Are there any? I mean, with combat like in DDO. Point and click combat is bad. Preferably free, doesn't have to be graphical.
Just because it's point and click doesn't mean its not skill based?
Age of Conan is mildly skill based.
You'll have to look up the dynamic shielding and attacking system on Youtube, it's pretty unique.
Planetside and Darkfall I believe.
World of Warcraft
Your only going to hear peoples opinions, Best thing to do is to read the op's of each mmo thread and decide from that.
[QUOTE=Conn92;19110355]Just because it's point and click doesn't mean its not skill based?[/QUOTE]
I mean something like instead of clicking on someone, you have to rely on the player's own skill to fight and win. Not the character's skills, but how well the player plays a game.
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[QUOTE=Wingedwizard;19110536]Your only going to hear peoples opinions, Best thing to do is to read the op's of each mmo thread and decide from that.[/QUOTE]
How can you be opinionated over whether or not the fighting in a game requires skill?
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[url]http://www.ddo.com/ddogameinfo/combat[/url]
Like this, but with only the melee and ranged combat things.
Like in Darkfall.
Mabinogi Heroes is skill based:
[url]http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=735278[/url]
[QUOTE=HeyMate;19111491]Can't believe anyone didn't mention Guildwars. It's 1000% skill based. No exception.[/QUOTE]
I think Guild Wars is a prime example of a game that ISN'T skill based.
Edit: Unless I missed the sarcasm. Hard to tell...
[QUOTE=Confused111;19110696]I mean something like instead of clicking on someone, you have to rely on the player's own skill to fight and win. Not the character's skills, but how well the player plays a game.
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[B]How can you be opinionated over whether or not the fighting in a game requires skill[/B]?
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[url]http://www.ddo.com/ddogameinfo/combat[/url]
Like this, but with only the melee and ranged combat things.
Like in Darkfall.[/QUOTE]
My opinion would be EVE online. Then people would disagree. blah blah. Just saying, Its going to happen.
[QUOTE=IAreJackass;19111582]I think Guild Wars is a prime example of a game that ISN'T skill based.
Edit: Unless I missed the sarcasm. Hard to tell...[/QUOTE]
Well yeah, actually, GW PvP is very much based on your skills rather than how much you've been grinding like in some MMO's.
of course the fact that nearly everyone uses the same goddamn flavour of the month builds kinda sucks the fun out of it, but hey that makes it all the more satisfying when I beat them with my half-assed mesmer build I shat out in half an hour
rumble fighter, dungeon fighter, dragonica
I don't mean skills as in strength, or speed, or even attack skills like in WoW, where you press a number key to do something like "Hurr Derp Whirlwind attack". I mean like looking around with the mouse, and clicking to swing your sword/shoot your bow/whatever.
[QUOTE=IAreJackass;19111582]I think Guild Wars is a prime example of a game that ISN'T skill based.
Edit: Unless I missed the sarcasm. Hard to tell...[/QUOTE]
Guild Wars is completely based around player skill. Max level, armor, and weapons are easily accessible, so you are forced to utilize skill.
And Guild Wards doesn't have a point-and-click combat system?
[QUOTE=postmanX3;19114702]Guild Wars is completely based around player skill. Max level, armor, and weapons are easily accessible, so you are forced to utilize skill.[/QUOTE]
Which is more like strategy, figuring out which skills to equip your char with. It's cool that Guild Wars does away with (most of) the grind-fest, but in the end, it comes down to using "skills" and clicking the left mouse button repeatedly on enemies, watching numbers pop up above their heads. I'm so fucking over that.
EVE Online.
You'll go fucking crazy with the amount of skill needed to even understand the first rung of the 2,000 rung ladder that is EVE Online.
If you want skill based mmos, try these games
City of Heroes/Villians
EVE Online
ACE online
Mabinogi (Not heroes, but anime theme version. I play with auto attack off, better than just letting the computer do it, although you wear down the sword faster, you land crits faster though.)
and a few I forgot (Will edit once I remeber)
If you want to play ACE online, is almost as crazy as EVE, but with only one plane/ship that you have, and if you like sci-fi stuff, this is the game for you. (Suggest that you go through the tutorial, or you will be guessing the controls while playing. Free to play.)
