Why the tech of the Halo Universe is a step backward. - Games

What about the Covenant VS UNATCO/MJ12 from Deus Ex? Personally I think UNATCO would win due to large munitions stockpiles, advanced weaponry (such as a shoulder-mounted rocket launcher capable of destroying armoured security robots in one shot, a plasma cannon that fucks shit up and a sword that is unparalleled in its melee effectiveness) and a large understanding and use of advanced technology (ie security cameras and [url=http://deusex.wikia.com/wiki/Page_Delta-2_Peacebringer]these things[/url])

Fuck y'all pussy ass bitches. Robocop Chickenwalker is where it's at.

So if a made a cod based off WW2 and added in lazors, flying hippo's and sex pimps and other zany shit I would not get a shitstorm. Oh yes

[QUOTE=Sirdrone536;27580064]So if a made a cod based off WW2 and added in lazors, flying hippo's and sex pimps and other zany shit I would not get a shitstorm. Oh yes[/QUOTE] Yep. Pretty much since it would be the funnest game ever.

[QUOTE=Android phone;27576959] I wouldn't be so venomous if some of you dumbshits handled this better, how can you expect me to take this semi seriously if you keep avoiding direct answers and just say stuff like "well shepherd has nukes so he wins"[/QUOTE] The funny thing is, you were the first person on the thread to bring up the fact that Shepard has access to a mini nuke launcher. Well, now that you brought it up, Shepard has a nuke launcher, which is a huge advantage obviously. [QUOTE] and we've got no scale to compare them by, 3x is obviously way bigger than 2y since there are 3 of them [/QUOTE] We’ve already established that Halo weapons are inferior to Mass Effect weapons, and are in many ways equal to modern day weapons. Yet, pathetic Halo weapons like the MA5 are still able to drain Master Chief’s shields no problem, when the much more powerful Mass Effect weapons take a similar amount of time to drain Shepard’s shields. Shepard can also have four shields up at once. I think that kind of shows that Shepard has far stronger shields than Master Chief does. [QUOTE] why do I get the feeling you don't know what cover (or even concealment) is [/QUOTE] I really don’t get what you are trying to say here. You realize, to force Shepard into a close range battle, Master Chief needs to get very close. So, what, is Master Chief going to dodge in between cover, and slowly work his way to Shepard in the hopes that he will catch Shepard completely off guard? :downs: You have brought up very few points of your own, Android, instead choosing to dodge most of our arguments, while accusing us of being fanboys. You are simply being obnoxious.

I think the weapons in halo are visually unappealing.

[QUOTE=TurbisV2;27582678]I think the weapons in halo are visually unappealing.[/QUOTE] tell us something we don't know.

[QUOTE=Contag;27579793]Wow, last page was hilarious. Android phone are you a 9/10 troll or you believe what you write?[/QUOTE] congrats you're the third person in a row to completely ignore my arguments but still call them bullshit [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27582459]The funny thing is, you were the first person on the thread to bring up the fact that Shepard has access to a mini nuke launcher. Well, now that you brought it up, Shepard has a nuke launcher, which is a huge advantage obviously. [b]he'd still need to hit him with it and he's only got 5 shots fully upgraded[/b] We’ve already established that Halo weapons are inferior to Mass Effect weapons, and are in many ways equal to modern day weapons. Yet, pathetic Halo weapons like the MA5 are still able to drain Master Chief’s shields no problem, when the much more powerful Mass Effect weapons take a similar amount of time to drain Shepard’s shields. Shepard can also have four shields up at once. I think that kind of shows that Shepard has far stronger shields than Master Chief does. [b]you are so fucking thick I don't think you'll ever understand how wrong you are on this point, I don't have the time or patience to teach you basic algebra so you win on this point in your own little world[/b] I really don’t get what you are trying to say here. You realize, to force Shepard into a close range battle, Master Chief needs to get very close. So, what, is Master Chief going to dodge in between cover, and slowly work his way to Shepard in the hopes that he will catch Shepard completely off guard? :downs: [b]because he definitely can't move as fast as a car on a highway and shepherd has 360 degrees of view[/b] You have brought up very few points of your own, Android, instead choosing to dodge most of our arguments, while accusing us of being fanboys. [b]I've been rebuking your horseshit arguments for pages, it's like you don't realize your favorite sexual fantasy character is outmatched against a half-ton lightning fast tank that throws 3000-pound punches and constantly experiences bullet time[/b] You are simply being obnoxious. :irony:[/QUOTE]

Wow, Android is the new BmB. I saw it coming, considering his earlier posts before he started trolling the thread. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Contag;27579793]Wow, last page was hilarious. Android phone are you a 9/10 troll or you believe what you write?[/QUOTE] Totally true.

lol, could a troll get even more obvious. The funniest part is that he keeps spamming random icons, thinking he's being witty. Let's leave Android Phone as the sad little king of his own sad little thread.

what's up with the sudden slew of people unable to actually argue the points you've been a reasonable person up until recently cakemaster, can you help chosenone with his math problems?

