Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition(360,PS3,PC)v3 - Dark Magic is perfectly balanced - Games

[QUOTE=Flip pl;39303659]call him names maybe hell suicide[/QUOTE] i called him a poopyhead but he didnt kill himself

[QUOTE=Bathtub;39303669]i called him a poopyhead but he didnt kill himself[/QUOTE] Well you're fucked.

So, uh, I made a video version of that Four Kings thing I made the other day in response to the Ornstein and Smough remix. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXtq4ycWiwI[/media] EDIT: Auuuughhhh why is Pewdiepie in the related videos what did I do to deserve this

[QUOTE=Bathtub;39303526]I am getting my ass whooped in Anor Londo. I can't even make it to Biggy and Smalls because the silver knights, titanite demon, and those bigass knights are destroying me. Any suggestions? I'm using a +5 Quelaag, pyromancy, and a crest shield.[/QUOTE] You can just run past the 2 giant knights in front of O&S. You just need to keep blocking the silverknights until they stab, but don't get to close or they'll do a shield bash and deplete your stamina. I never really had trouble with the titanite demon, so I don't know about that. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] Also, I'm 66 now and I really want to try out the furysword, but is it still worth it?

[QUOTE=rider695;39303818]You can just run past the 2 giant knights in front of O&S. You just need to keep blocking the silverknights until they stab, but don't get to close or they'll do a shield bash and deplete your stamina. I never really had trouble with the titanite demon, so I don't know about that. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] Also, I'm 66 now and I really want to try out the furysword, but is it still worth it?[/QUOTE] It really depends on if you like a curvesword moveset. I love the sword, it's badass looking and really effective against enemies that are vulnreble to fire and even useful to those who aren't. It can get kinda annoying to get a curvesword to +10 but its not hard if you already have the required materials.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;39303669]i called him a poopyhead but he didnt kill himself[/QUOTE] He has no head, he can't hear you. You must thump the floor in morse code.

I'm playing NG+ and I feel like I messed up my Knight character. Pretty close amount of endurance,vitality while strength is about 50. I'm almost level 100, do you guys think I should make a new character? Any fun character ideas? That are viable in PVP? I would PVP against agility characters and I'd go, damn I wish I could roll like that. Is it something worth getting into? I'm going to miss my gigantic health pool :(

[QUOTE=salty peanut v2;39299340][sp]there's two endings and you picked the bad one[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Linking the fire is the bad ending? I mean I just expected some kind of cutscene like the intro at least or something. Also a boss that wasn't just 30 seconds parry bait. Instead it was a 30 sec animation of linking the fire then suddenly I'm on credits lol.[/sp]

Don't make the Moonlight butterfly horn, ever. Not even once.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;39303526]I am getting my ass whooped in Anor Londo. I can't even make it to Biggy and Smalls because the silver knights, titanite demon, and those bigass knights are destroying me. Any suggestions? I'm using a +5 Quelaag, pyromancy, and a crest shield.[/QUOTE] titinite demon is weak to lightning. Like, REALLY weak to it Silver knights are really easy to parry The big guys miss often, and you can probably just ignore them and go straight to boss door

[QUOTE=KorJax;39304252][sp]Linking the fire is the bad ending? I mean I just expected some kind of cutscene like the intro at least or something. Also a boss that wasn't just 30 seconds parry bait. Instead it was a 30 sec animation of linking the fire then suddenly I'm on credits lol.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]If you link the fire, the curse of the undead continues and more humans will be branded with the darksign upon death. In a hundred or so years, you'll be in Gwyn's exact position and another random undead will travel to Lordran to come kill YOU and then either decide to let the fire go out, or let the cycle continue again. If it keeps going exponentially, eventually the whole world will be cursed or dead, and after a couple hundred years of this there will be nothing left but hollows. So, yeah, linking the fire is kind of worse than just letting it go out.[/sp]

[QUOTE=ArchXeno;39304281]Don't make the Moonlight butterfly horn, ever. Not even once.[/QUOTE] The moonlight butterfly's soul is useless, everything you can make out of it is arse. But atleast the crystal ring shield is actually cool. Fucking shooting pure DBZ energy out of a damn shield, fuck yeah.

[QUOTE=KorJax;39304252][sp]Linking the fire is the bad ending? I mean I just expected some kind of cutscene like the intro at least or something. Also a boss that wasn't just 30 seconds parry bait. Instead it was a 30 sec animation of linking the fire then suddenly I'm on credits lol.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]Fire is where the gods derive their power. The Lord Souls came from fire, Gwyn is the Lord of Sunlight (before he withered to Lord of Cinder anyway). Humanity is darkness, by bringing about an age of darkness you are weakening the gods and allowing man to take their place.[/sp] I find it quite interesting that in Dark Souls the darkness is actually the stronger force. Humanity fully heals you, no matter how damaged you are, you become luckier and more resistant to damage the more humanity you have. Bonfires, which heal you and fill estus flasks, are fuelled by humanity. Humanity spirits are highly damaging and all they have to do is touch you. Compared to the darkness fire is pretty unimpressive. Especially when you can get armour that can mostly negate fire damage but dark magic is some of the most dangerous magic in the game, and difficult to protect yourself from.

