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[QUOTE=yawmwen;38809523]how does transferring lands into other people's realms work? like i married a son(not the heir) to some duchess in the hre who held like 3 duchies, and then when she died their kid(part of my dynasty) decided to remain a part of the hre, then he rebelled and became independent. is there something i'm missing or was that like a fluke?[/QUOTE] I think I got it figured out. If you don't have a title and you inherit, your liege becomes the liege of the previous title owner. It makes sure you can't just invite an heir to your court and manage to gain land just because you had him at the right place and time. Since the kid's mother had the Emperor as his liege, he gained him as a liege too regardless of his dynasty. If someone inherits a title when they already have one, that's when land gets shifted around. If they are a count and inherit a Duchy in your realm, that Duchy becomes theirs and consequently goes to their old liege's land. It means that if there's one heir for two landed parents, it might be better to kill your vassal parent before the other one dies. It can also result in some strange situations. That's what happened with [url=http://i.imgur.com/KyjTU.jpg]England and Portugal here[/url], a Duke was reasonably powerful and had good lands in England. When he gained the title of King of Portugal, he was on the same ranking as the King-Bishop of England and became independent taking all the lands in England he held with him. It may De Jure belong to England, but due to Vassals and Chivalrous garbage, it belongs to Portugal.

What happens when the parents are differing ranks? i.e. duchess mother, count father, who becomes the liege if 1 kid can inherit? and if they're the same rank?

[QUOTE=DainBramageStudios;38808474][t]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/884094379064174245/29BBAEE42B9B3BDE32C7FC90BC4EA40DDFCFE0E3/?.jpg[/t] i have pretty borders[/QUOTE] Dat Ireland [sp]Posting on /gsg/? Traitor![/sp]

[QUOTE=scout1;38809750]What happens when the parents are differing ranks? i.e. duchess mother, count father, who becomes the liege if 1 kid can inherit? and if they're the same rank?[/QUOTE] i know that same rank won't go into your realm. if you're a king and a vassal inherits a kingdom then the vassal will become independent.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38810102]i know that same rank won't go into your realm. if you're a king and a vassal inherits a kingdom then the vassal will become independent.[/QUOTE] I mean let's say there's two kinds (england/scotland). Two of their dukes marry and pop out a kid. Where the hell do those two duchies go?

[QUOTE=scout1;38809750]What happens when the parents are differing ranks? i.e. duchess mother, count father, who becomes the liege if 1 kid can inherit? and if they're the same rank?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=scout1;38810141]I mean let's say there's two kinds (england/scotland). Two of their dukes marry and pop out a kid. Where the hell do those two duchies go?[/QUOTE] It's all about which title they inherit first. If the Scottish parent dies and they inherit the Scottish Duchy first, the English Duchy will go under Scottish control once the English parent dies. If they get the Dukedom first and the County second, not much will change and like everything, their primary title will be one among the highest ranking titles they have. If they inherit the County such as Argyll first and are under another Duke like Duke of the Isles rather than the King of Scotland directly, Duke of the Isles will lose Argyll from under his control but Argyll, along with the new Duchy will still be under the King of Scotland.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;38810653]It's all about which title they inherit first. If the Scottish parent dies and they inherit the Scottish Duchy first, the English Duchy will go under Scottish control once the English parent dies. If they get the Dukedom first and the County second, not much will change and like everything, their primary title will be one among the highest ranking titles they have. If they inherit the County such as Argyll first and are under another Duke like Duke of the Isles rather than the King of Scotland directly, Duke of the Isles will lose Argyll from under his control but Argyll, along with the new Duchy will still be under the King of Scotland.[/QUOTE] OK sweet Those duke titles that I confiscate are gonna be put to good use putting my uncles into marriages with female (soon-to-be) heirs with assassination plots everywhere

A pretty cheap method is to find courtiers who are heirs to decent estates, bribe them to come to your court and then give them a shitty barony or something. You'll be their liege and once they inherit, you'll get all that territory. It can be tricky to find them sometimes, but it is by far the easiest way to gain land, as long as you can hold it afterwards.

