Shens good if you get items. I personally rush Ionic spark, then sometimes aegis or some other tanky item.
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I knew I should've taken the 15 minute dodge penalty.
I mean obviously I didn't help any, I lost my lane due to me being bad and being a first time Elise, but it didn't help that Yi tower dove Akali constantly and put her way ahead.
And then yeah, you can see what else happened. It was Xerath/Ryze bot.
I should've just taken the fucking penalty.
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Relaxation;38423165]Shens good if you get items. I personally rush Ionic spark[/QUOTE]
No, that's bad. Stop that. Only get Ionic Spark if you're way ahead and already have a Wits End.
I like the health and minion clear better than the MR on wits end.
Yes but there's no reason to get an Ionic Spark if you don't have the 40% AS bonus magic damage from Wits End already. Just because you "like it" doesn't make it good.
I just said i like he extra health and minion clear. Ionic spark even helps kill champions.
Ionic sparks helps his pushing much more than wits end, and as a shen you need to push unless you want the enemy top laner to take tower as soon as you ult
Yep. Also sometimes I won't even buy wits end, I don't need to focus on getting damage, I like to get tanky, split push, then ulti to team if there's a fight somewhere. A lot of times I'll just get super tanky, like warmogs, ageis, sunfire cape, atmas, etc... And if theres strong AP then I'd rather take the gold from wits end and put it towards FoN or something.
Attack Speed Cho, so far:
5/1/6
4/8/7 (ouch!)
10/5/11
I don't think he's as good as a more traditional AP Tank Cho'Gath, but he [I]does[/I] kick a lot more ass in 1v1 situations, and his overall damage output is much higher. Though he dies pretty quickly if focused.
What items would maximize his DPS?
Right now I go Phantom Dancer, Wit's End, Malady, a Guinsoo's Rageblade, and a tank item (usually frozen heart) and boots. I feel like I could be doing better, though. He does eat up Gangplank, though! He gave me trouble as AP Cho. I wonder if AS would better against Irelia, too? HmmMMMmmm.
[QUOTE=Relaxation;38423303]Yep. Also sometimes I won't even buy wits end, I don't need to focus on getting damage, I like to get tanky, split push, then ulti to team if there's a fight somewhere. A lot of times I'll just get super tanky, like warmogs, ageis, sunfire cape, atmas, etc... And if theres strong AP then I'd rather take the gold from wits end and put it towards FoN or something.[/QUOTE]
Wits is still pretty good on shen, having very high AS gives shen surprisingly good burst with his W up since you proc the passive damage every 2 seconds which gives shen more better burst then you'd think, I sometimes take it over ionic if I decide to rush sunfire and I feel like I'll benefit more from the AP resistance but I'd say 8 or 9/10 times I take ionic first.
Wits end, Malady, and Madreds should be all you need for attack speed. Get those + GA + Frozen heart/FoN or another offensive item + boots and you take damage like a boss and dish out damage like a boss
@ BDA
If you want to practice lane matchups as AS cho sometime hit me up, i've been experimenting with it too
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;38423382]Attack Speed Cho, so far:
5/1/6
4/8/7 (ouch!)
10/5/11
I don't think he's as good as a more traditional AP Tank Cho'Gath, but he [I]does[/I] kick a lot more ass in 1v1 situations, and his overall damage output is much higher. Though he dies pretty quickly if focused.
What items would maximize his DPS?
Right now I go Phantom Dancer, Wit's End, Malady, a Guinsoo's Rageblade, and a tank item (usually frozen heart) and boots. I feel like I could be doing better, though. He does eat up Gangplank, though! He gave me trouble as AP Cho. I wonder if AS would better against Irelia, too? HmmMMMmmm.[/QUOTE]
Stick to ap tank IMO. Me and my friend were discussing this today, ap cho is SO good. Rupture, Silence, then Feast and your dead, 4k hp just like that.