Fuck yes. [t]http://i.imgur.com/AVX1cLi.jpg[/t] I should probably move on with my life now.

Whats the better option, cursed or noncursed Artorias greatsword?

[QUOTE=Bathtub;39304601]Whats the better option, cursed or noncursed Artorias greatsword?[/QUOTE] Non-cursed.

[QUOTE=Bathtub;39304601]Whats the better option, cursed or noncursed Artorias greatsword?[/QUOTE] From what I've heard/read, the normal one because of better scaling. But, I did hear that Arty's sword needed alot of high stats to be really effective, which could screw up someone's build. dammit

[QUOTE=peterson;39304217]I'm playing NG+ and I feel like I messed up my Knight character. Pretty close amount of endurance,vitality while strength is about 50. I'm almost level 100, do you guys think I should make a new character? Any fun character ideas? That are viable in PVP? I would PVP against agility characters and I'd go, damn I wish I could roll like that. Is it something worth getting into? I'm going to miss my gigantic health pool :([/QUOTE]With that strength, you should use a weapon with great str scaling like the demon's greataxe and a faster weapon as a backup. Works pretty well for me.

[QUOTE=Doomish;39304328][sp]If you link the fire, the curse of the undead continues and more humans will be branded with the darksign upon death. In a hundred or so years, you'll be in Gwyn's exact position and another random undead will travel to Lordran to come kill YOU and then either decide to let the fire go out, or let the cycle continue again. If it keeps going exponentially, eventually the whole world will be cursed or dead, and after a couple hundred years of this there will be nothing left but hollows. So, yeah, linking the fire is kind of worse than just letting it go out.[/sp][/QUOTE] [sp]I was under the impression that the age of darkness was literally quite that - there are no gods nor men. You become a dark lord, but your rule is pretty much over nothing. Especially since the gods and men are linked, even if the man is a "dark soul" it is still quite literally considered a lord soul of sorts, just split between all men. The curse of the undead only starts to happen when the fires dim. Yes you continue the cycle but the curse is effectively lifted when you link the fire, until your fire begins to dim again. In essence you delay the apocolypse. Also it would be more or less thousands of years not a hundred, as thats about how long it took for the fire to dim. Of course the upside of the age of darkness ending is that you technically keep the world going how it should have - so men/gods/etc pretty much go but whatever was naturally supposed to come after it can now begin.[/sp]

[QUOTE=Viento;39304653]From what I've heard/read, the normal one because of better scaling. But, I did hear that Arty's sword needed alot of high stats to be really effective, which could screw up someone's build. dammit[/QUOTE] Does it scale with str or dex? I imagine it would be str but you never know

[QUOTE=KorJax;39304718][sp]I was under the impression that the age of darkness was literally quite that - there are no gods nor men. You become a dark lord, but your rule is pretty much over nothing. Especially since the gods and men are linked, even if the man is a "dark soul" it is still quite literally considered a lord soul of sorts, just split between all men. The curse of the undead only starts to happen when the fires dim. Yes you continue the cycle but the curse is effectively lifted when you link the fire, until your fire begins to dim again. In essence you delay the apocolypse. Also it would be more or less thousands of years not a hundred, as thats about how long it took for the fire to dim. Of course the upside of the age of darkness ending is that you technically keep the world going how it should have - so men/gods/etc pretty much go but whatever was naturally supposed to come after it can now begin.[/sp][/QUOTE] Gods and men are hardly linked, they came from different sources altogether. The gods are more powerful individually, but with the fire waning they are losing their power to the point where a single undead can walk into Gwyndolyn's front door and smack the shit out of him. In DS, humanity and darkness are linked. They came from the Dark Soul (this is why humanity is black and various boss souls/lord souls are all golden) and "age of dark" doesn't mean literal darkness over the entire world, it means the age of humanity. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Bathtub;39304825]Does it scale with str or dex? I imagine it would be str but you never know[/QUOTE] It requires 24 str, 18 dex, 20 int and 20 faith. It scales with a C rating in str and dex, and a B rating with int and faith.

[QUOTE=dogmachines;39304828]Gods and men are hardly linked, they came from different sources altogether. The gods are more powerful individually, but with the fire waning they are losing their power to the point where a single undead can walk into Gwyndolyn's front door and smack the shit out of him. In DS, humanity and darkness are linked. They came from the Dark Soul (this is why humanity is black and various boss souls/lord souls are all golden) and "age of dark" doesn't mean literal darkness over the entire world, it means the age of humanity. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] It requires 24 str, 18 dex, 20 int and 20 faith. It scales with a C rating in str and dex, and a B rating with int and faith.[/QUOTE] I'm a dex/endurance build so its not for me. Should I bother making the shield or should I just eat Sifs soul?

