5-hour singleplayer games are the future, right guys? Right! - Games

[QUOTE=Unreliable;28851828] Completely different. I swear you guys, if I ever EVER got big enough in music to sit on my ass all day, I would make a game based off a fast threads thread. [/QUOTE] so no original content, terrible QA and a crappy community sounds good

Unless was made of Hot Chicks or whatever the thread's name is.

I've heard that the story in L.A. Noire will be 30 hours long. :unsmith:

I have 92 hours out of ARMA 2. I haven't touched on the campain.

[QUOTE=proch;28840609]That's why I stick to sandbox games, RPG's or sandbox RPG's. Picture also relevant: [img_thumb]http://img1.uploadscreenshot.com/images/orig/3/8513420297-orig.png[/img_thumb][/QUOTE] I don't see why there can't be both. There are good linear games, and good sandbox games. I seriously do not want every new game to be Fallout New Vegas or GTA.

1st CoD: "Hey guys, I have this cool idea for a shooter!" Now: "Hey guys, lets copy the previous CoD and add 100000 more explosionz and stuff because it sells!" Where is the effort?

I have 300+ hours (probably way more) In morrowind and i still havnt finished the mainquest. And 230 hour into Oblivion.

[QUOTE=Wowza!;28858902]I don't see why there can't be both. There are good linear games, and good sandbox games. I seriously do not want every new game to be Fallout New Vegas or GTA.[/QUOTE] You misunderstood.

[QUOTE=OatmealMan;28857042]Gotta love SPUF fagz bitching about Portal 2's playtime not beeing worth the 50/45 €/$ whilst after leaving their mindless posts, they return to Black Ops and MW2, costing 60 to 75 while being OLD AS FUCK and way shorter[/QUOTE] Or SPUF morons complaining about Portal 2's pricetag, then spending $50 on cosmetic items in TF2.

and so the eleventh great console war of facepunchia hath begun [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=gtaftw;28858807]I have 92 hours out of ARMA 2. I haven't touched on the campain.[/QUOTE] I have 7.9 hours on ARMA2 and 25.3 hours on OA (combined operations) and I haven't touched the campaign OR multiplayer. Just the editor. [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] assassin's creed brotherhood had a fairly good idea of how to be a decent game though

[QUOTE=taipan;28859781]I have 300+ hours (probably way more) In morrowind and i still havnt finished the mainquest. And 230 hour into Oblivion.[/QUOTE] Following the main quest in Oblivion is hard. You get more excited to do the other side-quests. Especially the Dark Brotherhood ones.

[QUOTE=SubjectX10;28859710]1st CoD: "Hey guys, I have this cool idea for a shooter!" Now: "Hey guys, lets copy the previous CoD and add 100000 more explosionz and stuff because it sells!" Where is the effort?[/QUOTE] The effort is in creating new weapons (models, firing sounds, animations), characters (models, animations, voices, motion capture work), story (writing of and cutscenes for), level design for the campaign, level design for the multiplayer, game balance, networking, and a whole list of other things. I won't say that the work that goes into CoD is significantly more than any other AAA title releasing today, but to say there is no effort is incredibly disingenuous, and pretty disrespectful to the artists and programmers who do put their heart and soul into a product.

I HATE EVERYONE who doesn't share my gaming tastes because i'm an annoying teenager

Weren't we still complaining about Halo just a year ago? It seems like we just suddenly went from hating Halo to COD at a very specific point last year. What's next, people are going to start hating games for being too much like BF3 when that comes out and it becomes the go-to game for the College Brosephs and High-School-High-Pitched-Voiced-Gamers? I think the problem you guys have is that you think every game has to suit [I]your[/I] tastes, not someone else's. Leave COD to the Brosephuses and look for the games YOU want. Maybe FPSes aren't for you. I mean, if you want longevity, you're certainly not going to find it in a straight-up FPS. You never did and you never will. I mean, even the original Doom was only a day or two's worth of gametime (given you spend 5-8 hours a day playing), and then what? Sure, there were all sorts of side-passages and shit, but in the end, you'll still have memorized every corner of every map in the game within a week or two. If you want a first person experience and you want longevity, look for a crossbreed FPS/RPG or FPS/Anything Else. There are plenty of those to choose from, but you're not looking in the right place. That may or may not be the other problem you're having: maybe because you feel like all FPS games are becoming the same, you haven't noticed the FPS crossbreeds like Mirrors Edge or Metroid Prime (FPS/Platformer), or maybe STALKER (FPS/RPG). Those are just the well-known examples, there are many more that you just haven't noticed yet. ... and it's at this point where I forgot what my original point was, but I'm sure if you read this you'll see what's left of it...

