One of my biggest gripes about this game is the detection of your using lethal force to when it's needed. Ends in a lot of really low scores.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
And that shooting arms and legs with a lethal weapon doesn't put the person down. I'd MUCH rather that, as apposed to lethal weapons being basically "shoot to kill or die."
You can use lethal force if a/the suspect is pointing a gun at a hostage, you, or a fellow officer.
Your teammates can use lethal force all they want. I see them blasting baddies with the M4A1 all the time.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28205795]One of my biggest gripes about this game is the detection of your using lethal force to when it's needed. Ends in a lot of really low scores.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
And that shooting arms and legs with a lethal weapon doesn't put the person down. I'd MUCH rather that, as apposed to lethal weapons being basically "shoot to kill or die."[/QUOTE]
Non-lethal shotgun.
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To be totally honest i always went non-lethal or when i wanted some challenge then lethal but i never once cared about the score, the game is so much more fun when you just clear it out how you want.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;28197307]
Point? That's one of the hardest levels and to blame your equipment solely on your loss is dumb.[/QUOTE]
I didn't blame it on my equipment you silly person. We lost because we couldn't do anything seriously. We kept fucking up and this game is fun because of it.
[QUOTE=GeneralFredrik;28206271]I didn't blame it on my equipment you silly person. We lost because we couldn't do anything seriously. We kept fucking up and this game is fun because of it.[/QUOTE]
Well excuuuuuse me but the way your post was worded implied it. I was wrong.
[QUOTE=PILLS HERE!;28205832]You can use lethal force if a/the suspect is pointing a gun at a hostage, you, or a fellow officer.
Your teammates can use lethal force all they want. I see them blasting baddies with the M4A1 all the time.[/QUOTE]
Well duh, I know, but it really doesn't work all the time. Of course it works when they're pointing a gun at a hostage, but the amount of time inbetween them pointing their gun at you and shooting you is so short. I'll either take a hit, or shoot right at the start of the animation and it'll be considered unauthorized use of lethal force.
And singleplayer is lame.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;28205833]Non-lethal shotgun.[/QUOTE]
That's no excuse. The LTL shotgun is pump action and more inaccurate to top it off, I'd rather be able to shoot their proficient arm or knee cap someone than have to deal with a crappy LTL gun.
Rambo through the game with a trainer like a bowse, arresting everyone and everything from 10 metres away, a constant stream of peppery spray balls to the face of suspects, all i can hear is AHHH AHH AHHHHHHHH
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;28206330]Well excuuuuuse me but the way your post was worded implied it. I was wrong.[/QUOTE]
You are not the only one that have missunderstood what I said. I should word stuff better.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28206339]
That's no excuse. The LTL shotgun is pump action and more inaccurate to top it off, I'd rather be able to shoot their proficient arm or knee cap someone than have to deal with a crappy LTL gun.[/QUOTE]
I'm sorry but that shotgun is arguably the best gun in the game.
+ You don't get penalized for shooting without yelling first
+ Bypasses armour
+ GUARANTEED incapacitated/surrender in 2 hits max
+ Doesn't kill
- Slightly inaccurate
I'd say the advantages FAR outweigh the disadvantages
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28206339]And singleplayer is lame.[/QUOTE]
No.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;28206400]I'm sorry but that shotgun is arguably the best gun in the game.
+ You don't get penalized for shooting without yelling first
+ Bypasses armour
+ GUARANTEED incapacitated/surrender in 2 hits max
+ Doesn't kill
- Slightly inaccurate
I'd say the advantages FAR outweigh the disadvantages
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
No.[/QUOTE]
You don't seem to get it. I'm commenting on the fact that the game doesn't have different hitboxes for different parts of the body, besides the head, not that I think bullets > beanbags.
And I think singleplayer is lame. There's nothing to say "no" about.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28206449]No thanks I'd rather my lethal gun. I'm commenting on the fact that the game doesn't have different hitboxes for different parts of the body, besides the head, not that I think bullets > beanbags.
And I think singleplayer is lame. There's nothing to say "no" about.
[/QUOTE]
No ninja edit for you.
It does actually.
No, you said, and I quote "And singleplayer is lame".
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28206449]You don't seem to get it. I'm commenting on the fact that the game doesn't have different hitboxes for different parts of the body, besides the head, not that I think bullets > beanbags.
And I think singleplayer is lame. There's nothing to say "no" about.[/QUOTE]
According to chunkeymonkey, he says no because he doesn't think the singleplayer is lame just like you just said that the singeplayer is lame. Easy.
Fucking hivemind.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;28206480]No ninja edit for you.
It does actually.
No, you said, and I quote "And singleplayer is lame".[/QUOTE]
You're still missing the point, however you're correct. I worded it badly. The seperate hitboxes are there, but only for different damage values. Take a look at what I said again, you seem to have forgotten:
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28205795]
And that shooting arms and legs with a lethal weapon doesn't put the person down. I'd MUCH rather that, as apposed to lethal weapons being basically "shoot to kill or die."[/QUOTE]
[editline]jwatl[/editline]
I do prefer lethal weapons in most situations as it is, but that was beside the point so I edited it out.
