only get a bloodthirster if you're killing more than you're dying
getting a bloodthirster after losing your lane 0/5 isn't very smart, IE on the other hand is a great choice even if you're losing
ap nunu top is so fucking hilarious, I mean you literally stack ap
LOW ON HEALTH?
consume.
[QUOTE=Laferio;38505505]ap nunu top is so fucking hilarious, I mean you literally stack ap
LOW ON HEALTH?
consume.[/QUOTE]
I imagine Nunu top would work against Yorick. Consuming his E makes him lose his sustain and in a 1v1 fight it doesn't matter if you're away from minions, you'll be literally given free health from him
Nasus does surprisingly well against yorick, given that yorick is a hell lane and nasus sucks at laning, as he can farm even more Q stacks because yorick sends free Q stacks at him.
Basically the only things that counter Yorick are things that can benefit from killing his minions.
[QUOTE=NotAName;38505595]Nasus does surprisingly well against yorick, given that yorick is a hell lane and nasus sucks at laning, as he can farm even more Q stacks because yorick sends free Q stacks at him.[/QUOTE]
Haha, never thought of that but it makes a lot of sense. I hope I get the opportunity to try that one day.
[QUOTE=polarbear.;38504381]so full AD reds and quints are current meta for ad carrys? I'm rocking AD quints and arp reds, but I keep getting my ass handed to me in lane by people with AD runepages[/QUOTE]
Most people go full AD because its easier to last hit with.
You can run armor pen on champions with a lot of AD scaling spells tho, like graves.
[QUOTE=NotAName;38505595]Nasus does surprisingly well against yorick, given that yorick is a hell lane and nasus sucks at laning, as he can farm even more Q stacks because yorick sends free Q stacks at him.[/QUOTE]
no. He really doesn't. The damage you will take will push you out of lane and you won't be able to get any gold even if you last hit his minions under tower you got no income
whenever I get a s2 plat player on my team at 1500 elo they feed atrociously
i dont get it
then, despite winning my lane and having the best stats on the team, they proceed to say in all chat 'wow silver mid gg'
sigh
Scary junglers for me are hecarim and shyvana, because they can chase you down so fast not even funny.
me and my friends all build all our adcs the same way:
boots x3 hp pots
recall, get either bf sword + greaves or 2 dorans + vamp scepter
zeal(my friends did some math and found out that bf sword to zeal gives more dps than ie if you have greaves)
ie
pd/bt
pd/bt(whicheverone you didnt get)
ga
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[QUOTE=Feralicous;38505749]whenever I get a s2 plat player on my team at 1500 elo they feed atrociously
i dont get it
then, despite winning my lane and having the best stats on the team, they proceed to say in all chat 'wow silver mid gg'
sigh[/QUOTE]
borders are stupid yeah
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/13dmkd/my_problem_with_the_ranked_borders/[/url]
[QUOTE=Megadick;38505737]no. He really doesn't. The damage you will take will push you out of lane and you won't be able to get any gold even if you last hit his minions under tower you got no income[/QUOTE]
If you're dumb enough to let Yorick harass you, sure. Yorick is very easy to deny harass from. If he's silly enough to let your lane get pushed so you can free farm your Q under your tower, where you're most safe, and where you can make good use of your passive to get rid of any harass you do take from him, he might not lose the laning phase but he's going to pay hard for it later.
The thing with Nasus is that, he can rush pure defensive items and still be perfectly capable of killing the enemy laner. Which is why you want your lane to be pushed when facing him, so it allows your jungler an opening to shut him down. This applies against Yorick as well, except it works even better against Yorick since he has no real escapes while Nasus has his totally OP slow.
tl;dr nasus can kick yorick's ass if played right
i see a lot of people getting zeal and 2 dorans too
So for ashe, should I always just get an IE first?
I hate getting BT first because I'm OCD and want it fully charged, and I end up getting cs at the bottom of the map instead of being in the big team fight in mid .. woops
IE goes good with her shitty passive, so yes, I'd get IE on her long before BT
[QUOTE=mixshifter;38505920]If you're dumb enough to let Yorick harass you, sure. Yorick is very easy to deny harass from. If he's silly enough to let your lane get pushed so you can free farm your Q under your tower, where you're most safe, and where you can make good use of your passive to get rid of any harass you do take from him, he might not lose the laning phase but he's going to pay hard for it later.
