[img_thumb]http://images.wikia.com/half-life/en/images/3/35/Bullsquid_beta.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091223235548/half-life/en/images/1/15/Bullsquid_hl1.jpg[/img_thumb]
To me, the HL2 Leak model's tentacles are way too thin, it just looks....wrong to me.
Aaand, what's better, having a Red bullsquid like the leak, or a yellow, like the original?
[QUOTE=Marden;38853645]Any chance getting the Black Mesa ones? Same goes for Houndeyes.[/QUOTE]
I don't know, to me the BM ones looked, just ok-ish. There's something about the front of it that looks really off to me. Maybe it's just the look of the blood, how it's, for some reason, only covering the base of the tentacles.
[img_thumb]http://zwieracz.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/522771.jpg[/img_thumb]
Though I do really like the stance it's in, how its tail doesn't stick straight out behind it.
Which reminds me, I need to start making some concept art for some of these new enemies.
[editline]2012[/editline]
I think I know what it is about the tentacles on the Leak ones, it's because they're attached lower on it than the HL1 version. With the HL1 version, its body slopes right down to the tentacle ends, with the beta, it dips down at the base, then the tentacles go up again.
i like the leak's better actually
when you've actually played the beta you'll know why i do
Perhaps earthian Sun changed their skin color to red?
[QUOTE=Mashak;38853787]Perhaps earthian Sun changed their skin color to red?[/QUOTE]
Bullsquids-"GAAAH!!! I FORGOT MY SUN SCREEN!!!!" :v:
The Bullsquid of Jersey Shore
bullsquids are reptilians I think so I don't think they'd burn up like that.
they would however be very dirty due to the filthiness of the canals that they'd probably inhabit.
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38853730]I don't know, to me the BM ones looked, just ok-ish. There's something about the front of it that looks really off to me. Maybe it's just the look of the blood, how it's, for some reason, only covering the base of the tentacles.
Though I do really like the stance it's in, how its tail doesn't stick straight out behind it.
Which reminds me, I need to start making some concept art for some of these new enemies.
[editline]2012[/editline]
I think I know what it is about the tentacles on the Leak ones, it's because they're attached lower on it than the HL1 version. With the HL1 version, its body slopes right down to the tentacle ends, with the beta, it dips down at the base, then the tentacles go up again.[/QUOTE]
I think there isn't better bullsquid model than the BM one at the moment. And your issue might be fixed with a different texture. The problem I see is BM team are very strict with their content or did that change?
But I do like the idea of bullsquids looking thinner because of worse food supply, but isn't it possible that they still get enough food from unfortunate citizens who seek the rebels?
[QUOTE=Coffee;38854159]bullsquids are reptilians I think so I don't think they'd burn up like that.[/QUOTE]
I don't think Bullsquids are reptilians, they just don't look it. Plus the lack of scales.
Bullsquids are more- squiddy. Hence the name.
Their eyes say reptile though.
[editline]16th December 2012[/editline]
Now that I think of it, alien species probably can't be defined in the same way we define animals anyway.
Will there be animations for a headcrab transforming a host?
Any chance of the Hydra possibly coming back? I know it'd be a pain to model/animate/code, but I'd be pretty cool for it to come out of grates and stuff, maybe even recolor it for the mucky sewage.
[QUOTE=Griffster26;38854327]Will there be animations for a headcrab transforming a host?[/QUOTE]
There are some in Water Hazard where the headcrab jumps on the citizen.
[QUOTE=SFC3;38854350]There are some in Water Hazard where the headcrab jumps on the citizen.[/QUOTE]
i know that
i mean like a the thing style mutation
with the chest cavity tearing open and the hands breaking apart and forming claws.
