• The War Z - This IS NOT A GAME, IT'S A SCAM
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[QUOTE=Tomthetechy;38891177]Friend sent me a [I]one day[/I] guest pass. I have to say this game is shockingly bad.[/QUOTE] revelations 2012 is far more better
Ok from what I'm hearing here, that settles it. I am not getting War Z.
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;38891424]revelations 2012 is far more better[/QUOTE] Speaking of which, they are still updating that game. They added new weapons/characters too. I need to check back to see what it's like.
[QUOTE=Pvt. Martin;38892076]Ok from what I'm hearing here, that settles it. I am not getting War Z.[/QUOTE] Good.
a steam admin is investigating their forum moderation because the war z guys keep banning people who criticize their game, lol [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] [url]http://steamcommunity.com/app/226700/discussions/0/828925849078277433[/url]
wait what.. they are doing it in the STEAM FORUMS TOO? jeesus christ these people need a punch in the face so they stop acting like babies
I can understand a miscommunication between Steam and the devs and with the game being in alpha stage fim. But even for $15 I wouldn't give it to these devs if they really act like a bunch of fucking children.
So, who here wants to be a mathematician? [url=http://www.pcgamesn.com/article/how-big-war-zs-map]How big is The War Z map?[/url] [quote]So we now know that The War Z only has one map, despite Hammerpoint having initially advertised multiple maps of between 100 and 400 square kilometres each. That's fine, a misunderstanding that's been corrected. The store page now correctly lists just one map, Colorado, though Hammerpoint still claim that it's 100 square kilometres in area. It certainly doesn't feel that big, so it's probably wise to check. Would you like to know how big The War Z's map really is? 50 square kilometres? 75 square kilometres? Around 10 square kilometres. Roughly. Certainly nowhere close to 100 square kilometres. Let me show you my workings, which involve crouching next to some trees with a stopwatch. Here's an overview of The War Z's Colorado map. There's no scale to work with here, so instead I measured the time it took to walk between two grid lines, which turns out to be three minutes and thirty seconds. This is useless without knowing the walking pace of a War Z character however, so in order to estimate that I lay prone and used my character to measure the distance between two trees. To do this I had to assume my character's height to be that of the average American male, 5'10". I could fit nine of him between those trees. It was very dark. Knowing the distance between the two trees to be 52.5 feet, or 16 metres, I used the time it took to walk between the trees (11.6s) to get The War Z's walking pace of 1.38m/s (which is a little faster than typical human walking speed, but there are zombies, so that makes sense). With the speed and time recorded, it's possible to measure the distance between grid lines as 289.8m. This gives every grid square on the Colorado map an area of 83,984 square metres, or 0.083984 square kilometres. All we have to do now is add up the number of squares on the map. Of course, a huge chunk of the map isn't actually playable, so I'll mark the area we're measuring in red. This is something, I'm beginning to think, Hammerpoint didn't do. That's 116 squares, which gives us a total of 9.7417 square kilometres. There are margins of error of course. The height of the character throws things out of whack considerably, but not enough to get even close to a 100 square kilometre result: if we'd assumed each character was seven feet tall that would give the map an area of around 14 square kilometres. If you count every square on the map, accessible or not, you'd still only get 21.5 square kilometres. If you assumed that walking pace was something much faster, say 6mph, the map size goes up to 35-40 square kilometres. Without a reliable standard it's difficult to come up with an exact result. But 100 square kilometres isn't it. This is why developers don't like to talk about their maps using real-world scales — you can shrink or contract a game universe by changing the relative length of a metre stick, or by claiming that the game takes place in a dimension that's identical to ours only everything is double-sized, even players. Measurements of map size hardly matter either, if a map is sufficiently large or appropriately detailed, its borders shouldn't concern players. The Colorado map perhaps represents as big a chunk as Hammerpoint claim, but it's not practically that large. Or hey, maybe I counted wrong. Hammerpoint are currently testing their next map, California, which they claim to be 420 square kilometres in area.[/quote]
[url]http://xx.reddit.com/r/TheWarZ/comments/154buz/warz_no_longer_for_purchase_on_steam/[/url] gg no re [editline]19th December 2012[/editline] I told you guys to get refunds. Get them now before this shady company cuts their losses and runs. You need to call paypal and show them the screenshot of the original steam page and explain that their game was not as described.
