[QUOTE=Malumbre;18696575]Why not? How many people do you think are on a server? If 10,000 people were willing to pay to play the old game, that's a lot of money for Blizzard. How much effort could it take on their behalf?[/QUOTE]
So on the one hand they offer it for free and use a load of development hours reverting everything to what it was like back then, instead of working on bug fixing the current game and making Cata resulting in delays and bugs staying in longer.
or
They charge some money for players to revert in which case people will complain en mass about how they already have the original game and shouldn't have to pay extra, resulting on low take-up by people which will quickly fall to nothing thanks to the server being unpopulated.
Speaking about vanilla and population on servers. Trollbane EU is like totally dead, which is why it's such a great realm to have pre-tbc guilds at. It is a terrible realm unless you'd join one of the pre-tbc guilds.
Also, did blizzard really state vanilla realms never would happen?
I recall reading that they "don't intend implementing it in any near future".
Its been stated several times by blizzard that it would be no simple task reverting the game back to vanilla
[QUOTE=Hellsten;18696651]Speaking about vanilla and population on servers. Trollbane EU is like totally dead, which is why it's such a great realm to have pre-tbc guilds at. It is a terrible realm unless you'd join one of the pre-tbc guilds.
Also, did blizzard really state vanilla realms never would happen?
I recall reading that they "don't intend implementing it in any near future".[/QUOTE]
[url]http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=3405101623&sid=1[/url]
Here they mentioned what you said.
[QUOTE=Profanwolf;18696586]Theres millions who play, wake up.[/QUOTE]
No shit Sherlock. I'm saying 10,000 who want to play vanilla should be enough to get a couple servers up. It will generate MORE money. Second accounts and old players returning.
To be honest, BC was a Lot more better than vanilla, and wotlk.. well it's what it is.
I hate people coming here saying vanilla was better even though it wasn't.
If you wanted the best pvp gear available in game you had to farm 800k-million honor a day to get rank14 for weapons on a good server. As for PvE, without the token system, you simply had to farm your ass off in AQ40/Naxx40.
Either go no-life and pwnzor with imba gear or stay blue UBRS geared. Also, PvE gear dominated over PvP items, so battlegrounds were ridiculous. I still remember doing AB with a private healer in 4/5 AQ40 set + random AQ40+Naxx40 items on my hunter, and I wasn't even that good back then.
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So, only the people who actually raided through Vanilla or farmed rank 13-14 has the right to say Vanilla was better, if they really liked the way you had to play in order to be competent.
[QUOTE=varj;18697709]To be honest, BC was a Lot more better than vanilla, and wotlk.. well it's what it is.
I hate people coming here saying vanilla was better even though it wasn't.
If you wanted the best pvp gear available in game you had to farm 800k-million honor a day to get rank14 for weapons on a good server. As for PvE, without the token system, you simply had to farm your ass off in AQ40/Naxx40.
Either go no-life and pwnzor with imba gear or stay blue UBRS geared. Also, PvE gear dominated over PvP items, so battlegrounds were ridiculous. I still remember doing AB with a private healer in 4/5 AQ40 set + random AQ40+Naxx40 items on my hunter, and I wasn't even that good back then.
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So, only the people who actually raided through Vanilla or farmed rank 13-14 has the right to say Vanilla was better, if they really liked the way you had to play in order to be competent.[/QUOTE]
Restro druid saying BC was better?
[QUOTE=varj;18697709]To be honest, BC was a Lot more better than vanilla, and wotlk.. well it's what it is.
I hate people coming here saying vanilla was better even though it wasn't.
If you wanted the best pvp gear available in game you had to farm 800k-million honor a day to get rank14 for weapons on a good server. As for PvE, without the token system, you simply had to farm your ass off in AQ40/Naxx40.
Either go no-life and pwnzor with imba gear or stay blue UBRS geared. Also, PvE gear dominated over PvP items, so battlegrounds were ridiculous. I still remember doing AB with a private healer in 4/5 AQ40 set + random AQ40+Naxx40 items on my hunter, and I wasn't even that good back then.
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So, only the people who actually raided through Vanilla or farmed rank 13-14 has the right to say Vanilla was better, if they really liked the way you had to play in order to be competent.[/QUOTE]
You know too much about WoW, go outside.
[QUOTE=varj;18697709]items on my hunter[/QUOTE]
This pretty much ruined your entire argument, seeing as how Hunters were stupidly easy at PvP in Vanilla... It seriously took no skill what so ever, much like most the game nowadays.
[QUOTE=sasuke0991;18699429]This pretty much ruined your entire argument, seeing as how Hunters were stupidly easy at PvP in Vanilla... It seriously took no skill what so ever, much like most the game nowadays.[/QUOTE]
Yeah right.. Being a hunter wasn't the point of my post.
Did you really have to do that? My post was right, and it doesn't change a thing even if I used to be a hunter. A well geared warrior, even mage, could dominate vanilla BG's just as easily.
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[QUOTE=Malumbre;18698199]You know too much about WoW, go outside.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know that as well. Damnit!
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;18696659]Its been stated several times by blizzard that it would be no simple task reverting the game back to vanilla[/QUOTE]
You do know you are being lied to right? Blizzard keeps all there patches stored somewhere, and multiple back ups of them as well.
