Gnomes, they have so much lore, it could fill at least twenty novels.
Should I give a level 60 Belf DK 260g to "flay mount"?
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Damit I mean Blood elf are great lore ppl
The beginning, with sargeras turning evilz and creating teh burning legi0n
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;19089098]Orcs in particular.[/QUOTE]
To add some things that I like about Orcs.
Before Thrall turned them into "Goody two-shoes" I fucking loved these guys, they would pillage whatever they wanted and whoever gave a damn about it got slaughtered on the spot.
I'm gonna love Garrosh for bringing the aspect of the Savagery back, But honor will still be around and that orgrim's gonna get a huge makeover resulting in alot of steel which will probably resemble WC2 building themes, like the ones in northrend.
What lore?
You mean the "excuse" for having to go grind some tokens by re-doing dungeons.
Cosmetic, if that isn't sarcasm I can easily explain that we're mostly talking about the lore before WoW Came out, in which it was solid and intact before, some people say, it got "Horribly fucked up and replaced"
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;19107231]Cosmetic, if that isn't sarcasm I can easily explain that we're mostly talking about the lore before WoW Came out, in which it was solid and intact before, some people say, it got "Horribly fucked up and replaced"[/QUOTE]
I know. It [i]was[/i] indeed sarcasm. :P
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;19107093]To add some things that I like about Orcs.
Before Thrall turned them into "Goody two-shoes" I fucking loved these guys, they would pillage whatever they wanted and whoever gave a damn about it got slaughtered on the spot.
I'm gonna love Garrosh for bringing the aspect of the Savagery back, But honor will still be around and that orgrim's gonna get a huge makeover resulting in alot of steel which will probably resemble WC2 building themes, like the ones in northrend.[/QUOTE]
I never thought about it like that, but still I prefer the Horde to be civilised rather than just being warmongering idiots, I mean look at Hellscream he started a war with the Night Elfs and ended up turning to demon blood because of this warmongering attitude.
I still say Thrall is much better as a warchief and Blizz better have a good reason for his absence.
hogger
who is he, where is he from, and what is his greater purpose
he role in azeroths fate is very underrated
[QUOTE=Shanto;19108668]I never thought about it like that, but still I prefer the Horde to be civilised rather than just being warmongering idiots, I mean look at Hellscream he started a war with the Night Elfs and ended up turning to demon blood because of this warmongering attitude.
I still say Thrall is much better as a warchief and Blizz better have a good reason for his absence.[/QUOTE]
Not really, the hellscreams are known for their arrogance, but take a look at Doomhammer and the other leaders in WC2, WC1, Even though they are warmongering, they are cold and calculating, in which if you under estimate them just because they look "Large and dopey" you'll find yourself dead faster then anything.
Look on how Zul'jins trolls alliance was formed in Quel'thalas with the orcs, in which they gained a powerful ally.
What I personally know and say, The path to savagery filled with honor is good for the horde in itself.
[QUOTE=Death0nWings;19102942]The forsaken were human and broke free of the Lich King's grasp. When they went back to the humans they denied them and started killing them on sight. Additionally, the humans have some kind of extreme hate towards elves (from when I played WC3, I remember). Humans are just assholes generally. :P[/QUOTE]
Well to be honest if you were part of the humans at that point, battling with an evil undead army, would you be trusting if a bunch of other undead came out of nowhere and said they were free of the Lich King and wanted to come back? It would seem like a trap to me.
Also the humans were assholes to elves(one of the things that pushed them into Outland), they are a pretty racist people in general.
[QUOTE=Bluetooth;19103384]Scourge = evil.
Forsaken = not.[/QUOTE]
No, the Forsaken are evil, they just have free will. Their alliance with the Horde is very shady, and many quests will show you that. The forsaken are out for themselves only and will often betray their allies if they will gain from it somehow.
[QUOTE=A.C.I.D;19105041]Alright perhaps I worded that wrongly.
They made the plauge under Sylvanas' orders and its intention was always to be used against every living creature.
It still remains dubious whether they were really acting of their own accord cause seems that they would love the chance to destroy Arthas, Bolvar and Saufang.[/QUOTE]
The fact that after what happened at Wrathgate, Varimathras and Putress attempted to overthrow Sylvannas and take over the UC shows that what they were doing was probably their own idea, not Sylvanas'(although it could be said when Wrathgate happened Sylvanas could have just betrayed Putress and used him as a scape goat even though she ordered the attack).
