so is this the game that turned out to be a hilarious scam or was that a different zombie game?
why are you playing a game that was made to scam you by developers who hate you with a community that (should) scare you
[QUOTE=All0utWar;39088119]No, the difference is that the playerbase in DayZ isn't fucked and most if not everyone is friendly or will at least not shoot at first sight. It's not the value of the games. And the movement in WarZ is not as smooth as the movement is in Arma. You just press W and move at that speed while in Arma you press W and you quickly speed up.
Why did I start talking about movement. I don't know, but movement is a big factor is a game. Also you can't turn your head around like in Arma.[/QUOTE]
For me the biggest advantage that Dayz has is the voice chat, like seriously why is this not in war z yet?
In war z most cases where i killed someone was because it takes too long to write "friendly" in chat and left you vulnerable while doing so.
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;39089580]why are you playing a game that was made to scam you by developers who hate you with a community that (should) scare you[/QUOTE]
its fun
[QUOTE=All0utWar;39088119][B]No, the difference is that the playerbase in DayZ isn't fucked and most if not everyone is friendly or will at least not shoot at first sight[/B]. It's not the value of the games. And the movement in WarZ is not as smooth as the movement is in Arma. You just press W and move at that speed while in Arma you press W and you quickly speed up.
Why did I start talking about movement. I don't know, but movement is a big factor is a game. Also you can't turn your head around like in Arma.[/QUOTE]
dahahahahahah
[QUOTE=Zinayzen;39089580]why are you playing a game that was made to scam you by developers who hate you with a community that (should) scare you[/QUOTE]
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well 80% of the people that i meet in dayz were friendlies or just ignored me and went to other way
there was this time where i was in cherno swarmed by zombies and a pack of 2 guys fully geared up cleared all the zombies, gave me some guns and ammo as well supplies and then saved my ass
Just got attacked by a lone bandit with my friend.
He blatted at us with an M4, but after a long firefight including the death of my friend, I got the better of him.
He exploded with bandit loot, it was great.
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What I obtained:
AA-12 fully loaded with a Drum,
One Hatchet
2 M4 Semi's, one with 68 bullets left
2 M16s, one with 30 rounds left
1 MP5/10, fully loaded
1 Uzi
One MTV Forest armour/camo
approx. 6 bandages
1 MP5 magazine
9 x 9mm magazines
1 Stanag 30 round magazine
In the end, my backpack weighed [b]48.2[/b] kg
[QUOTE=killiam;39070075]
IMO what needs to be done at the current state:
1. Cheats. This needs to be dealt with. Period.
2. Remove third person. It's a shame they probably spent so much time into modelling and developing first-person view models, and animations, and nobody actually spends any time looking at them because of the insane handicap you put on yourself for actually using this perspective. Third-person is just way too damn effective, and doesn't fit into the game at all.
3. Server hopping. I don't know what to do about this, locking a players character to a single server for 30(+?) minutes is the best solution I can come up with honestly. I wouldn't have such a problem with server hopping, or safezone camping if it weren't for the zombies. The added zombies make it to a survival game, yeah? Or at least that's sort of the point? Most of these issues I wouldn't have a problem with at all if they just removed the zombies and just made an entirely "Anarchy, pvp free-for-all" game. At the current state, the zombies only serve as minor obstructions, and don't really have a purpose at all.[/QUOTE]
People have been saying this since October 15th. Nothing has been done and nothing will be done.
I use first person mode. I don't feel like it handicaps me or puts me at any disadvantage in any way. It's about personal preference, there's no difference apart from peering around corners without showing yourself.
My friend and I loaded up last night with a bunch of guns and some spare ammo and went around town shooting zombies.
I brought 30 9mm mags with me and only came back with 5, cleared out sleepycrest, the airport, norad, camp splinter, and a few other places.
Was actually kinda fun.
Have over 1K zombies kills now on one of my characters.
We only ran into three players too.
Two at the Ski resort which didn't notice us and we left alone because we only had pistols left, we server hopped and came back into contact with a legendary guy that had nothing on him.
We told him to back off or get shot, so he disconnected.
It was pretty interesting to play the game how it was meant to be played instead of just intentionally shooting every other player in sight.
We also did some testing.
The colt andaconda takes two hits to the chest and one hit to the face if you're close enough, and the sawn off will fuck anyone point blank even with custom gorilla and a helmet.
And another thing, my character with 4 bandit kills and 5 civi kills is counted as a bandit if someone kills me. So apparently having just one more civi kill than bandit kill counts you as a bandit.
Kinda un-fair, being as how many civi's will just shoot at you for no reason.
Maan, this game had amazing potential but they just threw it all away :(
Post a defence in the safe zone....
