to a shotgun blast to the face. And we've seen how devastating Mass Effect shotguns are.”

I suppose you simply decided to ignore those posts.

[QUOTE] I cannot believe you criticize bmb for spewing shit and then start saying things like we should think of the chief from the game, not the canon one [/QUOTE]

Quite the contrary dear friend, you have been spewing even more shit than BmB. This whole time I’ve acknowledged that Shepard is fighting canon Chief, not game Chief. Shepard still wins, for the reasons stated and many more.

/rant

[Chrisholl]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27575897]How many walls of text must I make in one thread?
/rant[/QUOTE]

Hey hey you stop going for the easy arguements and argue against me so I stop wasting my time on this.

Oh that came out like an asshole comment about your arguement android, sorry :p.

[ChosenOne54]

[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27575095]You mean the situation of some highly trained military soldier thats perfectly comfortable around guns and is used to being fired at and knows how to operate a weapon, and even hand to hand training, compared to some 14 year old whos probably never shot a gun before or even heard a real one go off right beside him, let alone know how to operate one or have any combat training what so ever. But hey, if you want to go and call your own side of the arguement a 14 year old boy with cool gunz n tech n shit, go ahead. [/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, bad analogy. A better one would be: A highly trained, unarmed Navy SEAL (considered the best soldiers in the world by some), or a standard US Marine, with an M4 Carbine. Now who wins?

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Bokito;27573884]Flood came pretty close with no technology...[/QUOTE]

The Flood had large numbers, and the ability to basically possess sentient beings. That is a bad example.

[Chrisholl]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27576324]I'm sorry, bad analogy. A better one would be: A highly trained, unarmed Navy SEAL (considered the best soldiers in the world by some), or a standard US Marine, with an M4 Carbine. Now who wins?

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

The Flood had large numbers, and the ability to basically possess sentient beings. That is a bad example.[/QUOTE]

[editline]22nd January 2011[/editline]

That's purely situational, either side could come to victory in any number of ways.(just like the current chief vs shepard arguement.) Obviously in a flat out empty middle of nowhere battle from a set distance the marine would likely win. But say in somewhere like a boat in the middle of a lake or somewhere more atune to the either of their usual training areas, the scales could be tipped in any favor.

[ChosenOne54]

[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27576497][editline]22nd January 2011[/editline]

That's purely situational, either side could come to victory in any number of ways.(just like the current chief vs shepard arguement.) Obviously in a flat out empty middle of nowhere battle from a set distance the marine would likely win. But say in somewhere like a boat in the middle of a lake or somewhere more atune to the either of their usual training areas, the scales could be tipped in any favor.[/QUOTE]

But you can't deny the Marine has the better chance of winning. It's the same with the Master Chief vs Shepard debate. It COULD go either way, but Shepard was a greater chance of winning. It does depend on circumstance.

[Android phone]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27575897]How many walls of text must I make in one thread?

I have to say Android Phone, your immaturity and egocentric self-superiority greatly reminds me of BmB. You seem bent on the idea that you are right and everyone else is wrong. Your un-diagnosed superiority complex is the reason, I am guessing, you consistently state your opinion as fact, and constantly insult blindly, without even having the decency to back up your points in the slightest. You are actually very amusing. Sorry that I have to do this.

[b]herp big words make me look so good[/b]

Really? You could’ve fooled me. It’s not like you didn’t post a single word of praise for any aspect of Mass Effect in the entire thread. Or even imply in the slightest that you liked it.

[b]just because I'm not praising it religiously means I hate it? oh my god I'm sorry I didn't imply I liked it you must feel so insulted, not that you're a fanboy or anything[/b]

Ah, I see. Simply because I defend a character I like, that means I’m a fanboy. What I interpret from this statement is you were simply trying to think up a way to insult me, and fanboy was the first word to pop into your head.

[b]"NO I'M NOT STOP CALLING ME NAMES :saddowns:"[/b]

Let me get this straight. Just because Shepard has four shields and Master Chief has one shield, that doesn’t mean Shepard has more shields than Master Chief. I’m sorry to break it to you, but 4 is a larger number than one. Therefore, if Shepard has four shields, and Master Chief has one… well, I’d think it’s apparent that Shepard has more shields than Master Chief. This is oh so ironic, because in the same sentence you say this:

[b]oh my god I thought I was joking when I said you have the education of a 4th grader[/b]

Yeah, coming from the guy who can’t comprehend the fact that 4 is greater than 1.

What’s next?

[b]and we've got no scale to compare them by, 3x is obviously way bigger than 2y since there are 3 of them[/b]

This is really funny. Let me go through the entire thread, and list your ‘arguments.’