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27582459] I really don’t get what you are trying to say here. You realize, to force Shepard into a close range battle, Master Chief needs to get very close. So, what, is Master Chief going to dodge in between cover, and slowly work his way to Shepard in the hopes that he will catch Shepard completely off guard? :downs: [/QUOTE] That is exactly what I think, he wouldn't even have to slowly work his way there either, he's fast, we all know that, he can probably find cover before shepard shoots him, we know that, but it's not like chief is going to run out that last stretch there when shepards pointing a shotgun in his general direction, he could suppress shepard with some gunfire, lob a grenade, anything to get shepard to lose his focus for a second and then he'll strike. Whether he reaches full speed or not(Which now that I think about it he'd reach it rather fast anyway with the whole super muscle thing)he's still a damn fast unhittable target, he knows how to be stealthy and he has done quite an excellent job on missions where he had to be.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27585505]lol, could a troll get even more obvious. [b]I don't know, getting destroyed in an argument then saying "YOU'RE JUST A TROLL" is pretty hard to top, how are you going to get more obvious than that[/b] The funniest part is that he keeps spamming random icons, thinking he's being witty. [b]you don't know what irony is then, huh[/b] Let's leave Android Phone as the sad little king of his own sad little thread. [b]archangel125 is the OP, I started arguing when I realized how incredibly ignorant you are, but by all means please get out[/b][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Android phone;27585511]what's up with the sudden slew of people unable to actually argue the points you've been a reasonable person up until recently cakemaster, can you help chosenone with his math problems?[/QUOTE] Yes, but you haven't been very polite, almost every single response to an argument you make has to include an insult. It's not civil. We're trying to have a debate here but you're ruining it by being overly aggressive. And Chosen, if you REALLY think he's a troll then ignore him, don't feed trolls, remember?

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27585609]Yes, but you haven't been very polite, almost every single response to an argument you make has to include an insult. It's not civil. We're trying to have a debate here but you're ruining it by being overly aggressive. And Chosen, if you REALLY think he's a troll then ignore him, don't feed trolls, remember?[/QUOTE] ThereARE different types of arguements, it's what makes these kinds of threads worthwhile after all.

It's not so much you destroying us in an argument. You are simply so thck headed that you cannot accept that Master Chief loses, instead choosing to blindly insult. My points still stand, as you haven't come up with any sufficient evidence to refute my statements.

[QUOTE=CakeMaster7;27585609]Yes, but you haven't been very polite, almost every single response to an argument you make has to include an insult. It's not civil. We're trying to have a debate here but you're ruining it by being overly aggressive. And Chosen, if you REALLY think he's a troll then ignore him, don't feed trolls, remember?[/QUOTE] I find it incredibly difficult to suppress my sarcasm when arguing with idiots, of course I'll be civil with you but it'd be wasted words on someone like ChosenOne. I'd be glad to write like I typically do as long as nobody starts bringing up stuff like "nuke launcher always wins" or "shepherd can't even jump (:colbert:)".

Calling me 'thick' and making wild guesses about my math skills isn't really solid evidence at all.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27585738]It's not so much you destroying us in an argument. You are simply so thck headed that you cannot accept that Master Chief loses, instead choosing to blindly insult. My points still stand, as you haven't come up with any sufficient evidence to refute my statements.[/QUOTE] what statements it's always "master chief would only run straight towards shepherd so he'd lose, duh :downs:", never "master chief is more clever than he's portrayed in the games and it would be very likely he would use more stealth and tactic than I think, I'm an idiot to think he'd only run straight towards shepherd and I'll admit shepherd would probably hardly ever hit him. I also acknowledge that typically Shepherd doesn't wear a helmet, and after Chief dispatches his shields it would be incredibly easy to pop him, since he's got a built-in real-life aimbot. I'll admit, Chief and Shepherd are closely tied, it really depends on what kind of build the Shepherd uses, and whether or not we take into account environmental factors and timeline discrepancies." if only you could actually speak like that :allears: [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27585883]Calling me 'thick' and making wild guesses about my math skills isn't really solid evidence at all.[/QUOTE] you're thick because you have no idea what the conversion from Mjolnir shields to N7 shields are, you have no idea what one weapon from one universe will do to the armor of another, and yet you keep saying shepherd has more shields just because he does how dumb would it be for me to say master chief's M5A would kill shepherd instantly, because it uses big bullets that's how dumb you sound

You say that as if Shepard himself is stupid, when in actuality, he is just as capable of using tactics and stealth to his advantage as Chief. The only difference is that Shepard is better equipped. So, yes, Master Chief may be able to sneak up and punch Shepard, but that would be assuming that Shepard is stupid and unaware of his surroundings. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] I'd like to add that Chef would die fast also if his sheilds were drained. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] And really, as I said before, it is impossible to determine the outcome of a battle perfectly. However, we can asses the major strengths and weaknesses of both side, and draw educated conclusions. I think it's pretty safe to assume that a projectile moving near the speed of light would be more effectve than a bullet.