Valve have finally got their shit together.
i believe war z is the first game in steam that has been *shutdown lets say where you cant purchase it anymore right?
I've always been a firm defender of this game and whatnot, but Sergey COMPLETELY ruined it, I still like the game, but it's obviously not gonna be up for much longer. I wish I could get a refund, but sadly it's impossible for me.
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;38893080]i believe war z is the first game in steam that has been *shutdown lets say where you cant purchase it anymore right?[/QUOTE] Didn't DOOM 3 go off sale for a while after BFG came out? Also really hope the people who want a refund get one. We shouldn't support this kind of dev behaviour.
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;38893080]i believe war z is the first game in steam that has been *shutdown lets say where you cant purchase it anymore right?[/QUOTE] Doom 3 went away for a bit after BFG came out, and APB died like as soon as it was released so they made it not buyable anymore.
[url]http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/12/19/the-war-z-no-longer-available-on-steam/[/url] Valve is now offering refunds, Rejoice ye who where scammed.
if i bought trough xsolla and ask for refound can i get it as steam founds?...becouse a friend bought it for me after i did some programming jobs for him :v:
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;38893259][url]http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/12/19/the-war-z-no-longer-available-on-steam/[/url] Valve is now offering refunds, Rejoice ye who where scammed.[/QUOTE] The real question now is, will they be offering refunds for those who paid for the additional coins?
"Forget about Steam! We are cutting our budget and pulling out!"
[QUOTE=Alex Rider;38893546]The real question now is, will they be offering refunds for those who paid for the additional coins?[/QUOTE] Likely, I'd imagine.
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/theWarZ[/url] lol
You know it's bad when the game is pulled from steam after just one day.
This is so surreal to me right now. :v:
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I'm sure this is asked a lot, but how can I get a refund? I bought it before it was on Steam. Thanks.
[QUOTE=~ZOMG;38893978]I'm sure this is asked a lot, but how can I get a refund? I bought it before it was on Steam. Thanks.[/QUOTE] If it's paypal just dispute the charge, but if you bought it over 45 days ago you're fucked. They won't let you dispute the transaction after 45 days. I also heard somewhere that you can get a refund from xsolla even if you bought it with paypal but their website just says "The page you are looking for is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later. "
[QUOTE=~ZOMG;38893978]I'm sure this is asked a lot, but how can I get a refund? I bought it before it was on Steam. Thanks.[/QUOTE] If it was before the steam release it would of been done through that 3rd party company xsolla, you may have trouble depending if the purchase was before the 16th of october, and depending on where you live also, as Europe have different laws with getting a refund. You need the email you got from xsolla when you bought it since it has the purchase info in it, if they say you cant give a refund say that you did not agree to the new agreement thingy(TOS?) when you load the game, and that the game was not what it was advertised. I'd advise you call the number on the site to do the refund. If you're in europe we have laws that that make it easier to get a refund. *If all else fails issue a charge back
I think I can safely say that Hammerpoint Interactive suck.
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;38893080]i believe war z is the first game in steam that has been *shutdown lets say where you cant purchase it anymore right?[/QUOTE] Crysis 2 also stopped being sold when EA was trying to beat Steam via origin.
Yeah, that was the final straw. I emailed xsolla for a refund. I bought it on October 24th, so I have hope.
Someone really needs to send a trophy award to Sergey Titov for the worst Public Relations, the shape of the award would be the truck from big rigs road racing, and the engraving on the award would be "YOU'RE WINNER"
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