I don't see the problem here.
Games for Windows LIVE - Yes, it's shit, we all know. Install it, activate the game, then uninstall it. I believe games can still be played without GFWL.
SecuROM - I think we all know a NO-CD crack will be out in a day to bypass this. (Not hinting at piracy here, since unfortunatly, these cracks are necessary for people who legally purchaced the game to enjoy it).
15 machine install limit - Again, cracks.
[QUOTE=Doug52392;19761526]I don't see the problem here.
Games for Windows LIVE - Yes, it's shit, we all know. Install it, activate the game, then uninstall it. I believe games can still be played without GFWL.
SecuROM - I think we all know a NO-CD crack will be out in a day to bypass this. (Not hinting at piracy here, since unfortunatly, these cracks are necessary for people who legally purchaced the game to enjoy it).
15 machine install limit - Again, cracks.[/QUOTE]
Your right for the most part but you still need GFWL to play single player and multiplayer.
[QUOTE=Doug52392;19761526]I don't see the problem here.
Games for Windows LIVE - Yes, it's shit, we all know. Install it, activate the game, then uninstall it. I believe games can still be played without GFWL.
SecuROM - I think we all know a NO-CD crack will be out in a day to bypass this. (Not hinting at piracy here, since unfortunatly, these cracks are necessary for people who legally purchaced the game to enjoy it).
15 machine install limit - Again, cracks.[/QUOTE]
But why are we required to do all this to play a game the way it was meant to be played? Why devs shit on us so much?
I already use Games for Windows for GTA IV, so now I'll have another game to use it for.
I just got a new PC so I don't think the install limit will be much of a problem, although it does make me paranoid.
It's not like people won't find a way to crack it. It just people more motivation to not play it, or pirate it.
[QUOTE=johanz;19761094]Steam version has all the same drm[/QUOTE]
Am I reading this wrong then?
[QUOTE=Droogie;19758667][url]http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=597096&postcount=1[/url]
Dunno if already posted.[/QUOTE]
The way it's stated sounds like only the retail version has SecuROM included, Steam will not have it. That still leaves GFWL, but no download limit. Correct me if I am mistaken though.
[QUOTE=Jabberwock09;19761853]Am I reading this wrong then?
The way it's stated sounds like only the retail version has SecuROM included, Steam will not have it. That still leaves GFWL, but no download limit. Correct me if I am mistaken though.[/QUOTE]
Oh, maybe you're right then
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;19760117]They really need to make an entirely new version of GFWL. And while they're at it, maybe an instant messaging function would be a good addition...[/QUOTE]
IM for GFWL is pretty much Live Messenger, I believe...
[QUOTE=Appox;19752083]It's a shame they don't think Steam alone is good enough.[/QUOTE]
Hey I know! Why don't we put DRM on a game which is sold on a system which include it's own DRM!
Also , how the hell will you buy the game again if you run out of installs from steam?
[QUOTE=Rammaster;19761537]Your right for the most part but you still need GFWL to play single player and multiplayer.[/QUOTE]
Not for single player.
Fuck this game then, I'll spend the money on Mass Effect 2 instead.
I read the title as "Bioshock 2: Drowning in DMM" and got really fucking excited. Then I opened the thread and got sad.
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;19762954]Not for single player.[/QUOTE]
They said you need GFWL to save game
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[QUOTE=rakkar;19762674]IM for GFWL is pretty much Live Messenger, I believe...[/QUOTE]
Not even close
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;19762954]Not for single player.[/QUOTE]
You still need to download GWFL and register your game with it, albeit only on first install.
[QUOTE=MisterMooth;19760598][IMG_thumb]http://www.cubeupload.com/files/d6e200capture.png[/IMG_thumb][/QUOTE]
I like how only FUCKBALLS, DICKFUCK and ASSFUCK are underlined by spellcheck :v:
[QUOTE=windwakr;19752999]
And here come the deserved boxes for defending Gayshit For Windows Dumbasses....
[/QUOTE]
Indeed.
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;19763563]You still need to download GWFL and register your game with it, albeit only on first install.[/QUOTE]
Oh no! The horror! :rolleyes:
I don't have any consoles, so that's a shame. I wasn't exactly raving over it anyway, but now they can just fuck off.
I won't be getting it even more now.
I have like 0 interest in this game. lol
SecuROM? Right fuck that then - I'm never buying this on disc. The last SecuROM game I bought was [i]Mirror's Edge[/i] and it rendered my copy of [i]Medieval II: Total War[/i] unplayable.
I don't get why people bitch about DRM. I don't see anything wrong with it.
[QUOTE=raviool;19764143]Relevant
[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/21kct9u.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Haha i actually laughed at that.
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[QUOTE=he-did-it-->;19765000]I don't get why people bitch about DRM. I don't see anything wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
I guess people want freedom on what they pay for and not forced to download and limit themselves.
[QUOTE=he-did-it-->;19765000]I don't get why people bitch about DRM. I don't see anything wrong with it.[/QUOTE]
Most forms of DRM punishes the legit customer while the pirate still gets better access to the game, without rootkits or install limits. They key to combating piracy is to provide better service than what pirated versions can offer, DRM like SecuROM or Tages does the exact opposite by making the game less available and more of a hassle to use. Steam on the other hand is an excellent example of a well-implemented DRM that benefits the customers by giving better availability (mostly), good support and other features that the pirates won't have.
Also, read above on how install limits kills the used-game market.
This is gonna be next most pirated game
[QUOTE=Im Crimson;19765351]Most forms of DRM punishes the legit customer while the pirate still gets better access to the game, without rootkits or install limits. They key to combating piracy is to provide better service than what pirated versions can offer, DRM like SecuROM or Tages does the exact opposite by making the game less available and more of a hassle to use. Steam on the other hand is an excellent example of a well-implemented DRM that benefits the customers by giving better availability (mostly), good support and other features that the pirates won't have.
Also, read above on how install limits kills the used-game market.[/QUOTE]
I have many DRM enabled games on disk and I have never experienced a problem.
[QUOTE=werner;19765524]This is gonna be next most pirated game[/QUOTE]
By people who probably intended to buy it along with those who didn't. :bravo: 2k
[QUOTE=he-did-it-->;19765761]I have many DRM enabled games on disk and I have never experienced a problem.[/QUOTE]
Well a lot of people do. And if this circus doesn't stop you will experience problems in the future as the DRM becomes increasingly invasive.
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Soon enough you will need to use a fingerprint scanner to start your favorite game just to rule out the possibility of your friend trying it when he hasn't paid for a copy.
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