[quote=uber|noob;15505976]i said it can't run source games [b]properly[/b], hence the links to articles about fps problems[/quote]
READ THE FUCKING POST. Here:
[quote=markntosh;15505953]please note that portal doesn't have a single fault with it. Proof that it [u][i]can[/u][/i] run well but that ea made a crappy port.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15505953]
Please note that Portal doesn't have a single fault with it. Proof that it [u][i]CAN[/u][/i] run well but that EA made a crappy Port.[/QUOTE]
Proof that Portal has much smaller simpler maps with no outdoor environmental effects
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15505988]no, you're trying to stick words in my mouth[/quote]
I'm not sticking any words in you're mouth, I'm grabbing them OUT of you're mouth.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15505988]also stop rating yourself +1[/QUOTE]
I'm not the one doing it.
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[QUOTE=DementNeo;15506008]Proof that Portal has much smaller simpler maps with no outdoor environmental effects[/QUOTE]
And what about when the portals open up? The energy balls? The gas at the end of the game? Noada.
And the framerate drops don't have much if anything to do with what's going on in the game in HL2. I was playing through Ep1 and got a drop while I was in the small room with the barnacles.
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506021]I'm not sticking any words in you're mouth, I'm grabbing them OUT of you're mouth.
I'm not the one doing it.
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[B]And what about when the portals open up? The energy balls? The gas at the end of the game?[/B] Noada.
And the framerate drops don't have much if anything to do with what's going on in the game in HL2. I was playing through Ep1 and got a drop while I was in the small room with the barnacles.[/QUOTE]The pinnacle of PS3 graphics :)
Please tell me that's sarcasm. If not, you're just acting stupid.
Killzone 2, God of War, MGS 4. All better graphics, all not only capable, but framerate drop free on the PS3.
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506021]
And what about when the portals open up? The energy balls? The gas at the end of the game? Noada.
And the framerate drops don't have much if anything to do with what's going on in the game in HL2. I was playing through Ep1 and got a drop while I was in the small room with the barnacles.[/QUOTE]
Did you really think telling me how you lagged at an easy to handle part of Ep1 on your PS3 was going to support your argument?
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506135]Please tell me that's sarcasm. If not, you're just acting stupid.
Killzone 2, God of War, MGS 4. All better graphics, all not only capable, but framerate drop free on the PS3.[/QUOTE]Blur, Blood, storygraphics.
Yes, actually, considering I get next to no lag in Ep 2.
My argument is that the lag has NOTHING to do with how the PS3 is handling the game, it has to do with EAs crappy porting skills.
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506021]I'm not sticking any words in you're mouth, I'm grabbing them OUT of you're mouth.[/QUOTE]
uh, no
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506021]I'm not the one doing it.[/QUOTE]
yes, a +1 just happens to appear the second you make a post
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506021]And what about when the portals open up? The energy balls? The gas at the end of the game? [/QUOTE]
those are not exactly demanding, compared to the outdoors areas with lots of models and terrain
all you've provided so far are just incoherent arguments that make very little sense
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15506165]
those are not exactly demanding, compared to the outdoors areas with lots of models and terrain
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Exactly, what you have to think of is how much it's rendering at the same time, and how far the draw distance is n shitz
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;15506160]Blur, Blood, storygraphics.[/QUOTE]
Blur = Lots of wind that blows props around
Blood = Zippertech were you can see individual organs spilling out of the body
Storygraphics = Simply awesome crap.
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506194]Blur = Lots of wind that blows props around
Blood = Zippertech were you can see individual organs spilling out of the body
Storygraphics = [B]Simply awesome crap.[/B][/QUOTE]Ok, if you're into that type of thing. :/
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15506165]uh, no[/quote]
Uh, yes. You should re-read your posts before you snip to cover your ass.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15506165]yes, a +1 just happens to appear the second you make a post[/quote]
Yes, and that's why I see not only a +1 but a +2 next to you and a -2 next to me half a second after I post.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15506165]those are not exactly demanding, compared to the outdoors areas with lots of models and terrain[/quote]
As I've previously stated, I don't ever remember getting lag playing Ep 2, which is by far the largest and most demanding.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15506165]all you've provided so far are just incoherent arguments that make very little sense[/QUOTE]
Yah, and your arguments make [i]plenty[/i] of sense. :rolleyes:
Seriously, fanboys, GET OUT. This is a thread abotu the possibilities of a PS3 game, all you're doing is making it go to HELL by starting a flame war.
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[QUOTE=benzi2k7;15506205]Ok, if you're into that type of thing. :/[/QUOTE]
All MGS 4 cutscenes use the in-game engine.