-Master Chief has fast reflexes
-Master Chief can run 65 mph

Two. Allow me to debunk them quickly.

[b]further proof you haven't read half of my posts[/b]

“Master Chief has fast reflexes”

Because fast reflexes mean an instant win right? Sure, Master Chief has fast reflexes. So does Shepard, with his adrenaline rush. Also, I doubt Master Chief, even with fast reflexes, could dodge Shepard’s weapons, as it’s been established they move near the speed of light. Master Chief isn’t Agent Smith; he is still bound by the rules of physics. This means, even if he sees the bullets coming, he can’t magically contort his body in different ways to avoid every single one. Also, funny enough, I’d think a rapid-fire rocket launcher and a black hole gun would be more than enough to kill Chief, fast reflexes or not.

[b]when did I ever say he could dodge bullets? he's constantly got bullet-time, while shepherd's restricted to an arbitrary "COOLDOWN RPG MECHANICS LOL" two-second burst then several second wait[/b]

“Master Chief can run 65 mph.”

That is his top speed. I’m pretty sure he can’t reach that speed instantly; he still needs to build up speed, during which time he would be leaving himself wide open to attack. And really, even if he could instantly reach 65 mph, it would only be good for two things: running away, and charging blindly at Shepard, which as I stated previous would only get him killed, as he would run straight into a shotgun blast.

[b]why do I get the feeling you don't know what cover (or even concealment) is[/b]

You call me out for ignoring your arguments, while actually you have been ignoring most of mine. I explain things pretty well here:

“I'm sorry, Master Chief is simply too outmatched. Sure, Master Chief may win if it was an unarmoured battle. However, they both have guns, so they would probably be shooting each other, and Master Chief would be put down quickly, with a combination of guns and biotic, if Shepard was an Adept or Sentinel. If Shepard was a Sentinel, he would have access to Tech Armour also, which would dramatically increase his shields, making him even harder to kill. If Shepard was a soldier, then he would have Adrenaline Rush, which would put his reflexes almost on par with Master Chief, and he would have disruptor ammo (basically EMP bullets.) The Soldier also gets heavy armour. In terms of heavy weapons, Master Chief has the Spartan Laser, Rocket Launcher, and Fuel Rod Cannon. That would be pretty impressive, if it weren't for the fact that Shepard has:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/ML-77_Missile_Launcher[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Col..._Particle_Beam[/url]
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-490_Blackstorm[/url]
And:
[url]http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/M-920_Cain[/url]

And it's not like Shepard COULDN'T tank a rocket, or Spartan Laser blast anyway. He's survived much more powerful things.

For your argument of Master Chief getting close enough to punch Shepard out, that is probably one of the most ludicrous scenarios I have ever heard. First of all, you are assuming that Master Chief could get close enough to Shepard without being shredded by his weapons or biotics, which would be very difficult for Master Chief already. IF Master Chief gets close enough, and is stupid enough to try and punch Shepard, he'd be leaving himself wide open to a shotgun blast to the face. And we've seen how devastating Mass Effect shotguns are.”

[b]"shepherd has nuke launcher so he always wins duh haven't you played mw2 :downs:"[/b]

I suppose you simply decided to ignore those posts.

Quite the contrary dear friend, you have been spewing even more shit than BmB. This whole time I’ve acknowledged that Shepard is fighting canon Chief, not game Chief. Shepard still wins, for the reasons stated and many more.

[b]no, you've been saying he's got next to no shields, charges out blindly and has all the competence of a 13 year old with an xbox controller, and that for whatever reason it would take all of one bullet to drop him[/b]

/rant[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27576324]
The Flood had large numbers, and the ability to basically possess sentient beings. That is a bad example.

[b]"no you can't use that because it would mean I'm wrong"[/b][/QUOTE]

[Chrisholl]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27576524]But you can't deny the Marine has the better chance of winning. It's the same with the Master Chief vs Shepard debate. It COULD go either way, but Shepard was a greater chance of winning. It does depend on circumstance.[/QUOTE]

I have a rather hard time believing shepard could win in more situations though, even with all the technological advances which don't seem ALL that great if they are using their universes standard weapons(no rofl i sniped you with a super weapon thats rather hard to acquire) and their armor, I just feel like chief could use more environments to his advantage than shepard, even if he has to dart behind cover for an hour to do it because of weaker shields for a chance to strike.
Back to the teammate theory, Chief only has regular marines as squad mates during the games(for the most part) otherwise he runs with more spartans, some of which are better than chief at some parts of combat and worse at others. I'd rather like to watch a team of spartans go up against shepard and his gang(Spartan numbers = to the amount of shepards allies you bring with you.)

