[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38205895]dont rush the new item in TT
40 AD isn't all that much, you'd be better off getting a bunch of midgame items and then upgrading to pillager later on[/QUOTE]
You aint getting the item for 40ad, in fact I didn't even realise it had that much ad
you get it for cdr, armour pen, and spellvamp
you play someone like olaf and just rush it and destroy everyone then just keep buying brutalizers so you can keep dealing out true damage
Ebonmaw's dps is rediculous
I fought him with my team as Fiora with BotRK and Sanguine Blade at level 18 and lost 60% of my hp
it's a giant fucking spider, i would hope it does damage. hell the shit it does looks more painful than baron head slap
Amumu is strong... He can build pretty much only armour, HP and magic resistance, then get a Rylais crystal scepter and an abyssal scepter, and instakill entire teams by bandage tossing their AD carry and using his ultimate.
olaf is better with blade of ruined king imo
the 350 hp isn't too big of a boost, and the spellvamp is way less awesome than the ridiculous amounts of lifesteal from that item and the active.
the cdr is nice, but i would keep the brutalizer as-is and convert hog into randuin's
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38206715]olaf is better with blade of ruined king imo
the 350 hp isn't too big of a boost, and the spellvamp is way less awesome than the ridiculous amounts of lifesteal from that item and the active.
the cdr is nice, but i would keep the brutalizer as-is and convert hog into randuin's[/QUOTE]
Spellvamp is always nice on Olaf, you use his spells a whole lot, and it helps just as much to heal from them as well as healing from Lifesteal.
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but you won't see anyone buying a WotA on him anytime soon.
My recent attempts with Elise jungle
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[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38206715]olaf is better with blade of ruined king imo
the 350 hp isn't too big of a boost, and the spellvamp is way less awesome than the ridiculous amounts of lifesteal from that item and the active.
the cdr is nice, but i would keep the brutalizer as-is and convert hog into randuin's[/QUOTE]
you dont need any of that stuff, just cdr and armour pen
brutalizer gives you both cdr and armour pen so why not just get 3 i mean really now its simple math 1 x brutalizer = good, 3 x brutalizer = good[SUP]3[/SUP]
also the spellvamp is great wtf, with your built in spellvamp you get massive chunks of hp with your axe, i would consider getting athenes once fed just to throw more axes
keep in mind im not trying to make some amazing item build im just trying to get 3 brutalizers and spam axe
or you can get cdr boots and shurelia's/frozen heart and one brutalizer and not be squishy as hell
also olaf's axe is aoe, so spellvamp effect has changed to 33% of its original, while autoattacks proc full lifesteal and are used more often, so it's more healing overall
getting three brutalizers in order to get max cdr and pen makes you way too squishy to do anything, it's better to get cdr from tank items and armor pen from last whisper
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10.3% (with w) spellvamp from a 400-500 damage ability isn't nearly as good as 31%+2% enemy max hp lifesteal from 250-300 AD, even if you throw axes as much as you autoattack (not realistic either since your attack speed steroid is so good)
[editline]27th October 2012[/editline]
cdr/tank olaf with last whisper is the best way to spam axes and deal damage from axes
[QUOTE=Jund;38206632]Ebonmaw's dps is rediculous
I fought him with my team as Fiora with BotRK and Sanguine Blade at level 18 and lost 60% of my hp[/QUOTE]
Heres a tip, he has short range (its about 510), he can't hit players with his smash attacks outside of that range, so ranged carries can solo him with a little bit of life steal and only take small hits from his ranged attacks.
[QUOTE=Espio;38206870]you dont need any of that stuff, just cdr and armour pen
brutalizer gives you both cdr and armour pen so why not just get 3 i mean really now its simple math 1 x brutalizer = good, 3 x brutalizer = good[SUP]3[/SUP]
also the spellvamp is great wtf, with your built in spellvamp you get massive chunks of hp with your axe, i would consider getting athenes once fed just to throw more axes
keep in mind im not trying to make some amazing item build im just trying to get 3 brutalizers and spam axe[/QUOTE]
Brutalizer's CDR and armor pen are unique effects. If you buy 3 brutalizers you are an idiot because the only thing you will get from the second 2 is 2x25 AD.
I usually build for CDR / HP on Olaf, so I start with lucidity boots (+15% cdr), then Zeke's herald (15% cdr) as an all round good early game item, then a warmogs for survivability and a brutalizer (15% cdr)
This gives you 35% cdr, putting your E's cooldown to below 3 seconds at level 5.
[QUOTE=Pat.Lithium;38207079]Heres a tip, he has short range (its about 510), he can't hit players with his smash attacks outside of that range, so ranged carries can solo him with a little bit of life steal and only take small hits from his ranged attacks.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know that
Doesn't help with melee champs or against his pull
vilemaw's armor/mr shred is ridiculous
i got like 50 stacks on me one time and i just hauled ass outta there
vilemaw is stupidly easy to kill cause he only have like 30 mr and armor
vilemaw = master yi
[QUOTE=Jallen;38207258]Brutalizer's CDR and armor pen are unique effects. If you buy 3 brutalizers you are an idiot because the only thing you will get from the second 2 is 2x25 AD.
