Total War Megathread V.2: "All of Christendom Will be Awed by this Megathread!" - Games

[QUOTE=piggycan99;35426980]Is medival total war 2 any good? someone traded me medival 2 total war, an total war kingdoms. I havnet installed them yet though[/QUOTE] It's a good classic. It's the last of the "older" total war games. Vanilla game is fun and the expansions are good too. (British campaign is the best)

[QUOTE=piggycan99;35426980]Is medival total war 2 any good? someone traded me medival 2 total war, an total war kingdoms. I havnet installed them yet though[/QUOTE] It's probably my favorite Total War. It just has so much more variety (especially with mods) than any of the new ones.

It's the last one with actual Total Conversion mods. It's also the only one with a mod that allows you to play out all of those video-game fantasies you had when watching the battle at Helms Deep and Minas Tirith during the trilogy. Too bad that it doesn't utilize multi-core CPU's, so performance with more than 4k troops is painful. [editline]5th April 2012[/editline] Couldn't help but notice that Empire is 32-bit. Now, i'm currently installing Shogun 2, so i can't check. Is it 64-bit? If not, WHY THE FUCK WON'T ANY DEVELOPERS FULLY UTILIZE IT IN THIS DAY AND AGE!? pure 32-but CPU's were all discontinued in 2006 and Shogun 2 wouldn't run on that hardware anyhow... Neither would Empire.

M2TW, while good, has some serious issues that prevent it from being a true classic in my book. The fucking pope ranks pretty high up as my number reason for not replaying it as much as I should. That and it has some crazy bad balance issues, heavy cavalry rapes literally everything for instance. But, the Kingdoms expansion is just unrivaled in the amount of content that it adds to the game and contains some truly fantastic stuff.(the Americas campaign... which could've been done a bit better but it's fun enough!) All of the issues are basically fixed with mods, however. Stainless Steel, Expanded Americas, Third Age Total War, and Broken Crescent... there's even an ancient feudal Japan mod in the works. It's definitely the best Total War in terms of community and content, I'll give it that. For gameplay I'd have to give props to Rome, it just did everything better I felt.

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;35413995]Realm divide as the Satsuma. July 1st 1870. Independent. The Japanese revolution has begun.[/QUOTE] Satsuma is the best for the independent realm divide if you conquer Kyushu completely. you can just turtle out all the clans while they wipe eachother out at the same time also i uninstalled shogun 2 because i think it was making my computer bluescreen somehow and also i got bored of FOTS now that i've reached max lvl traditional/modern in multiplayer got back 33 gigs to my harddrive :v: I'm reinstalling Rome now yeaaa buddy

[QUOTE=The_Marine;35433709]M2TW, while good, has some serious issues that prevent it from being a true classic in my book. The fucking pope ranks pretty high up as my number reason for not replaying it as much as I should. That and it has some crazy bad balance issues, heavy cavalry rapes literally everything for instance. But, the Kingdoms expansion is just unrivaled in the amount of content that it adds to the game and contains some truly fantastic stuff.(the Americas campaign... which could've been done a bit better but it's fun enough!) All of the issues are basically fixed with mods, however. Stainless Steel, Expanded Americas, Third Age Total War, and Broken Crescent... there's even an ancient feudal Japan mod in the works. It's definitely the best Total War in terms of community and content, I'll give it that. For gameplay I'd have to give props to Rome, it just did everything better I felt.[/QUOTE] The Pope mechanic was so crippling and pointless, even when the Pope is jacking off to you, you still get told to not attack factions for like 10 turns because you give them too much of a beating. Suddenly they build a whole freaking stack. And fuck Poland. They send like 4 units of Polish nobles to siege castles every 2 turns. You can't touch them because they are faster than all Heavy Cavalry, they are insanely accurate with their javelins and they fight like tier 2 Heavy Cavalry in melee, so more often than not I'd lose half my Teutonic knights in battles with them.

I played a match as Tosa, I got slapped by Iyo in 10 turns, how the fuck did that happen?

[QUOTE=gamerman345;35433878]The Pope mechanic was is so crippling and pointless, even when the Pope is jacking off to you, you still get told to not attack factions for like 10 turns because you give them too much of a beating. Suddenly they build a whole freaking stack. And fuck Poland. They send like 4 units of Polish nobles to siege castles every 2 turns. You can't touch them because they faster than all Heavy Cavalry, they are insanely accurate with their javelins and they fight like tier 2 Heavy Cavalry in melee, so more often than not I'd lose half my Teutonic knights in battles with them.[/QUOTE] I was fine with the Pope mechanic. Just ambush the poor bastards with ballistas and His Holiness can't do shit.