Pros: Nice graphics, action and skill based, many skills and weapons to obtain with all the plane types
Cons: Only one plane/ship you can have, four planes you can pilot (one per character), only 2 nations (once account is with one, your locked with that nation, untill deletion of all characters.)
Plane types are (called gears):
I-Gear (Fighter.Fast attacks and speed, low defense, need to upgrade that yourself by leveling.)
B-Gear (Bomber, and not ground bombing, heavy attacks.Now found out, has a ground bombing attack, makes missles curve down to ground.)
A-Gear (basicly a flying tank, that hovers on the ground. Prefect against both air and ground. Seperate ordinace from other gears.)
M-Gear (Support plane, like giving power boosts to you teammates type of support. Can also fight though, doesn't just sit back.)
Ace and Eve are okay, but I've played City of Heroes. You click on an enemy, run up to them, and attack, but you attack by pressing keys like 1, 2, 3 and so on.
EVE is probably your best bet, but be aware the learning curve is pretty steep. Thought not as bad as it used to be.
If you want, i could send you a 21 day trial
[QUOTE=Wingedwizard;19111996]My opinion would be EVE online. Then people would disagree. blah blah. Just saying, Its going to happen.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Systematik;19126290]EVE Online.
You'll go fucking crazy with the amount of skill needed to even understand the first rung of the 2,000 rung ladder that is EVE Online.[/QUOTE]
You both are wrong and confuse learning curve with skill.
[QUOTE=CammieDee666;19134205]EVE is probably your best bet, but be aware the learning curve is pretty steep. Thought not as bad as it used to be.
If you want, i could send you a 21 day trial[/QUOTE]
This man has it almost correct.
EVE Online is mostly based on numbers and knowing every single item, fitting, ship and pocket of space.
The simple rule is, the more people you have in your fleet with better ships, you win.
Skill-Based Game
MMO
Pick one.
[QUOTE=Factory;19134712]Skill-Based Game
MMO
Pick one.[/QUOTE]
derp derp i'm funy adn clevver, lukkit wut i thawt up
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Seriously. There are some, if few.
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I just can't seem to be able to find more than one :frown:
TERA online, it has monster hunter-esque combat style as far as I can remember from the trailers. I believe it's still in development though [url]http://www.tera-online.com/[/url]
And remember, it doesn't have to graphical. So it could be a MUD or something.
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[QUOTE=WPlayer;19134800]TERA online, it has monster hunter-esque combat style as far as I can remember from the trailers. I believe it's still in development though [url]http://www.tera-online.com/[/url][/QUOTE]
The voices in that game are terrible, but it looks fun.
[QUOTE=DuncanFrost;19112742]of course the fact that nearly everyone uses the same goddamn flavour of the month builds kinda sucks the fun out of it, but hey that makes it all the more satisfying when I beat them with my half-assed mesmer build I shat out in half an hour[/QUOTE]
Great minds think alike... and by think alike, I mean I am cancelling your casts and replacing them with my own. Mesmers FTW
But yeah, I wouldn't exactly call it entirely skill based... much of your ability comes from your build selection. The rest is about using them right. Skill is required, but not in the same manner you're looking for. Try Planetside, Darkfall (take this one with a grain of salt) or Mortal Online (when it comes out). These games are primarly based on player skill. Planetside is even less reliant on in-game skills as your Battle Rank (BR) only affects how many certification points you have, and cert points don't make you a better fighter, only a more versatile one. What I mean is, whether you're BR 6 or BR 25, the main assault rifle still does the same damage, but the BR 25 guy has more cert points available so he can use more stuff than the BR 6. He just can't use it any better or worse than the BR 6. It's an interesting method of rewarding players.
I've heard World War 2 Online is much like this, but has a learning curve not unlike that of EVE. Be prepared to invest a lot of time trying to understand what the fuck is going on.
It isn't out yet, but you should check Blade & Soul.
Like some other people have said, I would give Guild Wars a go.
Probably would want to start with Nightfall first since it gets fun faster than the first but still gives you time to learn and get adapted to it unlike Factions.
if you want to totally skip the grind in GW, just buy the core pack and the PvP access pack, you can't play any of the campaigns but you get access to every pvp area, all classes, and 40 or so free unlocks for skills
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