Planetside 2 Thread v2 - Beta floodgates open GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY - Games

[QUOTE=The golden;38065485]I'm starting to come to the realization that I made a mistake by joining the TR. NC and VS stuff is just vastly superior in every way.[/QUOTE] Every empire said that.

[QUOTE=The golden;38065485]I'm starting to come to the realization that I made a mistake by joining the TR. NC and VS stuff is just vastly superior in every way.[/QUOTE] Not VS.

[QUOTE=The golden;38065683]Madrider.[/QUOTE] What about it? I'd say it's slightly better than the Prowler overall, but not superior in every way.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;38065707]What about it? I'd say it's slightly better than the Prowler overall, but not superior in every way.[/QUOTE] Holy shit are you serious? The magrider is the biggest farmmobile in the entire game. And always has been.

I don't get framerate issues, my sound stutters. It gets really annoying just from an immersion standpoint but I can deal with it :v:

[url]http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/novs-definitive-tank-discussion.27350/[/url] Vanguard and Prowler are tied for second, Vanguard is clearly superior to both. Common misconception with the Prowler gun is that both barrels need to hit to deal the same damage as the other factions guns. This is not true. Each shot does more than half of the other tanks shots. Given pilots of the same accuracy the Prowler will do more damage over a fight. Magrider is the most mobile and accurate, but suffers from horrible gun position and almost complete lack of awareness side to side. [editline]16th October 2012[/editline] If the Vanguard was slower and Prower's guns recoil or dispersion were toned down I'd say the vehicles would all be pretty balanced.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;38065886][url]http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/novs-definitive-tank-discussion.27350/[/url] Vanguard and Prowler are tied for second, Vanguard is clearly superior to both. Common misconception with the Prowler gun is that both barrels need to hit to deal the same damage as the other factions guns. This is not true. Each shot does more than half of the other tanks shots. Given pilots of the same accuracy the Prowler will do more damage over a fight. Magrider is the most mobile and accurate, but suffers from horrible gun position and almost complete lack of awareness side to side. [editline]16th October 2012[/editline] If the Vanguard was slower and Prower's guns recoil or dispersion were toned down I'd say the vehicles would all be pretty balanced.[/QUOTE] Theorycraft and theorycraft only. Magrider is king. Move along.

Secondary vehicle options are balanced between NC and VS, with VS having a slight advantage with the Saron. TR get hosed on secondary turret guns, the 20mm is seriously the best for them. [editline]16th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=NoDachi;38065936]Theorycraft and theorycraft only. Magrider is king. Move along.[/QUOTE] It's not theorycraft, I have played several dozen hours as each faction and I agree with his summarization. [editline]16th October 2012[/editline] Confirmation bias up in this.

[QUOTE=The golden;38065993]I think the fact that Magrider tank columns are so unstoppable speaks for itself.[/QUOTE] I see unstoppable tank columns for every side, it's called having more tanks than the other guys. 3v2 Prowlers vs Mag Prowlers will win. [QUOTE]The TR gets hosed in almost every area - especially when compared to the NC. NC weapons and vehicles blow TR stuff out of the fucking water. Whoever balanced this game needs to be punched in the face.[/QUOTE] Because as already been stated NC have a noticeable advantage when it comes to MBT's and infantry weapons. Also for the record I have had great fights as VS against TR on west coast Indar the past few days. They push Allatum, we push Dahaka, great fights inbetween. Maybe TR on your server suck?

[QUOTE=Raidyr;38065947]It's not theorycraft, I have played several dozen hours as each faction and I agree with his summarization. [editline]16th October 2012[/editline] Confirmation bias up in this.[/QUOTE] Well so have I. And I disagree. The vanguard is slow ass HA food. My VS mag pilot has a KDR over 33 right now. WIth over 400 kills. There have been several long winded threads saying X tank is better than Y and so forth. They're all equally illegitimate theorycraft, limited in scope and flawed in intellectual seriousness.

Every time I've gone 1 on 1 with a Magrider just shelling eachothers front armor my Vanguard always wins. I still really fucking like the Magrider though.

[QUOTE=Squeaken;38066063]Every time I've gone 1 on 1 with a Magrider just shelling eachothers front armor my Vanguard always wins. I still really fucking like the Magrider though.[/QUOTE] But you're seriously doing something wrong if you reduce your tanking abilities to simply trading shots against frontal armour.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;38066080]But you're seriously doing something wrong if you reduce your tanking abilities to simply trading shots against frontal armour.[/QUOTE] It doesn't happen often, just when something stupid happens like I drive around a corner and run right into one. [editline]17th October 2012[/editline] Also just as another note the Vanguard shield seems infinitely more useful in tank combat than the other factions abilities. The lockdown and speed boost have situational advantages, but I can't think of any scenario where a shield wouldn't be useful.