The thing with Nasus is that, he can rush pure defensive items and still be perfectly capable of killing the enemy laner. Which is why you want your lane to be pushed when facing him, so it allows your jungler an opening to shut him down. This applies against Yorick as well, except it works even better against Yorick since he has no real escapes while Nasus has his totally OP slow.
tl;dr nasus can kick yorick's ass if played right[/QUOTE]
He can harass you while you are farming under tower more than your passive heals. It's a very bad lane for nasus, trust me. I play alot of nasus, and he's pretty much the only one who actually denied me farm.
Hell I crushed a riven in lane the game before I got crushed by a yorick.
And nasus's escape will do fuck all against a gank of two people who both do damage. Against yorick you're better off maxing E to get last hits when they are out of your safe zone
I mean sure you WILL have ALOT of Q stacks but you will be very starved for gold. You are grossly overestimating the lifesteal from nasus's passive.
the best matchup for yorick is cho imo, his ghouls are free mana and health potions
[img]http://shrani.si/f/1V/8T/mNvpjrA/heck-yeah.png[/img]
+186 Elo in one day, 30 away from gold. A rather good day today I'd say.
But god damn that taric game, i sucked so hard.
[QUOTE=Megadick;38506341]He can harass you while you are farming under tower more than your passive heals. It's a very bad lane for nasus, trust me. I play alot of nasus, and he's pretty much the only one who actually denied me farm.
Hell I crushed a riven in lane the game before I got crushed by a yorick.
And nasus's escape will do fuck all against a gank of two people who both do damage. Against yorick you're better off maxing E to get last hits when they are out of your safe zone
I mean sure you WILL have ALOT of Q stacks but you will be very starved for gold. You are grossly overestimating the lifesteal from nasus's passive.[/QUOTE]
As a regular nasus player I've never had trouble against yorick, I even pick nasus if I'm top and I see the enemy team has yorick cause I know I can get stacked quite a lot.
The lane isn't really that hard, if you have correct masteries and runes then yoricks ghouls does little damage while you just leech off of minions with Q.
[QUOTE=OldFusion;38505699]Most people go full AD because its easier to last hit with.
You can run armor pen on champions with a lot of AD scaling spells tho, like graves.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, last hitting is the only problem with my rune setup. I'll miss a few until I get a dorans or some other AD item.
[QUOTE=Nintendo-Guy;38499712]i prefer jungling with him
i use AD red, armor yellow, mr/level blue and MS quints
boots 3 pots
HoG and dorans asap
phage then mercs
aegis unless your support is building it
randuins/maw, whatever you think you'll need first
frozen mallet
usually how i do it
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you don't even need to build much damage on him, i usually only have around 140-150 ad until i get my hexdrinker/maw[/QUOTE]
I don't know about top but holy shit this build is godlike at jungling :v:
First attempt:
[img]http://puu.sh/1rMZ2[/img]
Will eating Yorick's ghosts as Cho'gath get you the stacks? I'd assume so, it's kinda funny to imagine.
[QUOTE=Novangel;38506450]I don't know about top but holy shit this build is godlike at jungling :v:[/QUOTE]
This post made me buy Darius
P.S. I really like your avatar
[QUOTE=Protocol7;38506447]Yeah, last hitting is the only problem with my rune setup. I'll miss a few until I get a dorans or some other AD item.[/QUOTE]
With the upcoming changes are "nerfs" to boots, you'll probably see dorans start become a viable alternative in sustain lanes, meaning you could probably get away with running penetration quints and marks, which will be far better for lategame.
Getting matched up against 2x Diamonds & 3x Platinum ELO borders isn't exactly fun as a s2 Silver border ;_;
How would you build Varus with all these new items, now?
6 warmogs
find it hard to test shit on pbe when every game ive done involves a troll or afker
[QUOTE=Number-41;38501238]Can anyone recommend me a good jungler? I tried Riven, Lee Sin (difficult and I don't find him so fun), Jax (was fun, viable? )[/QUOTE]
Maokai.
I've tried numerous junglers and tank + gp5 imo is the best way to go.
Maokai has good ganks, good team fight, decent jungle and high sustain.
I don't like bruiser junglers anymore because if you can't snowball then you aren't worth much late game (e.g Lee Sin needs to snowball to be good otherwise he gets outscaled)
[QUOTE=Ogris;38506578]With the upcoming changes are "nerfs" to boots, you'll probably see dorans start become a viable alternative in sustain lanes, meaning you could probably get away with running penetration quints and marks, which will be far better for lategame.[/QUOTE]
I run pen marks anyway, which do really help with lategame
[img]http://puu.sh/1rNcj[/img]
Close game.
Wait I wasn't playing bots?
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