I usually build for CDR / HP on Olaf, so I start with lucidity boots (+15% cdr), then Zeke's herald (15% cdr) as an all round good early game item, then a warmogs for survivability and a brutalizer (15% cdr)
This gives you 35% cdr, putting your E's cooldown to below 3 seconds at level 5.[/QUOTE]
You can stack brutalizer with any item it builds into, on summoner's rift you can stack brutalizer and ghostblade, on tt there's a new item that brutalizer builds into which allows you to have 3 brutalizers, [I]if you didn't realise this you are an idiot![/I]
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All in a days work.
wow
So we were losing, the surrender vote comes up and while the votes were counting we have a team fight and we ace them with two people remaining and my team still ends up surrendering
low elo how does it work
[editline]28th October 2012[/editline]
oh cool im going to be on stream:
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Oh he's called Vilemaw now?
He's not as tanky as Baron but he has like 3x his dps
I doubt the DPS is as high as you think, because you are probably attempting it earlier into the game meaning less levels and items. I think it's just because of the pacing of TT that it feels like the DPS is a lot higher, but I'd say its only 1.5 times as much.
Lol the spider has like 7k health, for comparison a 40 minute blue buff has 5k health.
I did it with jax at level 16 in about 5 seconds, and i did it with 3 people at level 12 in about 3-4 seconds.
You can't buy wards and the thing instantly dies, its just a huge pain in the dick.
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38197192]
I mean, I've always thought that Fiora laning was really fucking good, but past that you actually start to get really weak.[/QUOTE]
well she IS a duelist. She's not the kind of person that can take on 3 people at once like olaf or malphite.
But I'm actually starting to think that a tiamat is somewhat mandatory on her. It may be gimmicky but the damage it gives your ult is really incredible, plus you can clear a wave faster than AP yi
Frozen Mallet Taric tank is fun.
Fiora actually isn't that good of a duelist, lol. She gets hard countered by a few common champions like Jax, Olaf and Malphite (Udyr too but he's not played top that often anymore)
I still have my notes on Fiora from when I used to play her a fair bit.
She goes fifty fifty against Lee Sin, Riven (just gotta look out for her stuns otherwise gg) and Nidalee. Udyr has too much sustain and Singed gets impossible to fight if he gets his Catalyst and goes into afk farm mode. The only easy lane is Gangplank because her Riposte blocks Parrrley.
Besides the general problems of melee ADCs in LoL, Fiora's passive sucks and she has no escape. At least Master Yi can Highlander away and Tryndamere can Spinning Slash.
Also, 1 win and 6 losses today. Today the triple digit elo idiots come out to play.
full win match history in TT
:3
only lost 1 game since the new one came out, i fucking love it (i've being duo/trio queuing)
i rotate 4 champions basically: xin, olaf, singed, darius
i might consider adding jax or skarner to that rotation soon, but goddamn, teamwork is so much more important than kills, and laning is much more exciting with the lack of wards and how far back the turrets are
League needs an in-game skin/model viewer already.
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Maybe even a "champion preview" feature, that lets you play any champion (including ones you haven't unlocked) in a singleplayer-only bot-match, with no IP rewards--just to give you an opportunity to try out the kit before buying. Free-weeks are great for seeing how a champion stacks up against other players, but if all you want to do is get a feel for a champion's general ability usage and playstyle, it sucks having to wait around for him to pop up on a free-week.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;38208726]League needs an in-game skin/model viewer already.
[editline]27th October 2012[/editline]
Maybe even a "champion preview" feature, that lets you play any champion (including ones you haven't unlocked) in a singleplayer-only bot-match, with no IP rewards--just to give you an opportunity to try out the kit before buying. Free-weeks are great for seeing how a champion stacks up against other players, but if all you want to do is get a feel for a champion's general ability usage and playstyle, it sucks having to wait around for him to pop up on a free-week.[/QUOTE]
a champion preview where you're walking around in say, the proving grounds, or even a sealed off version of the spawn area of one of the sides of the proving ground, giving you the chance to test out your skills like the tutorial, would be great.
I finally won my first match in forever, in an incredibly boring bop where tryndamere wrecked GP and 1v5 for the rest of the match. At least I got flashbacks to 2009 when I first played going up against a kayle + ashe bot which ended up being absolutely wrecked by my graves + taric lane.
Also damn I forgot how bad the graves nerfs actually were until I start getting the AS items building graves just feels horrible once the dash steroid wears off.
The nerf killed graves early for me, I struggle to get used to the new attack speed since I orb walk manually and it just feels clunky
[QUOTE=Feralicous;38209682]The nerf killed graves early for me, I struggle to get used to the new attack speed since I orb walk manually and it just feels clunky[/QUOTE]
Ok can someone explain to me why people say orb walk instead of stutter step or animation canceling? The term doesn't really fit.
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