Why would you want an unbalanced game anyways? A lot of work has been done since WoW's release to balance and expand on classes.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18711999]Why would you want an unbalanced game anyways? A lot of work has been done since WoW's release to balance and expand on classes.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely right.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18711999]Why would you want an unbalanced game anyways? A lot of work has been done since WoW's release to balance and expand on classes.[/QUOTE]
Unbalanced for whom? It's always unbalanced depending on who you ask.
Yes but with resil at least you stand somewhat of a chance.
Back then the OP classes would just one shot you.
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;18712827]Yes but with resil at least you stand somewhat of a chance.
Back then the OP classes would just one shot you.[/QUOTE]
Resilience? I need to get me some of that.
Jesus.. You guys are speaking of balance or imbalance like skill had no factor at all in gameplay.
Countless of times I've beaten a counter-class/counter-comp by truly outplaying them.
I've also countered others 100-0 and got my ass handed to me simply because they were just great at playing.
[QUOTE=varj;18713997]Jesus.. You guys are speaking of balance or imbalance like skill had no factor at all in gameplay.
Countless of times I've beaten a counter-class/counter-comp by truly outplaying them.
I've also countered others 100-0 and got my ass handed to me simply because they were just great at playing.[/QUOTE]
k m8
[QUOTE=varj;18713997]Jesus.. You guys are speaking of balance or imbalance like skill had no factor at all in gameplay.
Countless of times I've beaten a counter-class/counter-comp by truly outplaying them.
I've also countered others 100-0 and got my ass handed to me simply because they were just great at playing.[/QUOTE]
bad, seriously stop posting
[QUOTE=varj;18713997]Jesus.. You guys are speaking of balance or imbalance like skill had no factor at all in gameplay.[/QUOTE]
This.
As fun as pre-TBC was back then, I can assure you if this were to ever happen, you would get bored rather quickly. Azeroth just can't compare the Outland and Northrend in terms of quests, factions, instances, etc. It would be a thrill be to relive some of the those of old raid dungeons or be there at the opening of Ahn'Qiraj, but there wouldn't be any lasting interest.
[QUOTE=Wiggles;18715185]As fun as pre-TBC was back then, I can assure you if this were to ever happen, you would get bored rather quickly. Azeroth just can't compare the Outland and Northrend in terms of quests, factions, instances, etc. It would be a thrill be to relive some of the those of old raid dungeons or be there at the opening of Ahn'Qiraj, but there wouldn't be any lasting interest.[/QUOTE]
I had more fun doing end-game quests for attunement then I have out of all of the Lich King quests. TBC was another story though.
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[QUOTE=yawmwen;18711999]Why would you want an unbalanced game anyways? A lot of work has been done since WoW's release to balance and expand on classes.[/QUOTE]
It still isn't balanced. The war between pallies and shammies has been going on since release. TBC sort of evened it out by providing both factions with a class, but when it was still pre-bc, they we're constant qqing so they could be better then ech other
[QUOTE=varj;18713997]Jesus.. You guys are speaking of balance or imbalance like skill had no factor at all in gameplay.
Countless of times I've beaten a counter-class/counter-comp by truly outplaying them.
I've also countered others 100-0 and got my ass handed to me simply because they were just great at playing.[/QUOTE]
Yea, but at the same time the classes need to be balanced so that one class isn't ultimate PvP god/DPS/Tank. It's had a lot of work and there still is a lot of work left but some of you guys want to revert back to even poorer balance and work.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18726189]Yea, but at the same time the classes need to be balanced so that one class isn't ultimate PvP god/DPS/Tank. It's had a lot of work and there still is a lot of work left but some of you guys want to revert back to even poorer balance and work.[/QUOTE]
Everything was fine how it was on release. People who have emotional problems get a hold of the game, and grief starts.
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Keep up the good work champ!
Stop with the vanilla WoW, or let's go back directly to 1.0 and you'll remember how boring it was.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;18726918]Everything was fine how it was on release. People who have emotional problems get a hold of the game, and grief starts.[/QUOTE]
No it wasn't. Classes were unbalanced as fuck. Sure, people should learn how to play, but people should also be able to play the classes they want without getting spanked by noobs who happen to be playing an OP class.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;18727362]No it wasn't. Classes were unbalanced as fuck. Sure, people should learn how to play, but people should also be able to play the classes they want without getting spanked by noobs who happen to be playing an OP class.[/QUOTE]
No class was OP except for warlocks. The only QQ class was rogue and that was because it was so easy. If people knew how to play there class they wouldn't get spanked.
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Also pallies were good back then in my eyes, we only need you for buffs pallies! Do your old job!
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;18727829]No class was OP except for warlocks. The only QQ class was rogue and that was because it was so easy. If people knew how to play there class they wouldn't get spanked.
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Also pallies were good back then in my eyes, we only need you for buffs pallies! Do your old job![/QUOTE]
Actually it really was unbalanced.
[QUOTE=RidingKeys;18727829]No class was OP except for warlocks. The only QQ class was rogue and that was because it was so easy. If people knew how to play there class they wouldn't get spanked.
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Also pallies were good back then in my eyes, we only need you for buffs pallies! Do your old job![/QUOTE]
Yeah sorry, it was unbalanced.
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