[QUOTE=sgman91;35427509]It's probably my favorite Total War. It just has so much more variety (especially with mods) than any of the new ones.[/QUOTE] I really don't like it. In fact, I would say it's my least favorite. I think it's because I feel like my units aren't really fighting as much as running together and crunching the numbers until one of them routed, probably because there was very little gunpowder to marvel at and it didn't have the awesome looking Roman Cohorts. Also I'm terrible at it :v: Also the Pope is always going around putting his godly dick in my English affairs with France.

Play a Muslim nation or Orthodox. Really is more fun when people call a crusade upon you.

[QUOTE=theseltsamone;35434961]I really don't like it. In fact, I would say it's my least favorite. I think it's because I feel like my units aren't really fighting as much as running together and crunching the numbers until one of them routed, probably because there was very little gunpowder to marvel at and it didn't have the awesome looking Roman Cohorts. Also I'm terrible at it :v: Also the Pope is always going around putting his godly dick in my English affairs with France.[/QUOTE] I didn't really get into Total War until after Rome. So while I have played Rome I probably didn't get the full enjoyment out of it. I would LOVE to get a Rome 2, the whole play style of that era is pretty awsome.

Can anyone give me TL:DR of the conflict in Fall of the Samurai? I watched the intro video but its confusing me. It says that "Imperial power must be restored!" I thought it was basically the Emporer deciding to modernize and the shogun gets pissed off because he can't command samurai armies anymore.

[QUOTE=Jmir 54;35436152]Can anyone give me TL:DR of the conflict in Fall of the Samurai? I watched the intro video but its confusing me. It says that "Imperial power must be restored!" I thought it was basically the Emporer deciding to modernize and the shogun gets pissed off because he can't command samurai armies anymore.[/QUOTE] The Shogun is in power, not the Emperor, he's more of a puppet. The current Shogunate was being too open to outsiders and thus began a movement against that - people wanted Japan to be isolationist again, and backed the Emperor/Imperial as the way to do that. so basically, overthrow the outsider-friendly Shogun and have the Emperor take over and restore isolationism. [editline]4th April 2012[/editline] anyway. I have a question. If I have the choice between only fall of the samurai and the original shogun 2, which would you guys recommend? I'm hearing good things about FotS and have played the vanilla Shogun 2 before (which I enjoyed a lot.)

[QUOTE=Xed;35437080]anyway. I have a question. If I have the choice between only fall of the samurai and the original shogun 2, which would you guys recommend? I'm hearing good things about FotS and have played the vanilla Shogun 2 before (which I enjoyed a lot.)[/QUOTE] Choose vanilla Shogun 2 if you like complicated, in-depth battles where tactics are more important than army strength Choose FotS if you like machinegunning crowds of sword-wielding luddites (and explosions) [sp]tactics are still important, of course, but the real strategy happens largely on the campaign map.[/sp] also, details: Only the Shogunate can get French troops and ships, and only the Imperials can get British troops and ships. Both can get American assistance. Imperial troops are typically more modern.

Tough choice, I like both. Any other opinions? FotS vs vanilla Shogun 2? (I've played vanilla, enjoyed it.)

I'm still hyped about the fact that you could probably import the campaign map from Empire and use the physics and basic units from FOTS to create a fucking [b]awesome[/b] WWI mod. [editline]5th April 2012[/editline] Also, just a quick something I realized, but wouldn't modding tanks into the game be a lot easier than people are making it out to be? Tread animations alone could replace the spoke animation for moving artillery, and everything that it needs already sort of exists, right?

[QUOTE=piggycan99;35426980]Is medival total war 2 any good? someone traded me medival 2 total war, an total war kingdoms. I havnet installed them yet though[/QUOTE] It's a really really good game and it's probably my favourite out of the entire series so far.

Play Third Age: Total War RIGHT NOW!!!

I'm wondering. Do any of the games run on old hardware? I only have a laptop with 2.1 GHz , 2 Gb and an Intel 4 integrated graphics card to my access right now.

Rome runs fine on that.

[QUOTE=Killuah;35440042]I'm wondering. Do any of the games run on old hardware? I only have a laptop with 2.1 GHz , 2 Gb and an Intel 4 integrated graphics card to my access right now.[/QUOTE] Medieval 2 might be fine as well.

