[QUOTE=Fkpuz Version 1;28359890]I decided to play Urgot today before the patch hit
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Oh god, wtf?
[editline]1st March 2011[/editline]
Nice though.
really looking forward to this patch
I played a game right before servers went down. Was expecting to go to sleep afterward but now I am sitting here completely awake with nothing interesting to do.
/whistle
So far Ryze is my favorite, tomorrow I should have enough to buy a new champion ^_^
[QUOTE=Galardo;28360293]So far Ryze is my favorite, tomorrow I should have enough to buy a new champion ^_^[/QUOTE]
If you're just getting started I would suggest saving your IP until level 20.
Playing free champions until then can give you a good idea of who you enjoy playing and when you hit level 20 you can buy tier 3 runes and have an advantage over people who have been spending IP on champions / lower tier runes.
Still on the fence about Jaeorvaen, he [I]looks[/I] good, but so did Caitlyn and Karma.
I'm a bit dissappointed in Maokai not getting any buffs :mad:
Although I welcome the Ezreal buff!
Really needed that as Trueshot Barrage is the only viable skill he got that scales AD
Looks like I'll be buying Jarvan just for the fun of it. (Although I bet he'll get nerfed right away next patch) :v:
I like Maokai, but I agree he can use a buff.
Anyone up for 3v3 on EU? I'm flubadoo on there too. I also have NA, but use EU for backup.
patch notes last night?
spotlight last night?
gentlemen i think we can expect that this update will be released on time.
and watch it get delayed.
Singed
* Fixed a bug that was causing Poison Trail to have a 1 second cooldown upon activation
the cooldown was a bug?
Hey, thanks for all the Shen help, guys. I tried playing using your advice and I did a whole lot better. Getting Aegis early on really helped a lot.
Two guys on my team started fighting and one of them ragequitted, so we ended up losing, but I was doing better than I usually did.
Someone on my team told me not to get Aegis, and suggested Rylai's and Warmogs. Would getting those be a good idea? I figured rylai's wouldn't be so good because AP shen seems a lot less useful than Tank Shen, but I'm not sure about Warmogs. It gives a ton of health, and that's always good, right?
I'm surprised that this patch made me happy. Garen buff, left my precious Evelynn alone. <3
Maokai doesn't need a buff to be viable but a little one would make him sweet :D
Can't wait for Jarvan
Evelynn needs some buffs furi so I wouldn't worry about nerfs lmao
Ward buff + minion buff should be el oh el. I foresee strong laners being fucking super OP as a result. Also know that Sion isn't a strong laner anymore, neither is Nasus, Morg, etc etc.
[QUOTE=suppertime;28361832]Maokai doesn't need a buff to be viable but a little one would make him sweet :D
Can't wait for Jarvan
Evelynn needs some buffs furi so I wouldn't worry about nerfs lmao
Ward buff + minion buff should be el oh el. I foresee strong laners being fucking super OP as a result. Also know that Sion isn't a strong laner anymore, neither is Nasus, Morg, etc etc.[/QUOTE]
I'd jizz in my pants if they buffed Evelynn. I'd dare say that she is one of my best, if not my best, character.
I also think, Jarvan might be the first champ I actually buy. Since I get about 50-70 ip per game, and I need 4k, this is going to take a while.
I love Jarvan's ulti.....
Because my main is Kassa.
kogmaw buff plz because i can
I was really surprised we could even pull this one off xD
First time Nunu for the win! :v:
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[QUOTE=suppertime;28355537]I think 350 wins qualifies him to try and tell people how to play especially with your Karma avatar turning me off.
[editline]28th February 2011[/editline]
Shit that's an on time spotlight, maybe patch won't be late?
[editline]28th February 2011[/editline]
Rapid move speed + initiation = so op[/QUOTE]
Hi. Wins mean nothing. June has played more than me yet I am infinitely better. Im probably better than you too. I just broke 200 wins yesterday. People with 700 wins feed all the time. I ranked with 400 ranked win players and have to teach them how to play the game. Pure skill is natural and playing 247 can only get you so far.
[editline]1st March 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=FuriCooly;28361875]I'd jizz in my pants if they buffed Evelynn. I'd dare say that she is one of my best, if not my best, character.
I also think, Jarvan might be the first champ I actually buy. Since I get about 50-70 ip per game, and I need 4k, this is going to take a while.[/QUOTE]
Bet I'm better.
[QUOTE=77boy84;28361681]Hey, thanks for all the Shen help, guys. I tried playing using your advice and I did a whole lot better. Getting Aegis early on really helped a lot.
