[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;38260889]I think the most sensible solution I've seen mentioned (not officially) is "gold splash." The last-hitter still gets the full amount of gold for a creep kill, but an additional sum is split between all allied units in a moderate area. Not a big amount, just 2-5 gold per minion splashed, maybe. Possibly a higher amount as the game progresses.
It'd be enough to drastically improve a support champion's ability to afford more varied builds, but also wouldn't change the experience for solo-lanes to a notable degree.[/QUOTE]
Huh, assuming that it's a 5 gold splash that's 500 gold assuming the carry gets 100 last hits, and that is assuming. Seems kinda low, but it may be much higher when paired with other sources of gold.
[QUOTE=Repulsion;38260928]Huh, assuming that it's a 5 gold splash that's 500 gold assuming the carry gets 100 last hits, and that is assuming. Seems kinda low, but it may be much higher when paired with other sources of gold.[/QUOTE]
That basically covers the cost of your warding, allowing the gold income from your Gp10's to be put towards actual items. Numbers might need some tweaking, but I think the idea itself is pretty solid! I would definitely be pretty pleased to see it in action.
that would make double bruiser lanes the meta again and no supports
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although i'd rather it be double bruiser since support ad is the most boring thing on the planet
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38260981]that would make double bruiser lanes the meta again and no supports
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although i'd rather it be double bruiser since support ad is the most boring thing on the planet[/QUOTE]
I dunno, do you think that'd be enough gold to keep a double-bruiser lane viable past the first few levels? I mean, it'd be a stronger combo, sure, but the support would be stronger as well.
Ionno! It's just one of the ideas I read.
thing about double bruiser lanes is that if you pick the right guys (blitz xin, blitz darius, jarvan xin, panth xin) you begin the snowball, and mainly you do that by killing the (usually) squishy support over and over again
hell, the double bruiser lane works amazingly in pubs right now simply because bruisers are better than AD carries in pubs 80% of the time and you can destroy them in laning
giving out extra gold would just mean that more variety of bruisers could be used, so you don't necessarily need to have one supporty-ish bruiser and one tons of damage guy all the time
btw jayce + blitzcrank is also godlike
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38261116]thing about double bruiser lanes is that if you pick the right guys (blitz xin, blitz darius, jarvan xin, panth xin) you begin the snowball, and mainly you do that by killing the (usually) squishy support over and over again
hell, the double bruiser lane works amazingly in pubs right now simply because bruisers are better than AD carries in pubs 80% of the time and you can destroy them in laning
giving out extra gold would just mean that more variety of bruisers could be used, so you don't necessarily need to have one supporty-ish bruiser and one tons of damage guy all the time[/QUOTE]
Variety and options are good.
[QUOTE=Guy Mannly;38259049]yeah i don't exactly spend a lot of time in this thread and a lot of people who post here are new/inexperienced. it's generally safe to assume, you don't need to be a smartass about me guessing wrong
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especially when your post was about how the game should reward you for something that takes no skill to do just because you're [i]generous enough[/i] to buy wards for your team.
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and based on your history of posting about how karma is a solid support, qss should be bought versus darius, and.. well.. [url=http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1218977&p=38135535&viewfull=1#post38135535]this[/url], it's pretty logical to assume that you're either under 1300 elo or not summoner level 30 yet.
saying you "main support" means nothing when you consider the number of sub-1400 supports who don't know what first items to buy.[/QUOTE]
QSS is amazing vs darius wtf lol
It's basically doubling your health when he ults you
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[QUOTE=l l;38259150]why did they change the video and add unfunny shit? (sanic, etc)[/QUOTE]
it's exactly the same as it was before
how does halving damage = doubling health?