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[QUOTE=Keyblockor;19109149]Not really, the hellscreams are known for their arrogance, but take a look at Doomhammer and the other leaders in WC2, WC1, Even though they are warmongering, they are cold and calculating, in which if you under estimate them just because they look "Large and dopey" you'll find yourself dead faster then anything.
Look on how Zul'jins trolls alliance was formed in Quel'thalas with the orcs, in which they gained a powerful ally.
What I personally know and say, The path to savagery filled with honor is good for the horde in itself.[/QUOTE]
Yea but is that what they really need at this junction? Diplomacy with the Alliance could bear a lot more fruit than the path Hellscream wants to take them down.
It's used to keep tensions high and the storyline going, if everyone was like thrall and Jaina, there would be no World of warcraft at all.
[QUOTE=Keyblockor;19109477]It's used to keep tensions high and the storyline going, if everyone was like thrall and Jaina, there would be no World of warcraft at all.[/QUOTE]
I'm speaking from a lore point of a view, not from a gameplay or interesting point of view.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;19109517]I'm speaking from a lore point of a view, not from a gameplay or interesting point of view.[/QUOTE]
I agree, strictly from a lore point of view, Hellscream would be a horrible warchief. Where as at least Thrall is able to keep his head on when he meets someone from the Alliance.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxYVLZ-n9zM&feature=fvw[/media]
See both the Alliance leader and Garrosh are being stupid.
Archmage Vargoth
The titans, its really deep shit.
Sylvanas (As the banshee queen) and the Forsaken
Sylvanas was a badass high elf who didnt really like being all nice and polite, dies, becomes a banshee under Arthas' rule. Arthas goes to save nerzhul, Sylvanas with some other undead break from his hold and form the forsaken, the try to take over Lordaeron (Which was where arthas was at the moment) however the dreadlords were protecting it, made a deal with the humans to leave Lordaeron if they kill the dreadlords, instead of killing him, she makes him a slave, then makes him kill the other... humans tell them to get out now... they just kill them too... Forsaken is formed, the end
TLDR. The forsaken were just badass
[QUOTE=Spaztastik;19122324]Sylvanas (As the banshee queen) and the Forsaken
Sylvanas was a badass high elf who didnt really like being all nice and polite, dies, becomes a banshee under Arthas' rule. Arthas goes to save nerzhul, Sylvanas with some other undead break from his hold and form the forsaken, the try to take over Lordaeron (Which was where arthas was at the moment) however the dreadlords were protecting it, made a deal with the humans to leave Lordaeron if they kill the dreadlords, instead of killing him, she makes him a slave, then makes him kill the other... humans tell them to get out now... they just kill them too... Forsaken is formed, the end
TLDR. The forsaken were just badass[/QUOTE]
Yes, however the bad thing is that the dreadlord Sylvannas "enslaved" was actually working for a different master and attempted a coup against Sylvannas and the Undercity.
Sylvanas is the coolest thing in Warcraft lore by a country mile.
[QUOTE=yawmwen;19122850]Yes, however the bad thing is that the dreadlord Sylvannas "enslaved" was actually working for a different master and attempted a coup against Sylvannas and the Undercity.[/QUOTE]
not at teh start... before he was enslaved by Sylvannas but she gave him too much freedom and then his other master contacted him and then wrathgate happened
I forgot to add Sylvannas, she is one of the coolest leaders of the horde. My list of top horde leaders probably goes like:
Thrall>Sylvannas>Vol'jin
The trolls, trolls = best race!
[QUOTE=Parrrky;19136261]The trolls, trolls = best race![/QUOTE]
I don't like trolls that much. Their lore, however, is interesting.
The stuff about the Elemental Lords.
[QUOTE=Zorgoth64;19142889]The stuff about the Elemental Lords.[/QUOTE]
That's like the sort of world bosses that spawn in Azeroth? Like in Tanaris there is the huge tornado boss?
murlocs :downs:
Black dragonflight
[QUOTE=Shanto;19101476]Then why would Thrall allow it.[/QUOTE]
I've heard something about him becoming the new Guardian of Tirisfal. Can't really confirm it though...
Old gods are epic. Tentacles and loads of eyes (or one big eye) is the way forward.
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