Why does everyone love CS? - Games

The main flaw about this game is IMHO the weapon system. Weapons are flawed because it gives you so many choices, but only a third or a quarter of the weapons is actually used, the rest is either; not useful or there is better alternatives. And example would be the deagle, it's more powerful than all other pistols and has a good accuarcy, why would you use any other pistol if the deagle is there?

[QUOTE=BuddieBBB;15517272]The main flaw about this game is IMHO the weapon system. Weapons are flawed because it gives you so many choices, but only a third or a quarter of the weapons is actually used, the rest is either; not useful or there is better alternatives. And example would be the deagle, it's more powerful than all other pistols and has a good accuarcy, why would you use any other pistol if the deagle is there?[/QUOTE] While this is sorta true, you have to realize the game was designed to be played in a mr15/$800 format. So you actually do have to decide, if in the pistol round, you want to use your money for nades or armor, or spend that whole $800 on a deagle? It's those sort of decisions that involved the incentive you think is missing. It's just transparent due to the whole 16K start thing. Your probably used to playing on 16K servers, where everyone uses AK's, M4's, Deagles and AWPs. Not how the game was meant to be played. Again, like others said, you have to play CS:S or 1.6 competitively to fully understand the nature of the game.

[QUOTE=BuddieBBB;15517272]The main flaw about this game is IMHO the weapon system. Weapons are flawed because it gives you so many choices, but only a third or a quarter of the weapons is actually used, the rest is either; not useful or there is better alternatives. And example would be the deagle, it's more powerful than all other pistols and has a good accuarcy, [b]why would you use any other pistol if the deagle is there?[/b][/QUOTE] because people have to full save sometimes or on a pistol round they don't buy deagles like morons because the USP/Glock are completely fine

What makes points me rage/hate CSS are people constantly whine and rage to other people example: You just killed enemy and straight away when you die or round starts there comes "OMFG YOU FUCKING FAGOOT LUCKER!" another fine example of raging: When you accidentally block someone and he dies then rages you even you said "Fuck shit, sorry my bad" before players death/rage comment but they still wish you to fuck off the server. Second point is of course ELITIST's (Goes same point about "lucky" shots) and those True fucking Pro gamers which means you can't do jack-a-loo shit against them. They just roll over you. What makes me like is multiple source of mods and maps and good servers like Facepunch servers and UKCS.

Counter-Strike is a great game. Although I might think this just 'cause I have played it for nine years... but I still suck, so you can't say its 'cause I'm skilled I like the game. And OP, the arguments you used can be used on EVERY GAME. Seriously. "Repetitive" BULLSHIT! Every game (Multiplayer) is. And aside from that, Ever heard of FPSBanana? Great place with shitloads of maps and skins. And sounds, in the fucking U.S.A. (most of it) silencers are banned for personal use, so how are they to know what it sounds like? And you think they're going to buy some guns, and shoot 'em so they can make accurate sounds? And gameplay, who gives a fuck? That's one of the most opinionated arguments one could come up with. Seriously, you can't do anything to prove the quality of gameplay. And if you're playing a game only cause it looks good (graphics) then why do you bother playing games? They're not meant to look good, they're meant to entertain people. I play on lowest graphics and have fucked up polygons when I'm playing, see me complaining? [QUOTE=Odellus;15502441]It's GoldSrc. You know, the engine that was released in 1998. You're comparing it to a game with an engine first created in 2004. Besides, 1.6 is almost completely different. Source ruined just about every aspect of the original game.[/QUOTE] How is adding ragdolls and a few flying guys ruining the game? [QUOTE=Spekenengles;15507567]It would be fun if you didn't have to wait until one team dies..[/QUOTE] Find a Deathmatch server. [QUOTE=Sheepy!;15517482]While this is sorta true, you have to realize the game was designed to be played in a mr15/$800 format. So you actually do have to decide, if in the pistol round, you want to use your money for nades or armor, or spend that whole $800 on a deagle? It's those sort of decisions that involved the incentive you think is missing. It's just transparent due to the whole 16K start thing. Your probably used to playing on 16K servers, where everyone uses AK's, M4's, Deagles and AWPs. Not how the game was meant to be played. Again, like others said, you have to play CS:S or 1.6 competitively to fully understand the nature of the game.[/QUOTE] I though deagles were $650, and the Dual M9's were $800. Also, I would buy other pistols because they shoot hella faster, especially on scrollbind. (Sort of Off-Topic) GamerzNeeds is a cool community with three CS:S WCS servers.