[QUOTE=Xenomoose;28863862]Weren't we still complaining about Halo just a year ago? It seems like we just suddenly went from hating Halo to COD at a very specific point last year. What's next, people are going to start hating games for being too much like BF3 when that comes out and it becomes the go-to game for the College Brosephs and High-School-High-Pitched-Voiced-Gamers? I think the problem you guys have is that you think every game has to suit [I]your[/I] tastes, not someone else's. Leave COD to the Brosephuses and look for the games YOU want. Maybe FPSes aren't for you. I mean, if you want longevity, you're certainly not going to find it in a straight-up FPS. You never did and you never will. I mean, even the original Doom was only a day or two's worth of gametime, and then what? Sure, there were all sorts of side-passages and shit, but in the end, you'll still have memorized every corner of every map in the game within a week or two. If you want a first person experience and you want longevity, look for a crossbreed FPS/RPG or FPS/Anything Else. There are plenty of those to choose from, but you're not looking in the right place. That may or may not be the other problem you're having: maybe because you feel like all FPS games are becoming the same, you haven't noticed the FPS crossbreeds like Mirrors Edge or Metroid Prime (FPS/Platformer), or maybe STALKER (FPS/RPG). Those are just the well-known examples, there are many more that you just haven't noticed yet. ... and it's at this point where I forgot what my original point was, but I'm sure if you read this you'll see what's left of it...[/QUOTE] It's internet trending, people can't help but be swayed by the ruling opinion of the day. and otherwise you made the exact points i'd like to make.

the biggest problem is nostalgia, and as you get older you start hating things because they never were as good as they were when you were younger because you were fucking younger of course DOOM is gonna feel like the most amazing game of all time because in our youth that was it (i'm a bit older than most of you but i still feel the same way) you guys should just get used to the fact that you aren't gonna like games that much anymore, i've already accepted that [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] it's like trying to like toys of today, you aren't going to understand them, yet if someone gave you a toy that was popular in 1993 you'll probably flip your shit ultimately games are still toys, they never really were as life changing as music books or films ever were

[QUOTE=thisispain;28863969]the biggest problem is nostalgia, and as you get older you start hating things because they never were as good as they were when you were younger because you were fucking younger of course DOOM is gonna feel like the most amazing game of all time because in our youth that was it (i'm a bit older than most of you but i still feel the same way) you guys should just get used to the fact that you aren't gonna like games that much anymore, i've already accepted that [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] it's like trying to like toys of today, you aren't going to understand them, yet if someone gave you a toy that was popular in 1993 you'll probably flip your shit ultimately games are still toys, they never really were as life changing as music books or films ever were[/QUOTE] I loved games of "yesteryear", the games of our childhood Yet somehow, I'm still thouroughly enjoying this generation of games, there's so many gems and beautiful games(gameplay wise) coming out And nostalgia is such a drain and clouds any sort of judgement you can make. And if a film or a book or music can be life changing, so can games. It just depends to who.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28864060]I loved games of "yesteryear", the games of our childhood Yet somehow, I'm still thouroughly enjoying this generation of games, there's so many gems and beautiful games(gameplay wise) coming out And nostalgia is such a drain and clouds any sort of judgement you can make. And if a film or a book or music can be life changing, so can games. It just depends to who.[/QUOTE] I may be too young for nostalgia (I dunno, is 19 going-on 20 really young anymore?), but I feel like most of the games I've played in my life have been about equal in enjoyment. I've had as much fun playing Sonic the Hedgehog for Sega Genesis when I was a wee lad as I've had playing Mass Effect 2 last year as I've had playing Crysis 2 just a few days ago as I probably will have once Skyrim comes out. Different genres, all, but still holding the same amount of fun, which is a lot.