also he also has autoattacks + slow and Q which does 315+1.05bonus ad on low cd you know
spending 900g just to halve his damage on his ult when an assload of the rest of his damage is physical is a waste
getting qss late is an option but getting it any time before midgame = lose lane
but even when you get it late, it's better to QSS a stun since that can mean the end of you much more than a darius possibly ulting you, out of another 4 people
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and the worst thing about getting a QSS is that darius in lane will spam Q to harass you and zone you and push you out of lane, not ult, so no armor means get out of lane instantly
[QUOTE=Flip pl;38261124]btw jayce + blitzcrank is also godlike[/QUOTE]
Yeah, if your blitz can grab. Tried this and the blitz I was with was awful. He's my best friend mind, still dreadful...
playing with irl friends always causes you to lose this is a true known fact
Our "honorable" player said "honor me" in all chat before ragequitting
ty riot
[QUOTE=Elspin;38255401]Who counters mordekaiser in lane? [/QUOTE]
Yorick
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And not a single grab was landed that week.
[QUOTE=Clive;38261602]Yeah, if your blitz can grab. Tried this and the blitz I was with was awful. He's my best friend mind, still dreadful...[/QUOTE]
with jayce you can go mancrank and walk up to fist them roughly
[QUOTE=Jund;38262194]Our "honorable" player said "honor me" in all chat before ragequitting
ty riot[/QUOTE]
did he ragequit because people said they wouldn't do it?
if that's the case then just tell him you'll do it, then don't do it when the game ends
[QUOTE=Flubadoo;38261356]how does halving damage = doubling health?
also he also has autoattacks + slow and Q which does 315+1.05bonus ad on low cd you know
spending 900g just to halve his damage on his ult when an assload of the rest of his damage is physical is a waste
getting qss late is an option but getting it any time before midgame = lose lane
but even when you get it late, it's better to QSS a stun since that can mean the end of you much more than a darius possibly ulting you, out of another 4 people
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and the worst thing about getting a QSS is that darius in lane will spam Q to harass you and zone you and push you out of lane, not ult, so no armor means get out of lane instantly[/QUOTE]
If you don't have a blink escape good luck escaping his burst and living if you're ranged
You can use it after the cripping strike to escape the slow
It's not that good but it's not bad either. Personally I'd never buy it, period, since the nerf.
Also his ult does 2x damage with max bleed stacks. So if you remove them then the result is obvious
again Im not saying get it I'm saying that it's far beyond useless
[QUOTE=mixshifter;38262726]did he ragequit because people said they wouldn't do it?
if that's the case then just tell him you'll do it, then don't do it when the game ends[/QUOTE]
No he ragequit because he was 0/3 at 6 minutes
[QUOTE=Jund;38262991]No he ragequit because he was 0/3 at 6 minutes[/QUOTE]
2mlg
Guess I'm just not meant to play League today! I decided to go back to blindpick, so that I could try out a new support champion. Three AP mids instalock, and start cursing at each other.
I dodge, wait out my five minutes, and try again. Four tops.
This game, sometimes!
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;38263534]Guess I'm just not meant to play League today! I decided to go back to blindpick, so that I could try out a new support champion. Three AP mids instalock, and start cursing at each other.
I dodge, wait out my five minutes, and try again. Four tops.
This game, sometimes![/QUOTE]
You can talk like that all you want but we all know that you're already dead on the inside
'Players who work as a team win 38% of their games'
Good stat
I wonder who, theoretically and including abilities, is the best dunkmaster (besides Yi, of course)
perhaps vayne, with that W and R
[QUOTE=papaya;38263619]I wonder who, theoretically and including abilities, is the best dunkmaster (besides Yi, of course)
perhaps vayne, with that W and R[/QUOTE]
janna huehuehue
we need flub to graph it
Probably Sion because of AD steroid and not dying in 2 seconds
Sion has all the buffs of a good dunkmaster.
fiora too
Not really
She dies quickly and her ult doesn't scale off crit/AS
Was playing a match as Elise, got a double kill in the blue at top but the rest of the team was cornering me around the lane, I switched out to Spider and tried to run tru their turret while it was killing minions, all the minions died just as I came into range, one hit would kill me, but then the turret focused one of my spiderlings and I everyone just said "OP" in all chat, lol.
AD Sion is the game's only hypercarry, too bad it requires [B][U]SHITLOAD[/U][/B] of farm to do well.
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