[QUOTE=The golden;38066082]Then that is a serious flaw and it needs to be addressed immediately. I can understand vehicles being better than others in certain situations but having your infantry weapons being overall better is a monumentally bad idea. The actual core gampelay (the stuff that actually wins battles) is done on foot as a infantryman. Having one side vastly superior to the others int his area is extremely stupid.[/QUOTE] I don't disagree. It's less that VS/NC are vastly superior, its just that the TR ones are really bad. [QUOTE=NoDachi;38066036]Well so have I. And I disagree. The vanguard is slow ass HA food. My VS mag pilot has a KDR over 33 right now. WIth over 400 kills. There have been several long winded threads saying X tank is better than Y and so forth. They're all equally illegitimate theorycraft, limited in scope and flawed in intellectual seriousness.[/QUOTE] And I disagree. Prowler is technically my best tank, performance wise. [editline]16th October 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Squeaken;38066146]It doesn't happen often, just when something stupid happens like I drive around a corner and run right into one. [editline]17th October 2012[/editline] Also just as another note the Vanguard shield seems infinitely more useful in tank combat than the other factions abilities. The lockdown and speed boost have situational advantages, but I can't think of any scenario where a shield wouldn't be useful.[/QUOTE] Vanguard shield and boost are both decent, lockdown is situational.

[QUOTE=Squeaken;38066146]It doesn't happen often, just when something stupid happens like I drive around a corner and run right into one.[/QUOTE] Just mag boost past him and pivot around. You'll be facing him before he can turn himself.

[QUOTE=NoDachi;38066247]Just mag boost past him and pivot around. You'll be facing him before he can turn himself.[/QUOTE] I drive a Vanguard.

[QUOTE=Mindfuck 2;38065502]Then again, VS and NC are also faggots. [editline]17th October 2012[/editline] Plus we now have a super shotgun.[/QUOTE] Every faction has a 'super shotgun'. In fact, if you wanted to talk about super shotguns you would be talking about the NC Jackhammer, which is redundant in that it also kills in one shot.

I prefer the Lightening, especially coming up behind the Prowlers and Magriders. Tear shit up and leave.

Ugh tonight is just not the night for PS2 for me Everytime I come on it's pitch black night so I can't see shit unless I'm in a base somewhere, which is bad when you want to record footage of how to use the default VS sniper well. Especially since sniping at night is 3X harder when you can't see enemies unless you are right on top (though it does have a nice benefit of being reallllllyy good for base infiltration, but that's not what I'm trying to do!). And to make matters worse, literally EVERYWHERE I've been for some reason has been 80% enemy tanks, 20% infantry (which are super hard to see since for some reason night time is almost pitch black now). So I just keep constantly dieing from random explosions or being run over, while I already can't see shit except for said explosions. I guess it looks pretty though! SIGH

Magrider would be much more balanced if the shot was slower. It's too easy to snipe with the gun compared to the other factions, yet it does almost the same damage as the Prowler's or Vanguard's cannon.

[QUOTE=Saber15;38066878]Magrider would be much more balanced if the shot was slower. It's too easy to snipe with the gun compared to the other factions, yet it does almost the same damage as the Prowler's or Vanguard's cannon.[/QUOTE] Prowler does slightly less with one shot landed, Vanguard does slightly more. Prowler landing both shots does noticeably more than either. [editline]16th October 2012[/editline] I wouldn't be against flatter shell trajectories in all tanks though.

I wish they would just increase the projectile speed of the base lightning turret so it didn't suck as much, then I would feel alot better about using it. I'm having fun with the Prowler, but I love the speed of the Lightning. I plan on getting the HEAT cannon for it, which (I think) has decent shell velocity so it shouldn't be as bad.

I just want a prone position because I'm already bright blue and yellow I don't need to stand out any more than I already am

What did all of you guys join? I went with Vanu.

[QUOTE=SpartanV2;38069008]What did all of you guys join? I went with Vanu.[/QUOTE] scum. nc all the way

nc here [QUOTE=The golden;38069128]Enjoy your easymode guns.[/QUOTE] sure they have higher damage values but the bullets move so slow and arc like artillery. vanu is just point and click

[QUOTE=DarkZero135;38069028]scum. nc all the way[/QUOTE] TR for life... Even though I'm about to say fuck it and go VS.

Unaligned master race. I just play what race i feel like that day :v:

[QUOTE=The golden;38069991]I guess that explains why the NC have just pushed us to our warpgate on Thebe/Indar and we cannot get out because the NC just tear us to shreds. [editline]17th October 2012[/editline] There is no reason to play TR. They are so underpowered.[/QUOTE] Don't worry. Once SOE finally nerf the COF on all NC primaries, balance will be restored as it once was. Seriously, I like being completely unstoppable and all, but a pinpoint accurate sub-machine gun just makes me feel bad for everyone.

Wtf medics can revive maxes?