[QUOTE=Devodiere;38810955]A pretty cheap method is to find courtiers who are heirs to decent estates, bribe them to come to your court and then give them a shitty barony or something. You'll be their liege and once they inherit, you'll get all that territory. It can be tricky to find them sometimes, but it is by far the easiest way to gain land, as long as you can hold it afterwards.[/QUOTE] Does mean they'll be the wrong culture, though.

maybe i'm just horrible at diplomacy or something but i can never get anyone to join my plots and when i do just regularly try to assassinate people i have too low a success rate and too high a discovery rate

[QUOTE=Pedro the Fuzzy;38811584]maybe i'm just horrible at diplomacy or something but i can never get anyone to join my plots and when i do just regularly try to assassinate people i have too low a success rate and too high a discovery rate[/QUOTE] use spy networks for assassination. as long as success rate is higher than discovery rate you have a decent chance to succeed if you just keep attempting.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38811661]use spy networks for assassination. as long as success rate is higher than discovery rate you have a decent chance to succeed if you just keep attempting.[/QUOTE] The succeed chance is total bullshit though. 47% chance to succeed, 12% chance to get caught. Out of 10 tries, 2 successes, caught 5 times.

[QUOTE=scout1;38811983]The succeed chance is total bullshit though. 47% chance to succeed, 12% chance to get caught. Out of 10 tries, 2 successes, caught 5 times.[/QUOTE] i dont think i had that problem at all. i mean i've gone on assassination sprees to eliminate who lines of succession to allow my characters to inherit shit and as long as the chance of success is higher than chance of discovery it seems to work almost every time. [editline]13th December 2012[/editline] or not work every time, but i hardly get discovered

anyone else using the prince and the thane mod for CK2? are the save times supposed to be like 3 minutes long?

[QUOTE=larrylumpy;38812444]anyone else using the prince and the thane mod for CK2? are the save times supposed to be like 3 minutes long?[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that would be normal with all the added stuff bulking up the save

[IMG]http://puu.sh/1AwNI[/IMG] this is what happens when you have a socialist csa "the slaves arent worthy people but minorities are"

[QUOTE=lifehole;38817599][IMG]http://puu.sh/1AwNI[/IMG] this is what happens when you have a socialist csa "the slaves arent worthy people but minorities are"[/QUOTE] What mod is that?

[QUOTE=Te Great Skeeve;38817615]What mod is that?[/QUOTE] APD/A Pop Divided, 1.4 something I think, and the full version if that is an option. Also I suck at vicky, so if you see any blatant terribleness there that's why.

Year 1087 Castille Elective succession in place Papal investiture in place Leon diplo annexed with assassination plots on only son and excommunication war on current ruler Navarra annexed by pressing claims on Viscayan count Own half of the de jure Kingdom of Aragon Kingdom of Leon and Kingdom of Navarra titles destroyed, being incorporated into the Kingdom of Castille I am the only elector in the entire Kingdom Money flying out the churches' ass because I'm hardneck as fuck when I fight infidels Helping Denmark take Finland Ruler is 17 years old Everybody loves him

[QUOTE=Kondor58;38819156]Year 1087 Castille Elective succession in place Papal investiture in place Leon diplo annexed with assassination plots on only son and excommunication war on current ruler Navarra annexed by pressing claims on Viscayan count Own half of the de jure Kingdom of Aragon Kingdom of Leon and Kingdom of Navarra titles destroyed, being incorporated into the Kingdom of Castille I am the only elector in the entire Kingdom Money flying out the churches' ass because I'm hardneck as fuck when I fight infidels Helping Denmark take Finland Ruler is 17 years old Everybody loves him[/QUOTE] then he dies within two weeks of spontaneous pneumonia

Or in battle fighting rebels

[QUOTE=lifehole;38819500]then he dies within two weeks of spontaneous pneumonia[/QUOTE]And his imbecile son ascends to the throne

[QUOTE=kamikaze470;38819513]And his imbecile son ascends to the throne[/QUOTE] Elective and I'm the only elector

