see, the thing that annoys me about riven is that you have to do all this fancy ass shit with her to do damage, and it takes time, while darius can just spin his axe once and do basically the same amount of damage
So riven wins in a fight? Also, I liked darius but at pro level he usually gets owned due to kiting. Think I might use my last refund on jayce. :/
[QUOTE=Relaxation;38099275]So riven wins in a fight? Also, I liked darius but at pro level he usually gets owned due to kiting. Think I might use my last refund on jayce. :/[/QUOTE]
Singed: Highly mobile AP tank with lots of team utility
Riven: Highly mobile AD bruiser with lots of damage potential
In a 1v1 between these champs, I'd say Singed would come out on top most of the time, if only because he could outlast Riven, and escape from the engagement at will if things weren't going his way.
Singed easily beats Riven unless you get caught in her combo and she melts you early game.
Fuck I don't know. Everyone good tells me Jayce is amazing, but to learn someone else cause basically he has no future. Includes bans and nerfs. Hmm. Decisions.
get lee sin
he's basically better than everyone in the world
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more mobile than riven, less time wasted looking cool to do damage, roundhouse kick for more damage than anyone, win lane against all
or xin zhao, but you have to learn how to not suicide with him
Did any of you guys get riven just for the S2 skin?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/USXsJ.jpg?1[/img]
i want this so badly for jungle olaf
[QUOTE=Relaxation;38099399]Fuck I don't know. Everyone good tells me Jayce is amazing, but to learn someone else cause basically he has no future. Includes bans and nerfs. Hmm. Decisions.[/QUOTE]
If you're still deciding, decide on Cho'Gath.
He is so. Much. Fun.
Just went mid with him to counter Orianna. It's stupid how completely he can shut her out. He doesn't even have to try to dodge her skillshots--start with a magic resist item and the basic rune page, and she can't even dent your health bar. You can completely ignore her until level 6, then enjoy a free snack every time your ult is up.
Final score for Cho'Man:
10/0/6
They kept trying to gank me, and every time they did I'd eat their jungler, haha.
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;38099830][img]http://i.imgur.com/USXsJ.jpg?1[/img]
i want this so badly for jungle olaf[/QUOTE]
Hng. Brutalizer will finally be useful with real end-game build items.
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;38099830][img]http://i.imgur.com/USXsJ.jpg?1[/img]
i want this so badly for jungle olaf[/QUOTE]
That is an awesome item.
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The spell vamp seems a little weird, though.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;38099893]That is an awesome item.
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The spell vamp seems a little weird, though.[/QUOTE]
spell vamp works on almost every single spell in the game that deals damage
for example, olaf's w grants him lifesteal and spell vamp, the spell vamp works on both his Q and E
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;38099906]spell vamp works on almost every single spell in the game that deals damage
for example, olaf's w grants him lifesteal and spell vamp, the spell vamp works on both his Q and E[/QUOTE]
Ah, so it works off abilities that scale from AD, too? Guess that is pretty sweet, then! Looks like a great item for almost any bruiser.
Pity it's only on TT. We need an ad caster item pretty badly.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;38099917]Ah, so it works off abilities that scale from AD, too? Guess that is pretty sweet, then! Looks like a great item for almost any bruiser.[/QUOTE]
afaik it works with any spell that doesn't apply on-hit effects, like gangplank's Q, that works with lifesteal instead
[QUOTE=Chubbs;38099935]Pity it's only on TT. We need an ad caster item pretty badly.[/QUOTE]
Jesus fuck WHY.
That would be perfect for so many Champions. Hell, I'd build that on Skarner.
Is Hecarim viable in lane? I love his concept and kit, but don't really care for jungling.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;38099999]Is Hecarim viable in lane? I love his concept and kit, but don't really care for jungling.[/QUOTE]
i'd say he's somewhat viable toplane if you get a lot of help from your jungler
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;38100006]i'd say he's somewhat viable toplane if you get a lot of help from your jungler[/QUOTE]
Even then, if you're against another competent jungler and top lane, you're gonna get shit on.
His kit and concept are built around disruption and engaging, which is what makes him such a strong jungler.
BDA start jungling pls
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Also I miss playing League with you. We used to play all the time </3
hecarim toplane is weird since he can't really burst, but in a long 1v1 fight if he can get full stacks on Q he's pretty good
Uhh... hmm...
Had a game where the total score were 5/20. Our Darius and Support Morgana both had 7 deaths and no kills.
Then the enemy threw the game really hard and SOMEHOW we won.
League of Throws.
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38100277]hecarim toplane is weird since he can't really burst, but in a long 1v1 fight if he can get full stacks on Q he's pretty good[/QUOTE]
The problem with this is the awkward time when that's viable. If it's early game, burst is the only thing that matters. If he's tanky enough to survive burst and prolong a 1v1 fight, it's probably far enough into the game that the laning phase is over.
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[QUOTE=Dave_Parker;38100292]Singed > All[/QUOTE]
This is a given.
also i really don't like hecarim's health/level gain
i wish they bumped it up to garen levels or something, it just doesn't seem fitting that a massive horse initiator sucks in terms of hp.
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;38099940]afaik it works with any spell that doesn't apply on-hit effects, like gangplank's Q, that works with lifesteal instead[/QUOTE]
spellvamp works with kayle's ranged attack and chogath's spikes
[QUOTE=Flip pl;38100665]spellvamp works with kayle's ranged attack and chogath's spikes[/QUOTE]
I assume it's just the skill itself's damage, and not all damage dealt when her E is active, right?
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[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38100662]also i really don't like hecarim's health/level gain
i wish they bumped it up to garen levels or something, it just doesn't seem fitting that a massive horse initiator sucks in terms of hp.[/QUOTE]
The entire problem I have with Hecarim's kit is that it encourages initiation and disruption without his stats or passive helping that. So you have to build him full tank with no real damage to be what he [I]has[/I] to be.
[QUOTE=Flip pl;38100665]spellvamp works with kayle's ranged attack and chogath's spikes[/QUOTE]
cho's e delas magic damage which works with spellvamp, kayle's e deals bonus magic damage which works with spellvamp
don't see what you mean
[quote]afaik it works with any spell that doesn't apply on-hit effects[/quote]
[QUOTE=Flip pl;38100767]quote[/QUOTE]
i'm pretty sure the vorpal spikes themselves doesn't apply on hit effects
oh i see what nintendo meant
misunderstanding
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