[Android phone]

I don't know if it's that

A. you really are that stupid (FOUR MASS EFFECT SHIELDS ARE WAY BIGGER THAN ONE HALO SHIELD!!!!!!)
B. you realize how stupid you sound and refuse to admit you're full of shit
C. you're just trolling at this point

pick one, I need to know if I'm wasting my time on you or if I can help you admit you have a problem (this thread is now Fanboys Anonymous and I'm the fucking councilor)

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

automerge :colbert:

[ChosenOne54]

[QUOTE=Android phone;27576553][/QUOTE]

Thank you for writing your response in a format that makes it virtually impossible for me to reply, and /or quote specific statements of yours.

It's not like it matters though, since most of your responses are, once again, shallow insults, and attempts at wit.

[Android phone]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27576681]Thank you for writing your response in a format that makes it virtually impossible for me to reply, and /or quote specific statements of yours.

[b]"oh my god how do I copy-paste :byodood:"[/b]

It's not like it matters though, since most of your responses are, once again, shallow insults, and attempts at wit.

[b]I like how you're still trying to (thinly) cover the fact that you're full of shit and know it

"oh, I don't NEED to rebuke your points, um, just because :smug:"[/b][/QUOTE]

[ChosenOne54]

[QUOTE=Chrisholl;27576656]I have a rather hard time believing shepard could win in more situations though, even with all the technological advances which don't seem ALL that great if they are using their universes standard weapons(no rofl i sniped you with a super weapon thats rather hard to acquire) and their armor, I just feel like chief could use more environments to his advantage than shepard, even if he has to dart behind cover for an hour to do it because of weaker shields for a chance to strike.
Back to the teammate theory, Chief only has regular marines as squad mates during the games(for the most part) otherwise he runs with more spartans, some of which are better than chief at some parts of combat and worse at others. I'd rather like to watch a team of spartans go up against shepard and his gang(Spartan numbers = to the amount of shepards allies you bring with you.)[/QUOTE]

Well, I'm pretty sure Shepard is perfectly capable of ducking behind cover for an hour also, if need be.

[editline]22nd January 2011[/editline]

[QUOTE=Android phone;27576726][/QUOTE]

Really? How long are you going to continue to deny everything you have said. Let me count your shallow attempts at humour and wit.

[QUOTE] oh my god how do I copy and paste [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] herp big words make me look so good[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] "NO I'M NOT STOP CALLING ME NAMES [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] no you can't use that because it would mean I'm wrong[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE] shepherd has nuke launcher so he always wins duh haven't you played mw2 [/QUOTE]

And I'd like to point out that a nuke launcher is a significant advantage anyway.

[Android phone]

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27576730]
Really? How long are you going to continue to deny everything you have said.[/QUOTE]

how long are you going to continue skirting around the actual argument

[Sirdrone536]

Unique thing about the flood is the more it devours and consumes the smarter it gets...The flood used the strength of it's foes against them

[DrBones]

Christ. Since you came in this thread, Android, you've turned this semi-logical discussion into a batshit insane clusterfuck. You're like BmB, but with a different avatar, post count, and join date.

[ChosenOne54]

I will hold off on my response until tomorrow.

[Android phone]

[QUOTE=eatdembeanz;27576877]Christ. Since you came in this thread, Android, you've turned this semi-logical discussion into a batshit insane clusterfuck. You're like BmB, but with a different avatar, post count, and join date.[/QUOTE]

I'm getting this weird vibe like none of you guys are addressing my points because you actually can't

I wouldn't be so venomous if some of you dumbshits handled this better, how can you expect me to take this semi seriously if you keep avoiding direct answers and just say stuff like "well shepherd has nukes so he wins"

[editline]21st January 2011[/editline]

someone fix page 44

[Raneman]

Most Halo players don't give a shit.
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/S5uB6.jpg[/img_thumb]
[b][i]"OH NO THE TECHNOLOGY IS INACCURATE!"[/i][/b]

[Lord_Ragnarok]

My problem with Halo weaponry is that it doesn't reach. An mp5 is an SMG, but it can reach much further than the assault rifle. With the shotgun and SMG, you pretty much have to be in melee distance. Maybe they just did this so sword users wouldn't be killed right away.

[Android phone]

all of the gameplay is balanced for multiplayer, not canon

[DrBones]

But Halo is first and foremost a game series. I usually just accept the supplementary material for a game as fluff and interpretation, and leave it at that.

[Contag]

Wow, last page was hilarious.

Android phone are you a 9/10 troll or you believe what you write?