Half-Life 2 Enhancement Mod - Games

[QUOTE=NowhereMan;38508732][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/5wA0Eh.png[/IMG] This is an example of how most of this stuff goes. I know it's still in development but honestly these models look less realistic than the original Half Life 2 models. Mostly Breen and Barney. It just looks like 3D cheese.[/QUOTE] I think there isn't enough shading differences in the new texture compared to the original. Look at the jacket, you don't see any shading there at all. Look at her face, the original had more varying shades from bright to dark, while the other one feels quite pale in comparison.

[QUOTE=NowhereMan;38508732][IMG_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/5wA0Eh.png[/IMG_thumb] This is an example of how most of this stuff goes. I know it's still in development but honestly these models look less realistic than the original Half Life 2 models. Mostly Breen and Barney. It just looks like 3D cheese.[/QUOTE] That's also the very first texture I ever made for this mod, it's crap, I know, I'm in the process of remaking it. Also were you referring to[I] this[/I] Barney> [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/PdAdS.png[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/dU2ul.jpg[/img_thumb] < or [I]this[/I] Barney? I had forgotten to go through the album and remove a lot of the old pics of skins in the mod.

I dont know how to think of some of the new models, some of them look [I]really[/I] good, but on the other hand, some of them need a little bit of tweaking (barney) while others need a whole lot more tweaking (early Gman was an example of this, but your new gman looks nearly perfect)

[QUOTE=WillerinV1.02;38511841]I dont know how to think of some of the new models, some of them look [I]really[/I] good, but on the other hand, some of them need a little bit of tweaking (barney) while others need a whole lot more tweaking (early Gman was an example of this, but your new gman looks nearly perfect)[/QUOTE] We don't have any "models" as of yet, really. We just have "skins" of the faces. Also, if you guys tell me what needs to be tweaked about Barney, I will try my best to fix him.

[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38511862]We don't have any "models" as of yet, really. We just have "skins" of the faces. Also, if you guys tell me what needs to be tweaked about Barney, I will try my best to fix him.[/QUOTE] Barney's eyelashes seem a bit too long and defined. It looks sort of like he's wearing mascara.

Barney could also use more details to show the chin, as the original had parts of it done in the texture and the way the new one is right now kinda makes it look too large.

[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38503087]How's this look? [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/qLFNT.jpg[/img_thumb] I made a new normal map and played with the texture some more.[/QUOTE] Still a little iffy on the eyes but this is pretty fuckin' rad.

Alyx (heavy WIP) [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/UiMxh.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/7eqGP.jpg[/img_thumb] [I]The lighting in this pic's^ a bit dark, making her skin look orangey. I also forgot to remove rim lighting (which is why her hair looks so weird) when I took em :stupid:[/I]

[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38513408]Alyx (heavy WIP) [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/UiMxh.jpg[/img_thumb] [I]The lighting in the pic's a bit dark, making her skin look orangey.[/I][/QUOTE] I know this is a heavy WIP, but I prefer the old one which is one on the imgur album*, it more like the original Alyx without being too far off

[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38513408]Alyx (heavy WIP) [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/UiMxh.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/7eqGP.jpg[/img_thumb] [I]The lighting in this pic's^ a bit dark, making her skin look orangey. I also forgot to remove rim lighting (which is why her hair looks so weird) when I took em :stupid:[/I][/QUOTE]What's wrong with her eye colour? Isn't it supposed to be brown?

[QUOTE=Bumbanut;38514937]What's wrong with her eye colour? Isn't it supposed to be brown?[/QUOTE] Nope, her eye's are green like the vanilla HL2 skin. But in vanilla HL2, it can't render some things, like the eye shaders, as well as later engine versions.

I think the cheeks are a bit too too red, and the area around her headband is shiny. Not trying to nitpick though, but like I said before, that's just me.

[QUOTE=RockmanYoshi;38515550]I think the cheeks are a bit too too red, and the area around her headband is shiny. Not trying to nitpick though, but like I said before, that's just me.[/QUOTE] I'll try and fix the cheeks, as for the headband, that's a problem with the rim lighting, I just forgot to take the rim lighting out of the VMT before taking the pictures.

[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38507621]I'm planning on having 3 versions of the standard zombies in the mod: 1 with a jacket and the white undershirt, 1 with just the undershirt, and 1 with a rebel outfit (plus maybe a jacket-less rebel). All body grouped onto one model. And, they actually don't wear labcoats in HL2, it's the white shirt under their blue jackets. Thank you! As for lighting, we're hoping to switch all the lighting in the g-man scenes to one that resemble those used in EP1 and EP2. [editline]18th November 2012[/editline] -I still don't think baked ambient shading is very good, if we get stuff like SSAO working, then you don't need the baked shading. Imho baked shading makes things look like someone stuffed dirt into crevices, or painted areas black for no reason, and if you look at many animations, they expose those ugly areas with the baked shading a lot, making you notice the ugly areas. -I still don't think making things "sharper" will change the feel of HL2. -As for color grading/correction, I'd rather not have those, like in the vanilla HL2, they didn't have grading/correction, or if they did it was very slight giving HL2 a more unique feel, and not having it look like every other game on the market. [editline]18th November 2012[/editline] Also, here's a pic of the new USP pistol model: [img_thumb]https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/50983eca5760ec391c001f65/50a7ebf100adb08759006831/bb971afb6fafba133de9c7a8abcaefac/USP_Match.png[/img_thumb] It still needs to be UVmapped, textured, and have a normal map added to it.[/QUOTE] Pistol is nice! fits in with HL2. However, please weather it alittle! Also Alyx's hair is really odd with that headband.