[QUOTE=Xenomoose;28863862]Weren't we still complaining about Halo just a year ago? It seems like we just suddenly went from hating Halo to COD at a very specific point last year. What's next, people are going to start hating games for being too much like BF3 when that comes out and it becomes the go-to game for the College Brosephs and High-School-High-Pitched-Voiced-Gamers?[/QUOTE] Yup. Before Activision it was EA. Before CoD it was Halo. Before World of Warcraft it was Everquest. And yeah nostalgia is a helluva thing. I still laugh when people insist on calling CoD4 the last "good" CoD when the series has barely changed since CoD1.

[QUOTE=Xenomoose;28864155]I may be too young for nostalgia (I dunno, is 19 going-on 20 really young anymore?), but I feel like most of the games I've played in my life have been about equal in enjoyment. I've had as much fun playing Sonic the Hedgehog for Sega Genesis when I was a wee lad as I've had playing Mass Effect 2 last year as I've had playing Crysis 2 just a few days ago as I probably will have once Skyrim comes out. Different genres, all, but still holding the same amount of fun, which is a lot.[/QUOTE] We're just about the same age and I feel the exact same way about video games as you do, and I think nostalgia can apply to anyone really, it's just a question of realizing that?

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;28864060]I loved games of "yesteryear", the games of our childhood Yet somehow, I'm still thouroughly enjoying this generation of games, there's so many gems and beautiful games(gameplay wise) coming out And nostalgia is such a drain and clouds any sort of judgement you can make. And if a film or a book or music can be life changing, so can games. It just depends to who.[/QUOTE] yeah just be an adult and chill out, that's what you guys should do but i just don't find a lot of games trying to be super ambitious [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] ambitious as in "WE'RE GONNA SOLVE WORLD HUNGER WITH OUR GAMES" [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Xenomoose;28864155](I dunno, is 19 going-on 20 really young anymore?)[/QUOTE] of course it s once you turn 60 you can start claiming you aren't young anymore, but i probably won't cuz i'm insane

I think the problem is that games are getting way too casual or something.

[QUOTE=thisispain;28864270]yeah just be an adult and chill out, that's what you guys should do but i just don't find a lot of games trying to be super ambitious [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] ambitious as in "WE'RE GONNA SOLVE WORLD HUNGER WITH OUR GAMES" [editline]28th March 2011[/editline] of course it s once you turn 60 you can start claiming you aren't young anymore, but i probably won't cuz i'm insane[/QUOTE] well that's a different form of ambition and I can't really argue with that at all :P. but yes, people should in general, just grow the fuck up. And for people who are disappointed with the games industry and what not, my question is, if you're a passionate gamer and you're part of the "digital age", why not try and join the industry and help guide it where you want one day rather than just saying how great things were back in the fucking day

[QUOTE=gsp1995;28864343]I think the problem is that games are getting way too casual or something.[/QUOTE] Gee, totally never heard that one before.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;28864228]Yup. Before Activision it was EA.[/QUOTE] So.... uhh and your point is ?

[QUOTE=gsp1995;28864343]I think the problem is that games are getting way too casual or something.[/QUOTE] Casual and Hardcore are too vague to really be applied to any game. I mean, one person might call CoD "casual", but there are people who consider themselves "hardcore" players of the game, striving to be at the top of the leaderboards and such.

[QUOTE=FuzzyPoop;28864470]So.... uhh and your point is ?[/QUOTE] People will always find something different to shit on, something different to jizz themselves over. Nostalgia is a load of horseshit.

[QUOTE=Xenomoose;28864514]Casual and Hardcore are too vague to really be applied to any game. I mean, one person might call CoD "casual", but there are people who consider themselves "hardcore" players of the game, striving to be at the top of the leaderboards and such.[/QUOTE] The only time you apply casual or hardcore is to the actual gamer him/herself.

if you didn't think doom was aiming to be casual, you are lying to yourself one of the things id was desperately striving for was making sure everyone could play DOOM if every game strove to be like ArmA2 the industry would be dead

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;28864535]People will always find something different to shit on, something different to jizz themselves over. Nostalgia is a load of horseshit.[/QUOTE] What ? Naturally, something worse will always pop up, i still don't see your point. EA is still bad though activision is much worse.