The shield is amazing. It has 88 stability and stays at that even when upgraded, so you get insane stability with no upgrades necessary. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] Assuming you have 34 str.

[QUOTE=dogmachines;39304918]The shield is amazing. It has 88 stability and stays at that even when upgraded, so you get insane stability with no upgrades necessary. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] Assuming you have 34 str.[/QUOTE] Eating Sifs soul it is [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] Also, is a black knight halberd worth upgrading?

BK weapons are worth upgrading. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] Though that's assuming you're willing to get your strength up, the lowest strength requirement for a BK weapon is 20, the Halberd requires 32.

[QUOTE=dogmachines;39304828]Gods and men are hardly linked, they came from different sources altogether. The gods are more powerful individually, but with the fire waning they are losing their power to the point where a single undead can walk into Gwyndolyn's front door and smack the shit out of him. In DS, humanity and darkness are linked. They came from the Dark Soul (this is why humanity is black and various boss souls/lord souls are all golden) and "age of dark" doesn't mean literal darkness over the entire world, it means the age of humanity.[/QUOTE] What I don't understand is this: if you choose to Link it, where the hell is the next guy going to get the souls to do it again if he wants to? Didn't you already take all the most powerful souls and use them to do it in the first place? I'm assuming the Age of Fire is doomed regardless, because the only way you could satiate the first flame is by mass sacrifice or some shit.

I need some advice for invading. Here are my specs: SL 116 vit 60 att 12 end 40 str 34 dex 22 res 12 int 10 fth 9 I used furysword and artorias greatshield and silver knight shield (for parrying) I recently rebought Gold and wanted to get started on invading. No victories so far. Had no trouble on singleplayer with such build. Should I create another character?

[QUOTE=dogmachines;39304828]Gods and men are hardly linked, they came from different sources altogether. The gods are more powerful individually, but with the fire waning they are losing their power to the point where a single undead can walk into Gwyndolyn's front door and smack the shit out of him. In DS, humanity and darkness are linked. They came from the Dark Soul (this is why humanity is black and various boss souls/lord souls are all golden) and "age of dark" doesn't mean literal darkness over the entire world, it means the age of humanity. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] It requires 24 str, 18 dex, 20 int and 20 faith. It scales with a C rating in str and dex, and a B rating with int and faith.[/QUOTE] Got that info based on the backstory of the wiki's is all. They state that the age of dark isn't continuing with man, becuase you doom mankind and the gods. Age of fire keeps the status quo going, but cures the curse until your fire starts to wane again. Also it keeps the bonfires working, which link and hold the world together. Also the only reason why you needed all the lord souls was because Gwyn locked himself away in the kiln with their souls with the lord vessel, or something. I.E. Link the fire: [quote]Linking the fire restarts the age of fire (this time fueled by the player's soul). Undead sacrifices would end for the duration of the age of fire and eventually begin again when your flames start to fade. Gods would also have their powers and lead mortals in their lives as has been since the dragons were overthrown. The player prolongs life, but the cycle continues. [/quote] Dark Lord: [quote]The player now rules the world as the Dark Lord while the other gods have fallen. Without fire, the world would gradually wither and desolate; the chosen undead would rule the slowly dying world.[/quote] It seems like the world, as it is in the game relies on the fires to sustain itself. Without the fires the apocolypse literally happens and the world pretty much ends, but allows the next, "natural" stage of whatever the world would become to happen (perhaps the dragons coming back). [url]http://darksouls.wikidot.com/ending[/url]

Pretty much everything to do with the ending is pure speculation, the world withering isn't alluded to anywhere in the game. The only person that paints letting the fire go out is Frampt, who lies to your face. Kaathe refers to the Age of Dark as the Age of Man, and while he could be seen as suspect as well, he doesn't try to play you like a violin the way Frampt and Gwyndolyn do.

The Dark Souls wikidot is filled with fan conjecture. You're better off using [url]http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/[/url] instead, they don't theorise over the meaning of the story, they just present quotes and item descriptions. [editline]21st January 2013[/editline] I mean come on: [quote=wikidot]The player's actions have plunged the world even further into chaos, as those who might have saved it are dead, gone, or Hollow. In the end, the player has become the "Dark Lord", ruler of the world, but with the link between the bonfires, the only things holding the world together, fading, there is little left to rule over.[/quote] There's nothing in the lore that says the world will end when the age of dark comes around, infact there's plenty that says it's a natural part of the world. There's also nothing indicating any of the gods had any intention of "saving" the world, just that they wanted to preserve the age of fire. I mean considering how much more peaceful Anor Londo is once Gwyndolin is gone it's not hard to imagine the world might be better of with the Age of Man.