I'm talking about your love of scat.
[QUOTE=benzi2k7;15506205]Ok, if you're into that type of thing. :/[/QUOTE]
Which is why you don't have to buy the game :smile: Yay for small 3 person threadfight?
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506234]all you're doing is making it go to HELL by starting a flame war.[/QUOTE]
uhm, YOU are the one using abusive language
[QUOTE=hexpunK;15506261]Which is why you don't have to buy the game :smile: Yay for small 3 person threadfight?[/QUOTE]Who buys poo!!
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506161]Yes, actually, considering I get next to no lag in Ep 2.
My argument is that the lag has NOTHING to do with how the PS3 is handling the game, it has to do with EAs crappy porting skills.[/QUOTE]
You fail to realize that the PS3, 360, and PC versions all have to to completely recoded for them to run. Who recodes them? EA. Who pays EA? Valve. Valve doesn't want to pay EA to port it to the PS3 as well as the 360 because they do a shit job at it, but they obviously have a contract with EA stating that EA and only EA will do the porting for Valve.
You also fail to realize that Valve makes pc games, not console games. They extended to 360 first because the 360 is made by Microsoft, and very similar to the pc. The PS3 is made by Sony, and isn't going to be nearly as similar to the 360\PC, thus generating more work for EA to do, more money for Valve to have to pay, and more of a chance for a shitty port from EA.
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;15506284]uhm, YOU are the one using abusive language[/QUOTE]
You don't make a thread go to hell by using abusive language. You make a thread go to hell by derailing it (like you did) and start an argument that is just stupid (which you did).
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506304]You don't make a thread go to hell by using abusive language. You make a thread go to hell by derailing it (like you did) and start an argument that is just stupid (which you did).[/QUOTE]Why don't you make like an Engi and teleport outta' here.
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506304]You don't make a thread go to hell by using abusive language. You make a thread go to hell by derailing it (like you did) and start an argument that is just stupid (which you did).[/QUOTE]
No, it was asked if it would be a good idea, we provided the proof that not only is it NOT a good idea, but it won't happen. Then the PS3 fanboys went apeshit because we disgraced their console.
And no, I'm not a fanboy. I own a PC, 360, and my grandpa has a PS3 (mostly for blu ray movies as it was cheaper then a blu ray player at the time), and I play them all and can acknowledge that they all have their pros and cons.
[QUOTE=VassikinX3;15506298]You fail to realize that the PS3, 360, and PC versions all have to to completely recoded for them to run. Who recodes them? EA. Who pays EA? Valve. Valve doesn't want to pay EA to port it to the PS3 as well as the 360 because they do a shit job at it, but they obviously have a contract with EA stating that EA and only EA will do the porting for Valve.
You also fail to realize that Valve makes pc games, not console games. They extended to 360 first because the 360 is made by Microsoft, and very similar to the pc. The PS3 is made by Sony, and isn't going to be nearly as similar to the 360\PC, thus generating more work for EA to do, more money for Valve to have to pay, and more of a chance for a shitty port from EA.[/QUOTE]
I'm not failing to realize anything. I KNOW that. I also know that Valve spends the money to let EA do it, and that that frees up time for them to do the PC and 360 versions.
DUH EA does a shit job. I know that. But I'd honestly prefer a bad game to no game. EA did a shit job, yes, and the Orange Box PS3 sucked [i]in comparison[/i] to the PC and 360 versions, yes. But EVEN SO, the PS3 version always got at least 8/10 or 4/5. If there are any lower scores, I doubt there are more than one or two.
YOU fail to realize that EA HAS EXPERIENCE coding for the PS3, and thus SHOULD know how to port a game from PC to PS3.
[QUOTE=Uzi-Face;15489177]Gabe Newell should totally make this happen because my computer is utter shit.[/QUOTE]
well buy a new pc, dipshit
[QUOTE=VassikinX3;15506349]No, it was asked if it would be a good idea, we provided the proof that not only is it NOT a good idea, but it won't happen. Then the PS3 fanboys went apeshit because we disgraced their console.
And no, I'm not a fanboy. I own a PC, 360, and my grandpa has a PS3 (mostly for blu ray movies as it was cheaper then a blu ray player at the time), and I play them all and can acknowledge that they all have their pros and cons.[/QUOTE]
I'm not calling you a fanboy unless you come up with useless crap like the other guy.
What the other guy did to piss us off and start the flame war was say "PS3 can't handle the Source Engine," which everyone here either knows is a load of shit or just doesn't want to admit it.
