man i havent played amumu in ages because im terrible at jungling
just went him because we had no tank or jungler, ended up going 2/2/16
if i knew how to gank better id probably play him more often
[QUOTE=mixshifter;38091918]Does spellvamp stack as long as they're not the same item/an item that builds into another? Can you have both a Gunblade and WoTA and get full spellvamp?[/QUOTE]
Wota's vamp is an aura tough, but they work (you can get revolver and wota too)
[QUOTE=Fancy Cakes;38091710]Nice going on your score. Anywho...
I like to start Katarina with boots and 3 potions, just because being able to run around is very important to her. If you're particularly ballsy or feeling confident, you could always go with an amplifying tome and one option.
I rush Hextech Revolver for the sustain (Haunting Guise is also a very strong early item on Katarina), followed by a Negatron cloak which will later be built into an Abyssal Scepter. Having the Magic Resist early is great considering you have to get up in people's face to do damage.
After that you have a few options: Hextech Gunblade (which I believe is not [I]as[/I] effective as earlier), Abyssal Scepter first if your AP enemy is scurry, Will of The Ancients. After that I go for raw power in terms of Zhonya & Deathcap. Finish with Void Staff if they're stacking MR, or get a Guardian Angel, or just more damage because fuck everyone.
[U][B]tl;dr [/B][/U]
Boots > Hextech Revolver > Sorcerer's Shoes > Negatron Cloak > Gunblade/Will of The Ancients/Abyssal > Zhonya > Deathcap > Shiggy Wiggy.
Personally, I don't bother much with Rylai's Crystal Scepter since Katarina's job is really to burst people down, get that first kill/assist, and just clean house. The health and utility is nice, but not so much necessary; you slow them down during your ultimate, sure, or you could just hit them far harder during it.[/QUOTE]
I highly recommend just skipping spellvamp altogether, it was only really good before because of her high base damage and ability to hit the entire creep wave with full damage daggers and would build into gunblade which let you get an easy full ult on someone 1v1 and the ad scaling made it more damage than a deathcap for katarina
I play mainly AP mid champs, but I want to get better at supporting/jungling. Supporting is fine so far, just buy wards and sit on your ADC's dick and heal/shield/whatever. I'm having lots of fun with it.
Anytime I jungle, however, I never know when to gank, my ganking is never successful, and I end up blowing my health pots out of panic.
I know the basics...leash blue, use Smite, etc. But everything else is confusing.
OHMAN WHY DID THEY NERF THE SHIT OUT OF EZREAL
they could have just dropped the effectiveness of his utility, but now he's just a sub-par ADC. this is terrible.
[QUOTE=l l;38091908]Someone coach me.[/QUOTE]
Give me your IGN.
[QUOTE=mixshifter;38091918]Does spellvamp stack as long as they're not the same item/an item that builds into another? Can you have both a Gunblade and WoTA and get full spellvamp?[/QUOTE]
Yes
[QUOTE=Espio;38092026]I highly recommend just skipping spellvamp altogether, it was only really good before because of her high base damage and ability to hit the entire creep wave with full damage daggers and would build into gunblade which let you get an easy full ult on someone 1v1 and the ad scaling made it more damage than a deathcap for katarina[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't ignore spellvamp if you're dealing with someone who you expect to constantly harass or try and wittle you down. The life gain is invaluable, WoTA is a good team asset, and it saves you from buying & chugging potions 24/7
[QUOTE=Zero_X54321;38092055]OHMAN WHY DID THEY NERF THE SHIT OUT OF EZREAL
they could have just dropped the effectiveness of his utility, but now he's just a sub-par ADC. this is terrible.[/QUOTE]
I'm gonna have a little chuckle if we go back to the point of Ezreal being thought of as utter shit.
[QUOTE=Zero_X54321;38092055]OHMAN WHY DID THEY NERF THE SHIT OUT OF EZREAL
they could have just dropped the effectiveness of his utility, but now he's just a sub-par ADC. this is terrible.[/QUOTE]
cue the corki-graves era
if you nerf one of the three that hard, at least nerf the other two a bit as well
[editline]18th October 2012[/editline]
but the ez nerf is nothing compared to the dfg
like holy shit
[QUOTE=Belivo;38092018]Wota's vamp is an aura tough, but they work (you can get revolver and wota too)[/QUOTE]
The person who purchases the item gets the aura effects as well.
Double WoTA + Gunblade on Morgana with Spellvamp Masteries and Runes.