*Face palm*
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[QUOTE=Avager;39072143]
I had more luck and higher performance in DayZ doing everything solo than I had with a friend who could cover me, where we both were playing together 3 years in many competitive FPS, RTS and MMOs. Actually, the total lack of "surviving" aspect in both games killed them totally for me.
Food was WAY TOO EASY to find, AMMO was too common.... I wouldn't mind finding HUNDREDS OF TONS OF WEAPONRY but only like 5 bullets per HUGE amount of loot piles...but hey, that's what you get for world being set in United States of Armories.
Ability to gain much more in much less time by killing other players was another hit in crotch, no need to team up, they will just eat your food, lure zombies on you and give away position to other players who may be (are) hostile towards you.
I want a game where actually trying to survive will be hard, really heavily struggling to find any food or drinkable water with variety of contaminated one where you have to boil it before or just can't drink it unless you really don't have a much of a choice but you will suffer greatly afterwards.
I want a game where your choices will dramatically affect your chance of survival but not due to being detected by a guy who sits on airport 24/7 and changes servers every 10 minutes.[/Quote]
Are you fucking dumb?
Total lack of surviving aspect? Maybe survival in a country filled with many villages and isn't really that hard, considering there's bound to be food in all houses.
And you gain more stuff faster by killing other plays that have the stuff? No shit, that's obvious, and not everyone does that, some do, some don't, survival of the fittest.
And about the last paragraph, you have no god damn idea what you're asking for, that kind of shit would be a million times more annoying and tedious, and how often is canned food contaminated with fucked up shit? And almost every household has canned food, so it's realistic. And your choices do affect your future, you're stupid if you can't figure that out.
Looks like the people who made the emulator are working on cars:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYg6OPuMZ8g[/media]
[sp]Big Rigs Z[/sp]
you know that someting is wrong when some random group who dident made the game are able to implement better and more features than the actual war z Devs
also i just tried the war z emulator and i find myself playing it more than the war z
for some reason it feels better...maybe becouse the fact that a good lot of hacks dont work there
What is this War Z Emulator?
[QUOTE=pip12345;39108674]What is this War Z Emulator?[/QUOTE]
It basically takes the WarZ files and makes you login to a seperate server rather than the official server.
[url]http://warzemulator.com/faq.html[/url] (click on "how do I install WarZ")
[QUOTE=werewolf0020;39108477]you know that someting is wrong when some random group who dident made the game are able to implement better and more features than the actual war z Devs
also i just tried the war z emulator and i find myself playing it more than the war z
for some reason it feels better...maybe becouse the fact that a good lot of hacks dont work there[/QUOTE]
But this happens to every single game. There will ALWAYS be people who are simply better than the devs.
[QUOTE=legolover122;39108768]It basically takes the WarZ files and makes you login to a seperate server rather than the official server.
[url]http://warzemulator.com/faq.html[/url] (click on "how do I install WarZ")[/QUOTE]
Do I have to pay for the game again?
Are there less hackers?
What advantage does the emulator have over the actual release?
Does the GI still update on my actual copy of the game?
What exactly is the point of the emulator?
[QUOTE=NateLB;39109315]Do I have to pay for the game again?
Are there less hackers?
What advantage does the emulator have over the actual release?
Does the GI still update on my actual copy of the game?
What exactly is the point of the emulator?[/QUOTE]
To play for free :P?
[QUOTE=NateLB;39109315]Do I have to pay for the game again?
Are there less hackers?
What advantage does the emulator have over the actual release?
Does the GI still update on my actual copy of the game?
What exactly is the point of the emulator?[/QUOTE]
Less hackers and actual server admins I believe. Just take the emulator files and replace your regular game files with them.
[QUOTE=zeldar;39109343]Less hackers and actual server admins I believe. Just take the emulator files and replace your regular game files with them.[/QUOTE]
Do the items I find in the emulated version carry over to the actual version and vice versa?
I have a lot of guns and gear, don't want to just go throw them away.
[QUOTE=Garik;39105012]Are you fucking dumb?
Total lack of surviving aspect? Maybe survival in a country filled with many villages and isn't really that hard, considering there's bound to be food in all houses.
And you gain more stuff faster by killing other plays that have the stuff? No shit, that's obvious, and not everyone does that, some do, some don't, survival of the fittest.
And about the last paragraph, you have no god damn idea what you're asking for, that kind of shit would be a million times more annoying and tedious, and how often is canned food contaminated with fucked up shit? And almost every household has canned food, so it's realistic. And your choices do affect your future, you're stupid if you can't figure that out.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for your constructive and insightful criticism, I appreciate it.
Now, let me put my last post in better words.