How am I missing the point? You're frustrated with unintentional lethal kills and I provided the perfect solution. It seems to me that the problem now is just you being stubborn.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
Say what you will, but if you want to do things the hard way then so be it.
I told you, the LTL shotgun is not as practical as a lethal rifle or pistol would be if the game were a tad more realistic in the way I mentioned. I'm just wishing there was a feature in the game, not asking anyone for advice on what gun I should use. I know the LTL shotgun is if you don't miss and you've got friends to cover you, you don't need to tell me this.
You go shoot yourself in the arm then attempt to fire a weapon. You'll see what I mean. Or the knee and try to run across 5 rooms before hiding in a corner for 10 minutes.
Try [url=http://www.moddb.com/mods/sheriffs-special-forces-realism-mod]this mod then[/url]
I agree with Mbbird. Shooting someone in a certain part of the body should affect their running, aiming, holding a gun, etc.
Or try this if you're frustrated with the lethal force stuff
[url=http://www.moddb.com/mods/11-99-enhancement-mod]Link[/url]
[QUOTE=Killerjc;28202069][U]-snip-[/U]
[editline]21st February 2011[/editline]
ok hotshot, if its so easy for you, what's your average score for swat4[/QUOTE]
Average score? about 95.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=zeldar;28202745]Nice username for an honorable military man. :v:[/QUOTE]
Don't be hatin' on the whities of justice man.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Sector 7;28204386]You learn Swat 4's amazing "room clearing" skills in the tutorial. There is almost nothing to it. People fail in Swat 4 when they get impatient or trigger happy.[/QUOTE]
A. Didn't play the tutorial.
B. Knowing how to do select things makes me better at them in video games, especialy tactics.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;28205833]Non-lethal shotgun.[/QUOTE]
The shotgun's almost as much fun as the taser.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mbbird;28206339]Well duh, I know, but it really doesn't work all the time. Of course it works when they're pointing a gun at a hostage, but the amount of time inbetween them pointing their gun at you and shooting you is so short. I'll either take a hit, or shoot right at the start of the animation and it'll be considered unauthorized use of lethal force.
And singleplayer is lame.
That's no excuse. The LTL shotgun is pump action and more inaccurate to top it off, I'd rather be able to shoot their proficient arm or knee cap someone than have to deal with a crappy LTL gun.[/QUOTE]
I'd have to agree, the AI isn't quite as proficient as I was hoping but I can manage them well enough, so it's not lame, just tiresome.
[QUOTE=Capn'Underpants;28208139][b]Average score? about 95.[/b]
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
Don't be hatin' on the whities of justice man.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
A. Didn't play the tutorial.
B. Knowing how to do select things makes me better at them in video games, especialy tactics.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
The shotgun's almost as much fun as the taser.
[editline]22nd February 2011[/editline]
I'd have to agree, the AI isn't quite as proficient as I was hoping but I can manage them well enough, so it's not lame, just tiresome.[/QUOTE]
I call bullshit
Nobody can get an average of 95, not with A-Bomb.
I'll play with you guys sometime. Got the game off a friend.
The multiplayer community is active?Awesome, may buy it :buddy:
I have spent way too much time playing COOP on this, I seem to always have it installed just in case people I usually play games with suddenly want to play.
I have been playing the SSF mod lately which adds some interesting (and slightly more realistic and less insane) missions as well as a lot of game play games.
[QUOTE=Jsm;28211103]I have spent way too much time playing COOP on this, I seem to always have it installed just in case people I usually play games with suddenly want to play.
I have been playing the SSF mod lately which adds some interesting (and slightly more realistic and less insane) missions as well as a lot of game play games.[/QUOTE]
And the removal of UUODF. :buddy:
[QUOTE=PILLS HERE!;28208323]I call bullshit
Nobody can get an average of 95, not with A-Bomb.[/QUOTE]
A-bomb was the only map I ever had a problem with and that was because I didn't have 3 wedges and only had 2. I took the time to literaly draw out the buildings for almost every single mission on paper and mark my exact route and plan before hand.
Fairfax or whatever that map was is in my opinion the easiest level.
[QUOTE=Capn'Underpants;28217038]A-bomb was the only map I ever had a problem with and that was because I didn't have 3 wedges and only had 2. I took the time to literaly draw out the buildings for almost every single mission on paper and mark my exact route and plan before hand.
Fairfax or whatever that map was is in my opinion the easiest level.[/QUOTE]
No shit, it was linear and there were only like 3 people.
[QUOTE=elitehakor v2;28217553]No shit, it was linear and there were only like 3 people.[/QUOTE]
4 if I remember correctly, An old lady, the hostile, 2 hostages.
I think.
What's the cheapest place to buy this online? I checked D2D but it's 15$ there and that seemed a little steep.
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