Whatcha gonna do?
laugh because no damage and long cds and skillshots
[QUOTE=Fancy Cakes;38092087]I wouldn't ignore spellvamp if you're dealing with someone who you expect to constantly harass or try and wittle you down. The life gain is invaluable, WoTA is a good team asset, and it saves you from buying & chugging potions 24/7[/QUOTE]
If someone is constantly harassing you and wittling you down then it's better to just buy a resistance item, spellvamp gives you barely any hp back because all of your abilities except e are aoe and only get 33%, if you're in a bad lane then you can't walk up and q-w the creep wave so all you will ever get is the reduced damage from bouncing blade giving you a reduced amount of hp
Also health pots are about the same as a full creep wave of spellvamp, early kage's will give you the gold for those hp pots, getting damage is far more valuable on katarina than spellvamp is
Are the ward skins really temporarily? Well fuck that
[QUOTE=Color;38092075]Give me your IGN.[/QUOTE]
What's yours I'll add you.
[QUOTE=Espio;38092181]If someone is constantly harassing you and wittling you down then it's better to just buy a resistance item, spellvamp gives you barely any hp back because all of your abilities except e are aoe and only get 33%, if you're in a bad lane then you can't walk up and q-w the creep wave so all you will ever get is the reduced damage from bouncing blade giving you a reduced amount of hp
Also health pots are about the same as a full creep wave of spellvamp, early kage's will give you the gold for those hp pots, getting damage is far more valuable on katarina than spellvamp is[/QUOTE]
It's never steered me wrong, and so far I've very rarely had a poor game as Katarina, so what I'm doing works for me quite well, it would seem.
[QUOTE=Fancy Cakes;38092330]It's never steered me wrong, and so far I've very rarely had a poor game as Katarina, so what I'm doing works for me quite well, it would seem.[/QUOTE]
Well I still recommend that you try a game where you just completely skip spell vamp, I also used to use spell vamp on new Katarina but I just don't see the need any more
It just seems like one of those items people buy that you don't actually need and you can adjust your play style to completely skip the item, like Tear of the Goddess on Ezreal/Urgot/Sivir
Edit: Also I need to try buying an early Brutalizer on Ezreal, especially after seeing Aphromoo have such great success with it in IPL5
Brutalizer is such a great item. It just needs to build into not-youmou's
[QUOTE=Fancy Cakes;38092638]Brutalizer is such a great item. It just needs to build into not-youmou's[/QUOTE]
What if
We got an item
That was out of Brutalizer and Last whisper
With like, -70 armor
For the lulz
I think to make the item builds more interesting we need items with a couple drawbacks. Like let's say we have an AD Carry item that increased armor pen at the cost of AD, and a support item that would increase MS by 10% but reduce health by 5%, or an AP item with a good chunk of AP that increases cooldowns. Things like that, while obviously would need to be really fucking balanced, would give more versatile builds so that each carry and support doesn't build more or less the same items.
wow i called it i knew eve was gonna get nerfed hard into to pre-rework status
and thus it has come full circle
fuck ezreal im glad that broken champion is going to get crushed
some people
what kind of hard drive do you have to take literally 7 minutes to load SR
It's not the HDD, it could be the video card getting shit loaded into vram. I'm sure they just have a TNT 2.
[QUOTE=DarkZero135;38093237]wow i called it i knew eve was gonna get nerfed hard into to pre-rework status
and thus it has come full circle[/QUOTE]
But she isn't getting nerfed that hard, the base damage on her ult is still massive and she will still kill you with ult-dfg-ignite
However she won't be as effective later on and her ult cd is going to be higher because the cdr got taken from dfg (the damage however is better past 500ap which isn't actually that high late game)
[QUOTE=Flip pl;38093377]fuck ezreal im glad that broken champion is going to get crushed[/QUOTE]
implying im going to stop playing ezreal because of this :~)
its a hard nerf but he will still be top-tier until they do something to his e, which riot probably wont
ugh
that feel when an entire game is thrown because your jungler is retarded, your top goes AFK at 30 mins and you can't carry because you're support
[IMG]http://puu.sh/1gfrg[/IMG]
Is this what I think it is?
When was this added?
How do you see all the skins you own?
There is no direct way to see them other than going into skins and checking 'champions owned'' and count the ones who are missing.
Also 2 vayne penta today.
It was good day.
[editline]19th October 2012[/editline]
what now, I didn't get more refunds.
Dang it RIOT, I tell you what.
[QUOTE=l l;38094022][IMG]http://puu.sh/1gfrg[/IMG]
Is this what I think it is?
When was this added?
How do you see all the skins you own?[/QUOTE]
Was added a few patches back. You get 3 refunds on your account with no way to get any more. I think it has to be within either 60 or 90 days of a purchase to be refunded, likely 60.
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