[QUOTE=SFC3;38516389]Pistol is nice! fits in with HL2. However, please weather it alittle! Also Alyx's hair is really odd with that headband.[/QUOTE] Let me answer this with 2 quotes from previous posts: [QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38507621]-It still needs to be UVmapped, textured, and have a normal map added to it.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38515619]-as for the headband, that's a problem with the rim lighting, I just forgot to take the rim lighting out of the VMT before taking the pictures.[/QUOTE] [B]Also, we now have a banner set up on the front page of the thread! (thanks to [I]Brandonsh[/I])[/B]

Something about Barney is just off. I think it's his mouth. It's pursed a little too much. Or maybe it's always like that and I never noticed.

Nah it's just the eyes. Both the new Barney and Alyx have very strange looking eyes - the originals had much darker, more solid eyes. It's actually way more realistic now but we're all so used to the original art style that it doesn't sit right. The new eyes need to have the shine / reflections removed and colour adjusted to perfectly match the originals, then darken them somewhat. That will make all of the difference!

You really need to add baked AO to your textures.

[QUOTE=Sobek-;38523250]Nah it's just the eyes. Both the new Barney and Alyx have very strange looking eyes - the originals had much darker, more solid eyes. It's actually way more realistic now but we're all so used to the original art style that it doesn't sit right. The new eyes need to have the shine / reflections removed and colour adjusted to perfectly match the originals, then darken them somewhat. That will make all of the difference![/QUOTE] -I like them with the shine better than the dry looking vanilla ones. [QUOTE=TextQUAKE;38524241]You really need to add baked AO to your textures.[/QUOTE] -Just wait until we have the new models, with the new normal maps and textures, they won't need baked AO, plus we're hoping to have SSAO added to the mod (another reason to not have baked AO). Note, that if [B][I]TONS[/I][/B] of people want me to add baked AO, and can prove to me that a texture can't be made that looks good with normal maps and SSAO, [B]but [I]without[/I][/B] [I]baked AO[/I] on the Alien Swarm engine, then I [I]WILL[/I] add baked AO.

Also, I have a name suggestion! City 17 : Source?

[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38525409]-I like them with the shine better than the dry looking vanilla ones. -Just wait until we have the new models, with the new normal maps and textures, they won't need baked AO, plus we're hoping to have SSAO added to the mod (another reason to not have baked AO). Note, that if [B][I]TONS[/I][/B] of people want me to add baked AO, and can prove to me that a texture can't be made that looks good with normal maps and SSAO, [B]but [I]without[/I][/B] [I]baked AO[/I] on the Alien Swarm engine, then I [I]WILL[/I] add baked AO.[/QUOTE] I say we have enough people to atleast try baked AO and do a comparison.

[QUOTE=Jutseph;38527764]Also, I have a name suggestion! City 17 : Source?[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.moddb.com/mods/city-17-episode-1[/url]

[QUOTE=Da Big Man;38530550][URL]http://www.moddb.com/mods/city-17-episode-1[/URL][/QUOTE] Great mod and a lot of us got inspiration to do this from that. Shame it's on a infinite hiatus.

I know it's going to change, but I can't help but laugh when I look at Alyx's hair. It looks like she sprayed chrome paint on it.

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;38530854]Great mod and a lot of us got inspiration to do this from that. Shame it's on a infinite hiatus.[/QUOTE] Wait what it is?

[QUOTE=IM BATMAN;38530854]Great mod and a lot of us got inspiration to do this from that. Shame it's on a infinite hiatus.[/QUOTE] Never liked C17 that much, it was more of a "LOOK HOW GOOD WE MADE SOURCE LOOK" mod. They managed to recapture the feel of episode 1 city battles quite well, but at the same time it means that the mod won't have an unique style to it like a lot of mods have (black mesa for example). Besides several years in development and no mention of the story ? :v:

New Images (these were taken in-mod): [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/NXcY0.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Dbuwc.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/zum5Q.jpg[/img_thumb] < yes, yes I know, I still have to fix Barney's eye lashes. I can never get good lighting on Alyx's face, vanilla or mine. Also note that the mod currently has very light film grain added to it, we're working on removing that.

[QUOTE=FpShepard;38531682]Never liked C17 that much, it was more of a "LOOK HOW GOOD WE MADE SOURCE LOOK" mod. They managed to recapture the feel of episode 1 city battles quite well, but at the same time it means that the mod won't have an unique style to it like a lot of mods have (black mesa for example). Besides several years in development and no mention of the story ? :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah, the biggest part to me was the fact that they were releasing the source to everything. Even if it's dead, they should still release whats done of it.

[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38531701]New Images (these were taken in-mod): [img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/NXcY0.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/Dbuwc.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/zum5Q.jpg[/img_thumb] < yes, yes I know, I still have to fix Barney's eye lashes. I can never get good lighting on Alyx's face, vanilla or mine. Also note that the mod currently has very light film grain added to it, we're working on removing that.[/QUOTE] No! Keep film grain optional!

This is looking amazing, you guys are doing a great job. Not to mention you guys are champs at taking criticism, that's always great for a dev team.