[QUOTE=TheBuffalo13;15485500]The community is what that killed it.[/QUOTE] I couldn't agree more

[QUOTE=Phsykotik;15519266]Counter-Strike is a great game. Although I might think this just 'cause I have played it for nine years... but I still suck, so you can't say its 'cause I'm skilled I like the game. And OP, the arguments you used can be used on EVERY GAME. Seriously. "Repetitive" BULLSHIT! Every game (Multiplayer) is. And aside from that, Ever heard of FPSBanana? Great place with shitloads of maps and skins. And sounds, in the fucking U.S.A. (most of it) silencers are banned for personal use, so how are they to know what it sounds like? And you think they're going to buy some guns, and shoot 'em so they can make accurate sounds? And gameplay, who gives a fuck? That's one of the most opinionated arguments one could come up with. Seriously, you can't do anything to prove the quality of gameplay. And if you're playing a game only cause it looks good (graphics) then why do you bother playing games? They're not meant to look good, they're meant to entertain people. I play on lowest graphics and have fucked up polygons when I'm playing, see me complaining? How is adding ragdolls and a few flying guys ruining the game? Find a Deathmatch server. I though deagles were $650, and the Dual M9's were $800. Also, I would buy other pistols because they shoot hella faster, especially on scrollbind. (Sort of Off-Topic) GamerzNeeds is a cool community with three CS:S WCS servers.[/QUOTE] Well let's see: 1. The physics: those props are not meant to be there and should have never been added. 2. Grenades were totally ruined because of the new physics. 3. The maps are heavily modified, so many things are out of place it's not even funny. 4. The hitboxes are extremely slow, and they even enlarged the head hitbox. 5. You get free ammo, messing up money managing. 6. The recoil/spread were totally ruined on all of the guns. Source is just w+m1. 7. The penetration system was absolutely and COMPLETELY ruined. 8. The sounds for footsteps are not even close to the originals. I can go on.

[QUOTE=Odellus;15528071] I can go on.[/QUOTE] Then do

[QUOTE=Odellus;15528071] 2. Grenades were totally ruined because of the new physics. [/QUOTE] I think grenades are better in source. Throwing a nade in 1.6 is like throwing a brick, they don't bounce and they don't go very far.

Yeah, I agree.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;15528588]I think grenades are better in source. Throwing a nade in 1.6 is like throwing a brick, they don't bounce and they don't go very far.[/QUOTE] You can throw them the same distance, but that's the point. The mechanics should be the same. They're supposed to be the same game, the point of Source was to just give 1.6 a facelift.

Because it doesn't get up it's own ass with things like Backstorys and the etc.

The biggest problem with CSS is that there's really only one gamemode: Deathmatch. Sure, sure, there's hostages and there's bombs, but honestly, how many times are the games won by planting the bomb or rescuing the hostages? Very, very few. [editline]12:56AM[/editline] And half the servers are crappy ones with sniper battles, low gravity, and all-orange textures.

Most of you guys are just making assumptions, at least so it seems. :v: Sure, many servers have "orange textures," that's because that's what the map is meant for, there are plenty more fucking maps, bro. And there's not one gamemode, just depends if you join a server full of 12 year olds or not.

[QUOTE=Odellus;15528071]Well let's see: 1. The physics: those props are not meant to be there and should have never been added. 2. Grenades were totally ruined because of the new physics. 3. The maps are heavily modified, so many things are out of place it's not even funny. 4. The hitboxes are extremely slow, and they even enlarged the head hitbox. 5. You get free ammo, messing up money managing. 6. The recoil/spread were totally ruined on all of the guns. Source is just w+m1. 7. The penetration system was absolutely and COMPLETELY ruined. 8. The sounds for footsteps are not even close to the originals. I can go on.[/QUOTE] 1. Why the hell not? It's a [b]different[/b] game. 2. Grenades are more realistic, OH NO. 3. Oh no the maps are different in a different game what are we going to do. 4. Deal with it, the gameplay is challenging. 5. Money managing is a shit idea, if you want it so badly go play cs 1.6 6. The spread is slightly different, lets rage. :bang: 7. Oh no now you can shoot through walls like in real life. 8. OMG footsteps are not the same! I wonder if its because its a [b]different game?[/b] Go play CS 1.6 :dogout:

[QUOTE=SkoinksX;15485329]The game is boring, repetitive, simple, repetitive, no team play, shitty graphics, shitty sounds, shitty gameplay and it's repetitive too.[/QUOTE] Everything that you've stated in this list is completely subjective. You don't get it because you're not one of the people that love the game. I find it likely that there is someone somewhere who loves CS and despises a game that you love who can make an equally valid list of reasons why the game that you love sucks. Do you know why? Because every possible adjective that could be evidence for why something "sucks" is subjective; its validity depends on the position of the observer. By indicating your position as though it were fact, you have taken away the security and freedom of the ability of the people to say whatever they want. Nice job breaking it, hero. EDIT: I am unbiased in this post; I personally don't particularly like or dislike CS. My one bias is the negative one I have exhibited towards the promotion of opinion as fact. I may have other biases, but they do not affect this post, as they are impertinent to it. EDIT: And while you're dying, I'll be still alive! ... Wait. Never mind.

[QUOTE=SkoinksX;15485329]Sorry, but it doesn't make ANY sense. The game is boring, repetitive, simple, repetitive, no team play, shitty graphics, shitty sounds, shitty gameplay and it's repetitive too. So... What's the big deal? Oh yeah, rate me "frowny faces" all you want, I really don't give a crap.[/QUOTE] You forgot that the game is like, 97% hackers filled with kids, too.

[QUOTE=Black-Ice;15538828]You forgot that the game is like, 97% hackers filled with kids, too.[/QUOTE] Just because you suck doesn't mean 97% of players are hackers.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;15542473]Just because you suck doesn't mean 97% of players are hackers.[/QUOTE] No, but actually 100% are kids, because technically everyone has a parent, therefore everyone is a kid to someone. And I'd go closer to 3#% is hacker though.

just go to the Steamgamers server. it's up 24/7 alot of people like you and me join in there, they all have mics but don't spam. They are not to serious, people are having a good time there. and different fun maps everytime.

[QUOTE=Agent_Wesker;15538328]1. Why the hell not? It's a [b]different[/b] game. 2. Grenades are more realistic, OH NO. 3. Oh no the maps are different in a different game what are we going to do. 4. Deal with it, the gameplay is challenging. 5. Money managing is a shit idea, if you want it so badly go play cs 1.6 6. The spread is slightly different, lets rage. :bang: 7. Oh no now you can shoot through walls like in real life. 8. OMG footsteps are not the same! I wonder if its because its a [b]different game?[/b] Go play CS 1.6 :dogout:[/QUOTE] 1. It's not a different game retard (may as well be), it was supposed to be a better looking 1.6. 2. Grenades are not realistic, not in 1.6 and not in Source. They should at least be the same. 3. Not even an argument. 4. The gameplay is challenging? In Source? Ha, no. 5. How is money managing a shit idea? It's what the whole fucking game is based around! 6. The spread is not slightly different, it's completely different, and so is the recoil. 7. Have you even played 1.6? It invented the penetration system. Hurr. 8. Not even an argument. It's not supposed to be a different game, but it may as well be. [editline]06:00PM[/editline] Oh and I will play CS, thank you.

*sigh* I smell a flame war...

The only things I don't like about CSS are how short the fuses are on the HE grenades, flashbangs, and that awful RPG Warcraft mod thing.

I love both 1.6 and source , always have , im quite good at both them so its not really a mega challenge for me and i have mega amounts of fun playing. but i tend to get bored of the default maps , i like jailbreak and gungame etc.