A quick note I'd like to bring up:
[IMG]http://s9.postimage.org/p9pwijo3z/1149189_hl2_20090926_165518_super.png[/IMG]
compared to:
[IMG]http://images.wikia.com/pirates/images/archive/2/25/20101205010930!Kraken_mouth_DMC.jpg[/IMG]
Less about size and number of teeth, but more about detail. Maybe because poor Icky here was far enough back that it looked more like a peek-a-boo scare in retrospect. :zoid:
[QUOTE=Griffster26;38854383]i know that
i mean like a the thing style mutation
with the chest cavity tearing open and the hands breaking apart and forming claws.[/QUOTE]
That would be pretty cool to add, though maybe a bit too complex, as it would require another model with special bones just for that, with 2-3 different skins for how bloody it gets in the process, or coming up with some blood texture overlay or something.
[editline]16th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=J*Rod;38854430]A quick note I'd like to bring up:
[B]REALLY BIG IMAGES[/B]
Less about size and number of teeth, but more about detail. Maybe because poor Icky here was far enough back that it looked more like a peek-a-boo scare in retrospect. :zoid:[/QUOTE]
Are you saying that it needs a high quality skin (which I was going to do any way), or are you saying that you should encounter it in a different way?
Can you please thumb your images too? They take up a lot of space at the moment.
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38853730][img_thumb]http://images.wikia.com/half-life/en/images/3/35/Bullsquid_beta.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091223235548/half-life/en/images/1/15/Bullsquid_hl1.jpg[/img_thumb]
To me, the HL2 Leak model's tentacles are way too thin, it just looks....wrong to me.
Aaand, what's better, having a Red bullsquid like the leak, or a yellow, like the original?
I don't know, to me the BM ones looked, just ok-ish. There's something about the front of it that looks really off to me. Maybe it's just the look of the blood, how it's, for some reason, only covering the base of the tentacles.
[img_thumb]http://zwieracz.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/522771.jpg[/img_thumb]
Though I do really like the stance it's in, how its tail doesn't stick straight out behind it.
Which reminds me, I need to start making some concept art for some of these new enemies.
[editline]2012[/editline]
I think I know what it is about the tentacles on the Leak ones, it's because they're attached lower on it than the HL1 version. With the HL1 version, its body slopes right down to the tentacle ends, with the beta, it dips down at the base, then the tentacles go up again.[/QUOTE]
anyone have a picture of the bullsquid from Nightwatch: Source? I remember it was pretty good but I can't find almost anything from this mod anymore, since it got canceled :/
[QUOTE=Coffee;38854298]Their eyes say reptile though.[/QUOTE]
Look more squid-like to me.
[img_thumb]http://freewalls.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Squid.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://images.wikia.com/half-life/en/images/3/35/Bullsquid_beta.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://www.wildlife-art.net/images/kimberley053.jpg[/img_thumb]
Unless you're talking about the BM one, in which case it's not a official skin, yes the BM one looks reptilian, but I don't think that's the look VALVe was going for. Even with the HL1 Bullsquid.
[editline]16th December 2012[/editline]
Or maybe they were going more for a fish-squid eye combo for it, the fish eye (3rd picture on the right) looks pretty close in coloration, it's just missing a more squid-shaped pupil.
The HL2 one actually looks like a squid if you just look at the mouth and the eye area, and ignore the area above and behind the eye.
[editline]16th December 2012[/editline]
Hence the name Bullsquid
Plus they literally can't be reptiles because they're from a different planet.
Do his eyes look better now?
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/nd4U7.jpg[/img_thumb]
[editline]17th December 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=ikermitkiller;38851307]His hair seems lower resolution than the rest of his face, maybe improve that if you haven't already, it's something that really stands out to me on his face.[/QUOTE]
If you see a blurry part on one of my [U]WIP[/U] textures, that means I haven't done that part yet.
Id say the bullsquid looked more amphibian...
(on bodygroups... Whilst better in the long run.. wouldn't that be more effort?)
[QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38865067]Do his eyes look better now?