[QUOTE=Big Ben;38423227]Yes but there's no reason to get an Ionic Spark if you don't have the 40% AS bonus magic damage from Wits End already. Just because you "like it" doesn't make it good.[/QUOTE]
youre bad stop it
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;38423788]youre bad stop it[/QUOTE]
What I like most about his comment is that he deluded himself into believing my reasoning was simply because I "like it", when I gave reasoning as to why I get it first.
Check out this gem
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/CuJkR.jpg[/IMG]
Eve would just stealth and stand still in minion waves. Oh, my friend and I also called jungle and mid, both of which were picked before we did, so we did duo bot.
Their Fizz ragequit after we murdered him twice in a row too.
And this reiterates why I never play ranked.
RIP BIG SPARKS Shen S3
No more crazy split pushing
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Rageblade Elise y/n?
NOOOOOOO
I WENT FROM 1200 TO 1370 YESTERDAY I WAS GONNA GET GOLD TODAY
[QUOTE=Jund;38423907]
[editline]12th November 2012[/editline]
Rageblade Elise y/n?[/QUOTE]
nope
o
p
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[QUOTE=Megadick;38424246]NOOOOOOO
I WENT FROM 1200 TO 1370 YESTERDAY I WAS GONNA GET GOLD TODAY[/QUOTE]
better hurry
[quote][img]http://riot-web-static.s3.amazonaws.com/images/news/November_2012/2012_11_12_End_of_S2_Patch_Notes/end_of_s2_patch_post.jpg[/img]
Season 2 has officially ended!
Eligible summoners will receive loading screen borders, profile banner trims, forum badges, and the Victorious Janna skin immediately
Summoner Icons will be distributed over the next week
Elo ratings have been compressed towards 1200 and system confidence in ratings has been reset.
Placement matches must be completed before Elo will be visible again.
Ranked stats have been cleared and archived under the "Season 2" option in the dropdown.
Brand
Pyroclasm can no longer bounce more than 5 times.
Elise
Neurotoxin Ability Power ratio increased to 3% per 100 Ability Power from 2%
Venomous Bite Ability Power ratio increased to 3% per 100 Ability Power from 2%
Cocoon
Missile speed increased to 1450 from 1300
Now reveals the target if it hits
Spider Form bonus magic damage per attack Ability Power ratio increased to 0.3 from 0.2
Kassadin
Nether Blade
Ability Power ratio increased to 0.3 from 0.15
Bonus damage no longer hits inhibitors or the Nexus
Katarina
Bouncing Blade initial damage reduced at later ranks to 60/90/120/150/180 from 60/95/130/165/200
Sinister Steel damage reduced at later ranks to 40/75/110/145/180 from 40/80/120/160/200
LeBlanc
Distortion Mana Cost reduced at later ranks to 80/85/90/95/100 from 80/90/100/110/120
Lux
Final Spark visual effects no longer appear at the wrong angle if aimed beyond the edge of the map
Renekton
Slice and Dice no longer reduces Dragon's Armor
Soraka
Infuse tooltip now states the correct Ability Power ratio at 0.6
Twisted Fate
Pick a Card tooltip now describes the correct behavior in regards to Blue card's Mana restoration
Twitch
Deadly Venom now has a new particle for maximum stacks
Ambush tooltip now describes the correct behavior in regards to delay before entering invisibility
Veigar
Equilibrium Mana Regeneration increased to 1% from 0.75% per 1% Mana missing
Volibear
Majestic Roar now fears minions and monsters for 3 seconds instead of 2
Xin Zhao
Crescent Sweep now properly procs Spell Vamp and other effects (e.g. Rylai's slow)
Yorick
Omen of War now works properly with Life Steal
Ziggs
Short Fuse now deals 150% damage to structures
Zilean
Time Bomb now breaks Recall immediately when cast on an enemy champion.