[QUOTE=ragawaga;15501129]It's cool , realistic and quite fun , if your on the right gameplay. But i agree it can be quite shitty and repetive on maps like , dust_2 and office etc.[/QUOTE] There's something wrong with this... Hmm, let's take a closer look. [QUOTE=ragawaga;15501129]It's cool , realistic and quite fun , if your on the right gameplay.[/QUOTE] ENHANCE [QUOTE=ragawaga;15501129]It's cool , realistic and quite fun.[/QUOTE] Okay, tighten up those graphics a bit. [QUOTE=ragawaga;15501129]realistic[/QUOTE] THERE it is. In no way is CSS realistic at all. You want realism? Go play Arma, Operation Flashpoint, WWIIOL, or Red Orchestra. CSS is fun for what it is, but if you want realism, you should look elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Pogostick;15547229] In no way is CSS realistic at all. You want realism? Go play Arma, Operation Flashpoint, WWIIOL, or Red Orchestra. CSS is fun for what it is, but if you want realism, you should look elsewhere.[/QUOTE] You have to admit though that CSS is more realistic than Quake, Unreal Tournament, or Team Fortress 2. It's realistic enough that it isn't a pain in the ass to play. It wouldn't be as fun if you had to crawl around on the ground because you got your legs shot out; it's a good mix of arcade and realism.

[QUOTE=Markntosh;15546538]*sigh* I smell a flame war...[/QUOTE] you dam right [QUOTE=Phsykotik;15544501]No, but actually 100% are kids, because technically everyone has a parent, therefore everyone is a kid to someone. And I'd go closer to 3#% is hacker though.[/QUOTE] you know what he meant, if you think you're funny; :dogout: anyway, imo, most server aren't full of kids, sure some of them are full of 'em, just mute them though. you seriously to lazy to? takes 5 seconds. and not all of the "kids" on there have high pitced voices and think they're gangster. and yeah, if you get bored: [QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;15546818]The only things I don't like about CSS are how short the fuses are on the HE grenades, flashbangs, and that awful RPG Warcraft mod thing.[/QUOTE] you got a ton of mods to choose from plus custom maps.

[QUOTE=PvtCupcakes;15547522]You have to admit though that CSS is more realistic than Quake, Unreal Tournament, or Team Fortress 2. It's realistic enough that it isn't a pain in the ass to play. It wouldn't be as fun if you had to crawl around on the ground because you got your legs shot out; it's a good mix of arcade and realism.[/QUOTE] Barely. All that's halfway realistic about it is (the unrealistic in itself) recoil and penetration and the slower movement speeds. And for example, WWIIOL is almost STUPIDLY realistic, but sometimes it brings out the best. There's nothing quite as epic as ambushing a tank with your Antitank rifle while you're bleeding out with a crippled limb, and taking out a few guys with your pistol before you die.

What I don't get is why you guys are arguing about something that has no definitive extremes. I can understand if you like your opinion and don't want it threatened, but people who have opinions that aren't your opinion don't pose a threat to your opinion unless the people are stating their opinions as definitive facts, in which case the only two counterarguments you can make are either that your opinion is superior and correct, whereas theirs, being on the other side of the relationship, is inferior and incorrect (which is bull, because subjective matters are null hypotheses and therefore have no truth values), or this particular argument that their statement is flawed in that it presents an opinion as a fact. All you're really doing here is sitting on opposite sides of a hill, looking outward in the same direction, and arguing whether it's to the left or the right. You're both right, you're both oppressive, and you're both missing something about the oppression you present, and both those somethings make both the oppressions completely invalid. So please just shut up. The more you argue, the more ignorant people who don't understand this principle will be hurt, you know. And the more you'll be hurt when you find an argument that you see as better than your own. Just be quiet and nobody will get hurt. And if you want the people who don't agree with you to be hurt, then I'll leave it up to your opinion to determine whether that's childish, but if you share the common root opinions of most of the human race, your opinion will probably be that it is. You don't want to be childish, do you? I'm not saying that not sharing the common root opinions of most of the human race is a bad thing. I'm just assuming that you do indeed share the common root opinions of most of the human race because chance dictates that you are probably a part of most of the human race as defined by those common root opinions.

[QUOTE=Vault-tech;15485693]CS 1.6 is god, CS:S is shit.[/QUOTE] what he said also, there is teamplay. Ever heard of clans? and why the fuck are we talking about realism in a cs thread