Two guys on my team started fighting and one of them ragequitted, so we ended up losing, but I was doing better than I usually did.
Someone on my team told me not to get Aegis, and suggested Rylai's and Warmogs. Would getting those be a good idea? I figured rylai's wouldn't be so good because AP shen seems a lot less useful than Tank Shen, but I'm not sure about Warmogs. It gives a ton of health, and that's always good, right?[/QUOTE]
Doesn't ki strike have health scaling? If so, an early health item wrecks. I think warmogs on when is a good idea. Along with randuins, thornmail and fon. Bveil is not a good idea on tanks and neither is guardian angel.
[QUOTE=valiant.;28362370]Doesn't ki strike have health scaling? If so, an early health item wrecks. I think warmogs on when is a good idea. Along with randuins, thornmail and fon. Bveil is not a good idea on tanks and neither is guardian angel.[/QUOTE]
I think rylai's is better than warmog for shen since it adds a slow to his vorpal blade which gives you another cc.
[QUOTE=77boy84;28361681]Hey, thanks for all the Shen help, guys. I tried playing using your advice and I did a whole lot better. Getting Aegis early on really helped a lot.
Two guys on my team started fighting and one of them ragequitted, so we ended up losing, but I was doing better than I usually did.
Someone on my team told me not to get Aegis, and suggested Rylai's and Warmogs. Would getting those be a good idea? I figured rylai's wouldn't be so good because AP shen seems a lot less useful than Tank Shen, but I'm not sure about Warmogs. It gives a ton of health, and that's always good, right?[/QUOTE]
No, not Warmog.
Rylai, could be and item to get, COULD if the enemy lacks damage.
[editline]1st March 2011[/editline]
Also, time to play Crysis 2 Demo while LoL is down. :smug:
[editline]1st March 2011[/editline]
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
Do I log in with Gamespy id or with Crysis id?
If so..
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[QUOTE=77boy84;28361681]Hey, thanks for all the Shen help, guys. I tried playing using your advice and I did a whole lot better. Getting Aegis early on really helped a lot.
Two guys on my team started fighting and one of them ragequitted, so we ended up losing, but I was doing better than I usually did.
Someone on my team told me not to get Aegis, and suggested Rylai's and Warmogs. Would getting those be a good idea? I figured rylai's wouldn't be so good because AP shen seems a lot less useful than Tank Shen, but I'm not sure about Warmogs. It gives a ton of health, and that's always good, right?[/QUOTE]
Those items are far too expensive. Shen is a horrible farmer. Aegis of Legion, Leviathan, Mercury Threads and Giant's Belt/Megatron Cloak/Heart of Gold are the items Shen really needs because not only they are all cheap to get but they are also pure tank items. You need the pure tank items because you have to soak all the damage. If the enemy spends all their skills on you it creates a huge opening for your team. Rylai's will just allow you to poke a bit better and not let enemies escape but that's not much use when you're dead. Warmogs is just way too expensive and you'll never get it finished. You need some quick tank items as fast as possible to make your team win the smaller fights early game, and the teamfights mid game. Also if you don't rush those tank items early game their (ranged) carry will just completely blow you away rendering you an useless tank.
[QUOTE=77boy84;28361681]Hey, thanks for all the Shen help, guys. I tried playing using your advice and I did a whole lot better. Getting Aegis early on really helped a lot.
Two guys on my team started fighting and one of them ragequitted, so we ended up losing, but I was doing better than I usually did.
Someone on my team told me not to get Aegis, and suggested Rylai's and Warmogs. Would getting those be a good idea? I figured rylai's wouldn't be so good because AP shen seems a lot less useful than Tank Shen, but I'm not sure about Warmogs. It gives a ton of health, and that's always good, right?[/QUOTE]
Those people are fucking morons and should get run over by an 18 wheeler.
Rylai's is an AP item. I only get that as a very last item for shits and giggles, otherwise just keep getting tank. Warmog's does nothing for your tank and would be a pain to farm up. Lot's of HP doesn't reduce damage.
[QUOTE=Banned?;28362911]Those people are fucking morons and should get run over by an 18 wheeler.
Rylai's is an AP item. [B]I only get that as a very last item for shits and giggles,[/B] otherwise just keep getting tank.[B] Warmog's does nothing for your tank and would be a pain to farm up. Lot's of HP doesn't reduce damage.[/B][/QUOTE]
This.