So i noticed that Spectating battles in Co-op campaign is present in Shogun 2. Is it also present in N:TW? It seems to be gone in E:TW.

Oh what the [i]hell.[/i] I was 60 minutes into the Siege of Osaka Castle historical battle, and then the game crashed just as I made progress over my previous attempt. And I swear, the Levies in that mission are more accurate than Marines. I watched 90 Kihetai die to Levies in 5 seconds when I tried to outgun them. Is there a way to just unlock all the historical battles? I really do not want to waste my time playing that mission again.

[QUOTE=sgman91;35436103]I didn't really get into Total War until after Rome. So while I have played Rome I probably didn't get the full enjoyment out of it. I would LOVE to get a Rome 2, the whole play style of that era is pretty awsome.[/QUOTE] too be honest I didnt enjoy the series until Rome, but I never played Rome properly either, I just enjoyed creating huge battles and fighting them out.

[QUOTE=Bomimo;35439225]Play Third Age: Total War RIGHT NOW!!![/QUOTE] For which version of Kingdoms does it work with? Mods really do break your game unless you install the correct patch.

Just got Shogun2 during the sale a few weeks ago...I've only played ETW before this. The lack of excessive amount of provinces is annoying. (Then again, I've probably played EU3 way too much), and game also seems to have significant balance problems with both multiplayer and DLCs. I'm baffled by the RPG/DLC based multiplayer... This is the greatest example of a "strategy" game so completely destroy the fundamentals of [u]competitive[/u] RTS play (eg, none of Starcraft, AoE, C&C, CoH, SupCom, MOW, etc, had serious game mechanic based advantages you could gain buy spending more money and/or time grinding).

[QUOTE=DuncanFrost;35439119]It's a really really good game and it's probably my favourite out of the entire series so far.[/QUOTE] Yeah well the only total war ive played is rome total war, an barbarion invasion i think is what the expansion is i havent played any other ones

[QUOTE=gamerman345;35447086]Oh what the [i]hell.[/i] I was 60 minutes into the Siege of Osaka Castle historical battle, and then the game crashed just as I made progress over my previous attempt. And I swear, the Levies in that mission are more accurate than Marines. I watched 90 Kihetai die to Levies in 5 seconds when I tried to outgun them. Is there a way to just unlock all the historical battles? I really do not want to waste my time playing that mission again.[/QUOTE] I am not sure but i felt there was a bonus to being on higher ground in ntw. Maybe it carried over to shogun 2. In theory it shouldn't matter that much so i found it kinda annoying. Fighting in a forest also seems to level out skills to the point it's better to send cheap units to fight in the woods. But that's what i thought it felt like.

[QUOTE=Rainboo;35451105]For which version of Kingdoms does it work with? Mods really do break your game unless you install the correct patch.[/QUOTE] I'm going to tell you this while i still remember, for all of our sakes: If you live in the US, get the US patch 1.2 or highest available. If you live in europe and has an english install, get UK/english patch 1.2 or highest available. If you live in Europe and has another language install, get International Patch 1.2 or highest available. This was a month ago and my memory may already be fucking with us all. Their patches for this game is pretty messy since they release like 5 localizations and are really vague about them.

[QUOTE=Angus725;35451590] I'm baffled by the RPG/DLC based multiplayer... This is the greatest example of a "strategy" game so completely destroy the fundamentals of [u]competitive[/u] RTS play (eg, none of Starcraft, AoE, C&C, CoH, SupCom, MOW, etc, had serious game mechanic based advantages you could gain buy spending more money and/or time grinding).[/QUOTE] If you're talking about FotS or RotS being an advantage, that's not at all true. I've played against vanilla and RotS with a FotS army and lost, and I've beaten a vanilla with the same army. It's all about how you prefer to play. If you're talking about veteran units getting stronger as you play, they also get much MUCH more expensive. My first online game was against a guy with nothing but veteran units and I decimated him. [editline]6th April 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=sami-pso;35452604]I am not sure but i felt there was a bonus to being on higher ground in ntw. Maybe it carried over to shogun 2. In theory it shouldn't matter that much so i found it kinda annoying. Fighting in a forest also seems to level out skills to the point it's better to send cheap units to fight in the woods. But that's what i thought it felt like.[/QUOTE] I think that the higher ground advantage is only for a charge bonus. Woods are definitely useful for low morale units, since bullets are physical objects and most of them will hit trees rather than levy.