DayZ and WarZ, both games kind of failed to deliver me a good survival feeling, where you are put in danger of starvation, dying of thirst and becoming seriously ill due to multiple reasons (weather, food quality, diet, exhaustion). This also leads to the last paragraph that you totally misread. Where did I say about contaminated canned food or even anything about food. It was only about water, I didn't really name the source of it, but I meant the pond ones or wells, you find here and there.
In both games, in order to die out of starvation or lack of water, is really hard, In over 50 hours of DayZ experience I haven't died once to it. WarZ was too short, but I was already set for days with supplies I gathered during 2-4 hours of my "adventure".
Another aspect you moved that I wanted to talk about is many villages and abundance of supplies. I'm not sure, but I thought both WarZ and DayZ were set years after initial outbreak and "zombie apocalypse". I think... I'm pretty sure that most if not all of the valuable supplies would be already looted by people ages ago.
In other words, I haven't felt like I was in destroyed world, that was ransacked by plague and looters. World where surviving is hard, as in both games you can totally survive without even looting.
DayZ: Hunting knife, axe, matches, a pond/lake nearby ... Good job, you are set to survive hundreds of years.
WarZ: You don't even need to loot anything, you can buy it from the cashop (I know, I know, but still, supplies are so common in this game it's not funny).
Almost there... the controversy of "Oh hurr durrr, you gain more by killing other people? No shit, cpt.obvious".
It's obvious that you will gain more in shorter period of time risking your death by attacking other players, that's logical. The problem is, there is no actual point of trying to cooperate with other people to achieve common goal, as there is none. You have no point of cooperating, other than wasting time or having fun with people you know.
I know it's sandbox game with open world and no objectives, but that's not what I'm talking about. As soon as you see a stranger, the best way to react is to shot him, take his loot and move on. Rinse and repeat.
It's not a big deal to me, it's a game, be it survival of the fittest or playing the game as a deathmatch with buggy zombies, there is no need to be totally social about everything, but still, lack of community goal is kind of sad. Yet, as I said, this is the least important thing to me.
The last thing.
"And your choices do affect your future"
You mean:
-You make noise that either attracts other players who can shot, maybe befriend with you or lure zombies in local area.
-React to distant gunfire and move towards it or away from it, with similar consequences as point above.
That's the only serious consequences I can think of.
I won't bother with other common stuff, like using that gun over another, as it's obvious... sniper rifles, assault rifles, silences ones, melee.... it's elementary knowledge that you can guess a result before you even start using them and how it will change your playstyle.
What I'm talking here, over eating or starving, how it will change your character (some people call it a "toon"), illness that distorts your view or makes it hard to concentrate (blur), these kinds of stuff. But I know the answer of the most people for this "too annoying and tedious", maybe you are just used to easy stuff, I prefer where game is as hard as it can be and wants to totally frak you up anytime, anywhere.
But oh well, I should know that kinds of reactions, especially in WarZ/DayZ threads :) .
Awaiting tl'dr responses.
Once again, thank you for constructive criticism, I REALLY do take it to my heart.
It is a tad too easy to find gear in the WarZ.
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I have a lot of shit within 20 hours of play.
I also found two forward grips, a rifle flashlight, and a red dot.
And with only a total of 11 bandit kills and 11 civi kills.
Couple the Civi's I had to kill had nothing on them, like hammers or .22 rifles.
That B93R is from a bandit though, so are those DX bandages.
[QUOTE=SweFox*;39109297]But this happens to every single game. There will ALWAYS be people who are simply better than the devs.[/QUOTE]
Have you seen WoW private servers? Most of them never even got close to fully emulating the game alone, I don't know how much it has changed since, but with WarZ it's so barebones people building emulators can surpass the devs.
[QUOTE=DaDillsta;39109664]Have you seen WoW private servers? Most of them never even got close to fully emulating the game alone, I don't know how much it has changed since, but with WarZ it's so barebones people building emulators can surpass the devs.[/QUOTE]
Can't be easy to emulate MMOs in general. Anyway, I mostly meant people who creates cheats. People who are fucking good at reverse engineering etc.
I mean, every single, LITERALLY every single game has that friggin AA cheat.
But if you play the Emulator version you won't get your very own katana!?
Don't you guys want a katana?
/jk
That vehicle thing will make WarZ even more of a joke than it is now. No more aim botters spotting you as you spawn, but car botters smashing into you as you spawn.
[I]okay so i finally spawned i guess im ready ill just start moving forward to see what i can get.
Wait..whats that sound?.. is that a flashlight?
Suddenly a Humbee bursts outta nowhere and destroys Player[/I]
vehicles are too OP NERF pls
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