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/nd4U7.jpg[/img_thumb]
[/QUOTE]
They just need to be a bit darker, just did a quick edit
[t]http://imgkk.com/i/9ahk.png[/t]
Makes him look a lot less, ghostly :v:
[QUOTE=kaze4159;38865288]They just need to be a bit darker, just did a quick edit
[t]http://imgkk.com/i/9ahk.png[/t]
Makes him look a lot less, ghostly :v:[/QUOTE]
Like this?
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/i6iEl.jpg[/img_thumb]
I know you're working on the eyes for the moment, but I really feel like I should bring this up: It seems like you have his skin tone a touch too red. Like someone else said, it's like he has a bad sunburn or something.
On that note, those eyes you have there look pretty good to me.
[B][U]**CLOSED**[/U][/B]
I just thought of a good 3rd poll to do.
Should the Vortigaunts look like they do in HL2, EP2, or a HL2-HL1 high poly cross?
Vote [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img] If you'd like to see high poly versions of the original HL2 Vorts.
Vote [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/cross.png[/img] If you'd like the EP2 vorts.
Vote [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/palette.png[/img] If you'd like a high poly cross between the HL2/EP2 and HL1 vorts.
[img_thumb]http://images.wikia.com/half-life/en/images/6/6b/Alien_Slave_HD.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://images.wikia.com/half-life/en/images/6/69/Vort_HL2.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://images.wikia.com/half-life/en/images/b/ba/Vort_Ep2.jpg[/img_thumb]
[B]This poll lasted just over 24 hours.[/B]
[B][U]**CLOSED**[/U][/B]
[B]The cross between HL2/EP2 and HL1 Vortigaunts wins! With 48 -for the cross, 16 -for EP2, 7 -for HL2, and 1 who didn't read the guidelines.[/B]
I always liked the HL1 vort design a lot better, seem a lot more alien to me
[QUOTE=Bloodshot12;38867580]I always liked the HL1 vort design a lot better, seem a lot more alien to me[/QUOTE]
Agreed, though in HL2 I think they were trying to make them look a bit more friendly, or something. As originally they had "TK" on so you could go and shoot the citizens and vorts, so they probably tried to make them a bit less menacing to make you not want to shoot them as much.
This comes to mind
[url]http://www.screencuisine.net/hlcomic/index.php?date=2006-04-14[/url]
I'd like a cross between HL2 and EP2, but I wouldn't mind a high poly HL1 remake for Black Mesa. I'd always figured that in the ~20 years the vortigaunts started walking up right to emulate humans just as they'd adopted english.
[QUOTE=Cows Rule;38869916]I'd like a cross between HL2 and EP2, but I wouldn't mind a high poly HL1 remake for Black Mesa. I'd always figured that in the ~20 years the vortigaunts started walking up right to emulate humans just as they'd adopted english.[/QUOTE]
I never really liked the EP2 vorts, I mean the model was great, but the skin just looked too...un-alien, and too smooth.
That's why I said: [QUOTE=Fat-Corgi-Guy;38867494]If you'd like a [B]high poly [U]cross[/U][/B] between the [B]HL2/EP2[/B] [I]and[/I] [B]HL1 vorts[/B].[/QUOTE] That way they'd be standing more up-right like the HL2 vorts, but have some of the look/style of the HL1 vorts.
Also if the combo of HL1 and HL2 Vortigaunts wins, I'll make a moc up sketch of what I think it might look like. Then people can say what they like/don't like about it, and what needs to be changed to be better.
[editline]17th December 2012[/editline]
Small update to Breen, I mostly was just detailing his cheeks.
[img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/3bVI3.jpg[/img_thumb][img_thumb]http://i.imgur.com/WYB5h.jpg[/img_thumb]
Also, in reply to the people who said he looks sunburned at the moment. I agree, though just so you know, I don't change the skin coloring until I have the face textures mostly done, at that point it's much easier, than doing all the different layers I use individually.
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