Items
Blackfire Torch
New Recipe: Kage's Lucky Pick + Haunting Guise
Total Gold Cost: 2950 (combine cost: 700)
+70 Ability Power
+250 Health
Unique Passive: +15% Cooldown Reduction
Unique Passive: +20 Magic Penetration
Unique Passive: Your spells burn for an additional 5% of the target champion's maximum Health in magic damage over 3 seconds. Each second burned consumes a charge. One charge is generated each second.
Now available on Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar.
Hextech Sweeper
New Recipe: Amplifying Tome + Amplifying Tome + Kindlegem
Total Gold Cost: 1920 (combine cost: 200)
+50 Ability Power
+300 Health
Unique Passive: +10% Cooldown Reduction
Unique Passive: +10% Movement Speed
Unique Active: A stealth-detecting mist grants vision in the target area for 10 seconds (1 minute cooldown).
Lord Van Damm's Pillager
Reduced health by 50
Reduced armor penetration by 5
Wooglet's Witchcap
New Recipe: Needlessly Large Rod + Chain Mail
Total Gold Cost: 3500 (combine cost: 1200)
+100 Ability Power
+50 Armor
Unique Passive: Increases Ability Power by 25%
Unique Active: Places your champion into Stasis for 2.5 seconds, rendering you invulnerable and untargetable but unable to take any action (90 second cooldown)
Now available on Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar
Removed Zhonya's Hourglass from Twisted Treeline and Crystal Scar
Removed Rabadon's Deathcap from Crystal Scar
General
Ignite is now only castable on enemy champions
Champion passives will now have their cooldowns represented on their passive icon
Co-op vs. AI
Twisted Treeline bots should now favor defending their base over taking altars.
Twisted Treeline bots no longer get stuck at the summoning platform when an inhibitor is under attack.
Custom game Summoner's Rift bots now use the same push logic as beginner Co-op vs. AI bots, which should address several issues of bots getting stuck on the map
Added a pathing workaround to prevent Summoner's Rift bots from getting trapped in certain areas of the map (e.g. Baron pit)
Battle Training bots should no longer get stuck during the tutorial
Twisted Treeline
Reduced Vilemaw's starting damage, increased his starting health, and reduced his health scaling
Slightly tweaked walkable space in several areas to allow Flashing over walls
Brush beside altars removed
Altars now unlock at 3:00 minutes instead of 2:00
Altars now grant a 3 gold bonus per kill, down from 4
Minion base gold rewards increased by 1 to compensate
Jungle monster gold and health values rebalanced
Removed Thornmail from the purchasable item list
Crystal Scar
Reduced passive mana regeneration
Increased mana gained from Health Relics
Changed windmill rotation speed so gears no longer clip
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Ha, Katarina nerfs.
I like those TT changes, hopefully it isn't going to be "whoever wins the jungle teamfight first!!"
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img] for Lulu
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/funny2.png[/img] for Malz
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/img] for Trundle
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/zing.png[/img] for Mao
I can't decide who to buy next.
Ahhh... Volibear and Ziggs buff.
That feels so nice, even if they're extremely minor. Glad Kat got nerfed too.
I love ad casters
Well time for RoA Rylais Black fire torch Singed, good luck everyone else!
[editline]13th November 2012[/editline]
Wait its only new in dominion, shit.
[QUOTE=zryii;38424788][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img] for Lulu
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/funny2.png[/img] for Malz
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/img] for Trundle
[img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/zing.png[/img] for Mao
I can't decide who to buy next.[/QUOTE]
Use a randomizer.
I want my damn summoner icons :(
Is it just me, or does Support Nautilus rock? I was going to get Maokai, but Nautilus is begging. "BUY MEEE!"
Wouldn't that be a waste of Nautilus? I haven't tried it myself but seems that way.
it's a really good kill lane
that's about it really
[QUOTE=Silversoda;38425269]Is it just me, or does Support Nautilus rock? I was going to get Maokai, but Nautilus is begging. "BUY MEEE!"[/QUOTE]
just you
Naut is a jungle and jungle only.
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