[IMG]http://puu.sh/1AA7v[/IMG] wat this mod cracks me up man

So my kingdom just imploded. I was King of Ireland, Scotland, Wales, and controlled Lancaster, Northumberland, and Cornwall. I was preparing to invade York, which had become separate from England some time during the reign of the Muslim King, and I had fabricated claims on York itself and another province. My nine-thousand strong retinue was poised to strike when the King of England called me into war against the King of Jerusalem (Which was comprised entirely of Kent for some reason). I sent my retinue to do the fighting while I formalized relations with the Duke of Lancaster, who could provide me with up to 11,000 men. Then my King got depressed and died two days later. I had no sons, so my kin-slaying, homosexual uncle took the throne. After two years of sporadic fighting in Ireland, he was assassinated by the Duke of Lancaster, my uncle. He, in turn, was killed by a plague three months later, and the realm passed to his retarded daughter. All of Ireland, Wales, and Northern Scotland rose against me at once. I called in the English, who accepted. But, whenever England goes to war, they never call their vassals, so they only sent three hundred bowmen who routed after ten seconds. Pretty sure it's just a fucking annoying bug, not sure. At this point, I've subdued Wales, thanks mainly to my retinue and a bunch of mercenaries. But, while I was doing that, all of Scotland but Gowrie rose against me. Together, they have some thirty thousand men against my fifteen thousand, plus a few thousand mercenaries hastily hired and massing in Wales. I'm excommunicated because the cunt Emperor of Byzantium has a huge piety and a hate-boner for my dynasty, and the French, my only allies after England one again fell to Muslims, have been embroiled in almost a hundred years of constant civil war leaving the realm useless. I'm betrothed to the King of Rus, but the Golden Horde just arrived and put him into a head-long flight. I guess the British Empire won't be happening this time around.

This is my near to medium-term plan for fixing up Europe's borders to look pretty. What do you think? [t]http://filesmelt.com/dl/plan_for_europe.jpg[/t]

Just Simulated a Game from CK2 (1066) -> Vicky 2 (1936) . Part One: The End of the Middle Ages [IMG_thumb]http://i47.tinypic.com/w71as.jpg[/img_thumb] Biggest Winner of CK2: Has to go to Doge of Genoa or as he is known by 1453 ‘Doge of the Serene Republic of Italy’ which hold all of Italy, North Africa and even a major part of Turkey; thus setting the standard for states for the next 500 years. The Byzantine Empire award for Biggest Loser of CK2: No surprise here as the Byzantine Empire is reduced to a shell of its former shell. After losing several Jihads to the Egyptians it lost all its territories bar the Crimea (Christians retook Greece and Balkans) and became a puppet manipulated by its more powerful neighbour: the Orthodox Golden Horde. Honorable mentions: Duke of Flanders: After winning the crusade for Greece he was granted that kingdom, which him and his family held for the next 200 years (eventually they lost Flanders but still); King of Jerusalem: Became Holy Roman Emperor, making for a hilarious EU3/Vic2 situation where Jerusalem/Israel is the major state in Germany Edit: Well what a difference 400 years makes (again) Part 2: End of the Renaissance [img_thumb]http://i46.tinypic.com/doo09c.jpg[/img_thumb] Biggest Winner of EU3: Duke of Berry managed to completely annihilate his French overlords and restrict them to one lousy province in Normandy: this new French ruled Kingdom was named the Kingdom of Astakhan Biggest Losers of EU3: France (Obviously); the Golden Horde, but that is literally unavoidable. Other Losers include; Italy (Losing land to the Pope and Dissidents in Turkey and Africa), Jerusalem loding the Emperors seat to Poland and Bohemia (who grew in power) and Scotland (by the end GB) gaining then losing the whole of Southern England as the power of the Southern Kingdom of Asturias grows. Honourable Mentions / Strange events: The Byzantine Empire on the resurgence retaking vast swathes of land it lost hundred years prior and gaining superiority in the region; Morocco gaining the upper hand in Africa and North America; Sweden relocating its capital to North America after losing out heavily to Norway, Anhalt losing it lands in Europe then reviving using its massive colonies of Brazil and Argentina to the major power in South America. The world is a very different place: Part 3: Fascism, Fascism everywhere [IMG_thumb]http://i50.tinypic.com/2ry58ap.jpg[/IMG_thumb] Biggest Winner of Vic2: Italy, the jewel of this game, regained and maintained its vast empire, even winning wars against Israel and Astrakhan and gaining land from both. Biggest Losers of Vic2: GB/Scotland got completely annihilated by the Southern Asturian State and Irish King Honorable Mentions: The World is now clearly in two camps: Democracies who the main players are the Italian, Asturian, Astrakhan and Norwegian coalition against the Fascist Dictatorships led by Anhalt and its vast Southern American Empire whos lackies include the Israeli Empire as well as the Greek, Byzantine, Catalonian and Bohemian states .

Been playing Victoria 2 as a benevolent Belgium. I have control of Liberia and Angola and everything east of it. I've been doing everything to improve these savages lives. Also, the Shogun somehow won the Boshin war and modernized...Ironic as fuck.

I found it strange they had a dlc for Russian portraits. I didn't know Russians looked that different.

Russia was missing beards. [editline]13th December 2012[/editline] And it wasn't until late game, where Russia turns into a bigger state, that it really became the Russian people. the Russian people at the start of the game were like, 3rd generation swedens.