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506384]I'm not calling you a fanboy unless you come up with useless crap like the other guy.
What the other guy did to piss us off and start the flame war was say "PS3 can't handle the Source Engine," which everyone here either knows is a load of shit or just doesn't want to admit it.[/QUOTE]
No he said it can't handle it properly then me and he him backed it up over and over again while you lawl'd as if you didn't have to coherently respond
[quote]I'm not failing to realize anything. I KNOW that. I also know that Valve spends the money to let EA do it, and that that frees up time for them to do the PC and 360 versions.[/quote]
No, it doesn't "free up" time, it's because Valve doesn't WANT to do it, but financially it's the best option for them. And they don't work on the 360 version, they make the PC version and then EA takes a shit on it for a consolel
[quote]DUH EA does a shit job. I know that. But I'd honestly prefer a bad game to no game. EA did a shit job, yes, and the Orange Box PS3 sucked [i]in comparison[/i] to the PC and 360 versions, yes. But EVEN SO, the PS3 version always got at least 8/10 or 4/5. If there are any lower scores, I doubt there are more than one or two.
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No, it just sucked. I played it on all 3 versions, and the 360\ps3 versions both failed horribly. And the rating is probably for the game overall. Not the port. They rate the whole orange box, not one rating for each version.
[quote]YOU fail to realize that EA HAS EXPERIENCE coding for the PS3, and thus SHOULD know how to port a game from PC to PS3.[/quote]
No, I know they have done it before, but they had a shot at it with the Orange Box, and they failed to do it. Just because they've done it before doesn't mean they got better with each shot.
i don't even know why you're arguing anymore, the op said he wants ep3 on the ps3, we have pointed out why it's not going to happen, and you just start calling anyone who disagrees with you a fanboy
[QUOTE=Markntosh;15506384]I'm not calling you a fanboy unless you come up with useless crap like the other guy.
What the other guy did to piss us off and start the flame war was say "PS3 can't handle the Source Engine," which everyone here either knows is a load of shit or just doesn't want to admit it.[/QUOTE]
He didn't say that it can't handle it, he said that it can't handle it [B]PROPERLY[/B]. And you're bitching about people twisting YOUR words?
Sure the anti-ps3 argument DOES have some BS points, but you have way more.
[QUOTE=VassikinX3;15506440]He didn't say that it can't handle it, he said that it can't handle it [B]PROPERLY[/B]. And you're bitching about people twisting YOUR words?
Sure the anti-ps3 argument DOES have some BS points, but you have way more.[/QUOTE]
He said it isn't powerful enough to handle source, it is powerful enough but shitty ports are at fault here not the PS3.
I think Valve should learn to code for PS3 and stop being lazy. Saying it's a waste of time is stupid it show to me laziness. Other companies have learned to code for it and it's showing with these new awesome games coming out.
[QUOTE=DementNeo;15506412]No he said it can't handle it properly then me and he him backed it up over and over again while you lawl'd as if you didn't have to coherently respond[/QUOTE]
And I HAVE backed up my point yet you and he continue to ignore everything I say.
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[QUOTE=VassikinX3;15506420]No, it doesn't "free up" time, it's because Valve doesn't WANT to do it, but financially it's the best option for them. And they don't work on the 360 version, they make the PC version and then EA takes a shit on it for a consolel
No, it just sucked. I played it on all 3 versions, and the 360\ps3 versions both failed horribly. And the rating is probably for the game overall. Not the port. They rate the whole orange box, not one rating for each version.
No, I know they have done it before, but they had a shot at it with the Orange Box, and they failed to do it. Just because they've done it before doesn't mean they got better with each shot.[/QUOTE]
The 360 version was made by Valve, so if it sucked, that was Valve's fault. Only the PS3 version was done by EA.
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[QUOTE=VassikinX3;15506440]He didn't say that it can't handle it, he said that it can't handle it [B]PROPERLY[/B]. And you're bitching about people twisting YOUR words?
Sure the anti-ps3 argument DOES have some BS points, but you have way more.[/QUOTE]
And I'm saying that's a load of crap, as it works perfectly fin in games like Portal and I rarely have a problem in Ep 2.
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[QUOTE=itchyflakes;15506511]He said it isn't powerful enough to handle source, it is powerful enough but shitty ports are at fault here not the PS3.
I think Valve should learn to code for PS3 and stop being lazy. Saying it's a waste of time is stupid it show to me laziness. Other companies have learned to code for it and it's showing with these new awesome games coming out.[/QUOTE]
Finally! SOMEONE that's sane!
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