Banned is right. :)
[QUOTE=BiscuitCookie;28362455]I think rylai's is better than warmog for shen since it adds a slow to his vorpal blade which gives you another cc.[/QUOTE]
Yeah warmog just makes you stupid big without giving you reduction (although with runes + base stats your reduction isn't too bad) rylai's gives your ki strike nice scaling (it DOES scale of HP but not enough to warrant warmogs) rylai isn't that good though since even though the slow is nice shen's main utility is taunting + ulti'ing
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Every 8 seconds, Shen's next attack deals 15-100 (depending on Shen's level (10 + (5 * level)) (+3.5% of his maximum health) bonus magic damage. Whenever an enemy champion hits Shen with a basic attack, the cooldown is reduced by 2 seconds.
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Shen's HP
513 base, 85 per level, @ level 18 - 2043
@ level 9 - 1278
Warmog's
920 hp + 450 hp (100 minion kills, -10 per kill/assist)
Cost: 3000g
Warmog's @ level 9 ki strike damage: (2198 HP no stacks, 2648 HP full stacks)
Ki strike deals 76.93 -- 92.68 bonus damage + 55
~ 140 avg
Without warmog's @ 9: (hp = 1278)
Ki strike deals 44.73 + 55
~ 100 avg
@ level 18 (2963 no stacks, 3413 max stacks)
Ki strike deals 103.75 -- 119.455 bonus damage + 100
~212 avg
without warmogs (2043 hp)
ki striek deals 71.5 + 100
~172 avg
That's a bonus of ~40 damage every 8 seconds, most it will ever be is ~60 and the least it will ever be is ~20
Definitely not worth 3k if the only reason you're getting it is HP + ki strike.
With aegis. (cost) 1925g
Damage @ 9 (hp 1548)
55 + 54.18 = ~110
Damage @ 18 (hp 2313)
100 + 80.95 = ~180
Long story short: don't stack HP for your passive. It's a nice passive, good for harassing early game and adds a little punch every now and then late game. It goes perfectly with your taunt. Just don't stack HP for your passive. Yes build a few HP items (sunfire gets the nod for helping you push since you're pretty bad at it, but don't build this second unless you're against an AD team)
Question, when is warmog's good? Please don't say mundo because you could just build other things to be the shit. Is warmog's into atma's even that good?
Warmog's max hp bonus: 1370 AD
Atma's 2% bonus: 27.4 AD
Meh, you decide. Whatever you do, never stack warmog's
[b]I remember[/b]
Guardsman bob said that Aegis of the Legion, Ninja Tabi and Doran's Shield, are the only defensive items that yield a positive bonus as far as value for gold is concerned.
Also stacking defensive items is usually bad because offensive items are usually better costed (ie more efficient) and thus you'll fall behind and die.
Shen + Aegis = Match made in heaven.
[QUOTE=Daniellynet;28362949]This.
Banned is right. :)[/QUOTE]
Shen is my best character. I know what I'm talking about.
Trust me.
[img]http://lol-leaks.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/surgeon_shen.jpg[/img]
I'm a doctor.
E: On Warmog's, I think the only character I would really consider Warmog's on is Olaf because his damage goes up proportionality with his health via Vicious Strikes. Certainly not as a first item however.
[QUOTE=Banned?;28363014]Shen is my best character. I know what I'm talking about.
Trust me.
[img_thumb]http://lol-leaks.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/surgeon_shen.jpg[/img_thumb]
I'm a doctor.
E: On Warmog's, I think the only character I would really consider Warmog's on is Olaf because his damage goes up proportionality with his health via Vicious Strikes.[/QUOTE]
Me too. :C
But I skipped some of the courses!
[QUOTE=Banned?;28363014]
E: On Warmog's, I think the only character I would really consider Warmog's on is Olaf because his damage goes up proportionality with his health via Vicious Strikes. Certainly not as a first item however.[/QUOTE]
Not really
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For 6 seconds, Olaf's attack damage is increased by a flat amount and 1% of his maximum health. He also gains lifesteal and spell vamp.
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Warmog's gives him ~15 extra damage while weakening his passive. Yay.
Side not, Olaf's ulti reduces true damage. What a boss eh? Only way in the game to reduce true damage.
[QUOTE=suppertime;28363115]Not really
Warmog's gives him ~15 extra damage while weakening his passive. Yay.
Side not, Olaf's ulti reduces true damage. What a boss eh? Only way in the game to reduce true damage.[/QUOTE]
Eh, it used to not suck.
Does it really? That's funny. Counter-pick Irelia. lol
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