I'm telling you, Shepard would just pull rank on Master Chief Petty Officer and MC would have to team up with ol' Shep, or face reprimands for disobeying a superior's orders.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27585974]You say that as if Shepard himself is stupid, when in actuality, he is just as capable of using tactics and stealth to his advantage as Chief. The only difference is that Shepard is better equipped. So, yes, Master Chief may be able to sneak up and punch Shepard, but that would be assuming that Shepard is stupid and unaware of his surroundings. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] I'd like to add that Chef would die fast also if his sheilds were drained.[/QUOTE] Depending on the build's characteristics Shepherd could be stupid as fuck or a master tactician. Shepherd isn't always better equipped either, most of his classes are hilariously underpowered, although some high-leveled ones (Soldier and Vanguard) would match up pretty evenly. "Chef" would also last a long, long time without his shields depending on what suit he was wearing, with the Mjolnir 6 (Halo 3) his suit automatically injects a sort of bio-gel that is an automatic coagulant, pain reliever and adrenal injector wherever he's injured, and you're forgetting that underneath his shields Shepherd would still have to penetrate a liquid metal armor layer (think of that stuff that only gets hard when you put a magnet to it but is liquid otherwise) and the gel layer that makes Chief able to survive orbital drops, and then finally, beneath all of that, there's Chief's metal-hard skin, pneumatic muscles and unbreakable bones. Depending on when you're pulling Shepherd from the story he'd either shit himself and give up or shit himself and fight. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=eatdembeanz;27586103]I'm telling you, Shepard would just pull rank on Master Chief Petty Officer and MC would have to team up with ol' Shep, or face reprimands for disobeying a superior's orders.[/QUOTE] UNSC is different from the Alliance.

Well, this battle is an interesting one because Mass Effect is an RPG. Yes, we've established that some classes would lose to Chief, yet others, like the Sentinel or Vanguard could outmatch him. Also, it's obvius that a low level Shepard would lose. However, by the end of the game, as a fully upgraded Shepard with biotics, I really couldn't see him losing. Mind my spelling, I'm typing on an iPhone. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] Just to remind you, even in the books, explosives deal major damage to Master Chief. I believe at one point, Chief is nearly killed by a rocket.

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27586303]Well, this battle is an interesting one because Mass Effect is an RPG. Yes, we've established that some classes would lose to Chief, yet others, like the Sentinel or Vanguard could outmatch him. Also, it's obvius that a low level Shepard would lose. However, by the end of the game, as a fully upgraded Shepard with biotics, I really couldn't see him losing. Mind my spelling, I'm typing on an iPhone. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] Just to remind you, even in the books, explosives deal major damage to Master Chief. I believe at one point, Chief is nearly killed by a rocket.[/QUOTE] If Shepherd is fully upgraded so is Master Chief. Master Chief is now invisible, can soak up 4x the damage before his shields give out, and is holding an invincibility deployable. Seriously though.

[QUOTE=P1X3L N1NJA;27563732]Grenade launcher attachment? What the fuck are you on about. And give me a source on Fusion Rockets. [/QUOTE] It was mentioned in one of the stupid books you ignorant [sp]double gentlemen[/sp]. And Fusion rockets were mentioned in Fall of Reach book, page 118.

I was unaware that Master Choef could be invsible and have an overshield at the same time. Well, whatever. Master Chief's invisibility is not very effective anyway, as it is negated whenever he shoots or is shot at. And even with an overshield, I doubt he could match an upgraded Shepard. By the way, Shepard can turn invisible also. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] See how enlightening discussions can be when people aren't insulting each other?

[QUOTE=ChosenOne54;27586532]I was unaware that Master Choef could be invsible and have an overshield at the same time. Well, whatever. Master Chief's invisibility is not very effective anyway, as it is negated whenever he shoots or is shot at. And even with an overshield, I doubt he could match an upgraded Shepard. By the way, Shepard can turn invisible also. [editline]22nd January 2011[/editline] See how enlightening discussions can be when people aren't insulting each other?[/QUOTE] The invisibility is perfectly effective if you're moving so fast you'd just be a blur anyways, his tank-destroying punch goes straight through Shepherd's shields, strawman, and on one of his classes (the one with light armor and next to no shields), in that order. I like Halo for the story and I like everything about Mass Effect, they're definitely much better games than the Halo series, but christ almighty you are too stubborn to argue with.

Android phone you are wrong, Master Chef belongs to kitchen, he is no match to...well... any other videogame character ever. Even Strelok without any supersuits would push him over.

How do we even know for certain than a punch could break through Shepard's shields? Yes, maybe Master Chief wins if he is invisible, but that ability is so circumstantial that it is pointless to include it. It's like saying that Gordon Freeman would win if he had his dark energy gravty gun.

[QUOTE=Raiskauskone V2;27587144]Android phone you are wrong, Master Chef belongs to kitchen, he is no match to...well... any other videogame character ever. Even Strelok without any supersuits would push him over.[/QUOTE] We're talking about Canon chief, not multiplayer Halo chief. The one that can move at 65 mph, has reflexes 1500% faster than normal humans and experiences slow-motion when he gets an adrenaline rush, the one that has AI target assistance (effectively an aimbot), who can survive a space-to-ground drop in just his suit. Not the one that can only turn as fast as your sensitivity is.